AZ 2009 06.30
AZ 2013 07.00
AZ 2017 07.15
AZ 2015 07.30
AZ 2019 07.40
AZ 2011 07.50
AZ 2021 08.00
AZ 2023 08.15
AZ 2025 08.30
AZ 2111 08.45
AZ 2029 09.00
AZ 2033 09.30
AZ 2039 10.00
AZ 2035 10.30
AZ 2045 11.00
AZ 2037 12.00
AZ 2055 13.00
AZ 2049 14.00
AZ 2069 14.30
AZ 2071 15.00
AZ 2083 15.30
AZ 2059 16.00
AZ 2087 16.20
AZ 2091 16.40
AZ 2061 17.00
AZ 2063 17.30
AZ 2097 18.00
AZ 2099 18.15
AZ 2067 18.30
AZ 2107 18.45
AZ 2109 19.00
AZ 2073 19.20
AZ 2113 19.40
AZ 2075 20.00
AZ 2121 20.30
AZ 2125 21.00
AZ 2077 21.30
[see earlier post, LIPZ was faster listing the flight times]
All flown by A320-series aircraft, except an occasional Alitalia Express E70.
LIN is heavily slot-constrained and it's extremely difficult for new entrants to fly to/from LIN. Before the AZ/AP-merger, AZ and AP were both offering multple frequencies and there was nice competition here.
It is completely not understanble how any anti-trust agency (Italian or European) could have approved the merger without forcing AZ/AP to give up at least 20 daily LIN slot pairs. (they also have high frequencies on other domestic routes). It still upsets me.
Last December, the high-speed track between Milan and Rome has been finished. The last section to be completed was Bologna-Florence, which was an expensive trajectory as it's almost completely composed of tunnels through the mountains. Milan-Rome now takes 2:45, and it will be interesting to see how this affects air service.
IIRC, LIN-FCO was served over 50x daily before the AZ-AP merger.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4011 times:
Could anyone please describe what "kind" of airport MXP is; what people use it, what market does it attract, etc?
I have flown into MXP a few times, both to visit Milan as well as to connect onto other flights, and both T1 and T2. I used MXP as connections from the Netherlands to LIN were always very expensive and limited (it's a bit better now, with 3x daily on KL/XM/AZ (each 1x daily)), but I always found to MXP to be inconveniently far away from the city. So it was always the best option for Milan anyhow.
But how is it regarded in Italy? Is it a second-choice airport from Milan? Is it the airport of choice from people in Lombardy? Is it used much by people from southern Switzerland? Does it serve as an alternative for TRN, for people in TRN? And of course, for many destinations, it's the sole choice from Milan (like all long-haul flights).
In other words, what kind of people and from where, do you find on flights from MXP?
And, a bit more off-topic, what's the plan for LIN? Currently there is the strange rule that many international destinations can only be served 1x daily by any carrier. (And here is a workaround that many AZ-flights carry the XM-code (Alitalia express), codeshared with AZ, but operating Airbus 319s; quite scandalous actually IMHO). How will this develop? And when LIN-FCO will reduce in the coming years by the advance of the train, will these slots become available for other flights, or will they be lost to never return?)
Sflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3622 times:
Quoting Joost (Reply 9): And, a bit more off-topic, what's the plan for LIN? Currently there is the strange rule that many international destinations can only be served 1x daily by any carrier. (And here is a workaround that many AZ-flights carry the XM-code (Alitalia express), codeshared with AZ, but operating Airbus 319s; quite scandalous actually IMHO). How will this develop? And when LIN-FCO will reduce in the coming years by the advance of the train, will these slots become available for other flights, or will they be lost to never return?)
It's Italy, do I need to say any more. Don't try to figure anything out. Just go with the flow.
What rule that international destions can be served 1x daily by any carrier? IB flies 2x MAD, BA 3x LHR, LH 5x LHR
Quoting Trucker (Reply 10): So now I'm curious. Why so many flights with smaller airplanes rather than fewer flights with bigger airplanes? In Japan they use 744s on domestic flights.
The same reason USA carriers fly LGA-RDU 8x on regionals. Sit on slots to avoid the competition from taking them. Ethically not right, business wise smart move.
WAC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
MXP is the main international and intercontinental airport of Milan and Northern Italy. From sometime this year the train services will only take 30 minutes from the centre of milan to MXP making it just as easy to access MXP as LIN.
The problem is political as there is no coherent strategy of airport infrastructure at a regional nor national level. Initially LIN was supposed to close but then they decided on a city airport and then just short haul flights. MXP is Milan's airport and that of Northern Italy, and Southern Switzerland, LIN is city airport with access to European cities and BGY is FR hub and one or two other low low cost airline
Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 1): Maybe they finally got their Italian certificate which would cause a move to a new code soon to be publish. If not, this might be the beginning of bye, bye LHI. I hope not!
Any chance to see these flights from LIN instead from MXP or could be the answer the post of Sflaflight?
El dia que los gilipollas vuelen, no podremos ver la luz del sol!