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Power Outage At CLE / Bad Day For CO Hubs  
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

While looking at the FAA's ATCSC website regarding the impact the UA Emergency at EWR was having, I noticed the "orange ball" for CLE...

"Due to POWER OUTAGE, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, Cleveland, OH (CLE). To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check 'Delays by Destination'."

According to the local Fox affiliate, CO has "suspended operations" at CLE until 6 PM today ( http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-powerou...geshutsdownhopkins,0,1692919.story ) -- though CO's FLIFO indicates that several flights I randomly selected throughtout the morning show that they arrived or departed ontime or close to it.

If the media is accurate, that makes for 2 of 3 domestic CO hubs either out of service or with reduced capacity -- I guess it's a good thing that this is a weekend.

Anyone know what's up?

Lincoln

[Edited 2010-01-10 09:13:53 by srbmod]


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User currently offlineToltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, CO plans to get two flights out, a LAS and an IAH. Probably the only two mainline aircraft in the hub.

Amazing that the airport didn't have backup generators to keep the operation running....


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4876 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 1):
Amazing that the airport didn't have backup generators to keep the operation running....

According to the article linked in the thread starter, they are operating on backup generators:

Quote:
Hopkins spokesperson Jackie Mayo tells Fox 8 News, "Shortly after 6 a.m. a blue flash was seen coming from the north side of the airport property. The power went out to the entire airport. They are currently operating on backup generators. Emergency lighting is being used."



User currently offlineToltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

Okay, but the backup generators are only enough to provide emergency lighting. CO had to scrub the day's operation because there isn't enough power to run the operation in any way. There obviously isn't enough backup capacity at the airport.

User currently offlineNYC2theworld From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 665 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4667 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 3):
Okay, but the backup generators are only enough to provide emergency lighting. CO had to scrub the day's operation because there isn't enough power to run the operation in any way. There obviously isn't enough backup capacity at the airport.

Most airports don't have emergency power to run operations. When the NE had its major blackout in 2003 there was no power for jetways, computers, luggage handling systems etc so passengers could not board flights at EWR. I was supervising a bunch of kids on a SAS flight that evening that left 6 hours late due to the fact they had no gate power.



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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

And I was at DTW. We couldn't move jetways, had to tow planes off gates and get everything out before dark, but we got planes out.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8308 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4430 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 3):
There obviously isn't enough backup capacity at the airport.

Do you know how many acres of generators would be required to run an entire airport at even close to regular capacity? Flight cancellations in this case weren't a result of inadequacies in the backup system.

That having been said, power is back and ops should be getting back to normal as we move into the evening.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3919 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 1):
Probably the only two mainline aircraft in the hub.

Cut out the snide remarks, Toltommy. Your loathing of CLE is well-known. But we don't need that crap.

Apparently, according to the Plain Dealer, a transformer surged somewhere around 5 or 5:30am, and 45 minutes later, the airport power went out. The power slowly started to come back on about 1430, and was fully restored around 5pm.

I got to work about 3:30, and didn't even realize what was going on, until I got to a computer to pull up my assignment for the 4pm bank, and saw all flights were canceled. By the 7pm bank, everything was pretty much back to normal.


User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

I read elsewhere that the D Concourse was closed for parts of today due to flooding in the tunnel between C and D from a water main break. Any truth to this, and if so, what sort of damage resulted?

User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 698 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

The snow and cold here probably did it. It got down to +6 Fahrenheit last night, with about a foot of snow on the ground.

The generators are probably just enough to operate the radars, radios, ventilation system (without any climate control), and emergency lighting. If you've seen the massive solar cell farm on the south side of DEN, keep in mind that all those solar panels provide enough power for 50% of the automated tram linking the main terminal with the concourses.

I hadn't heard about the water main break, but I wouldn't be surprised. As I stated, it is bitter cold here on the shores of Lake Erie.


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2769 times:



Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 4):
Most airports don't have emergency power to run operations.

I once didn't have power for my gate and the whole area I was in at MCO.



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