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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7961 posts, RR: 12
Posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

... an ignition key to start the engines of a plane? Or do they just press a push button?
And if they use those keys: do they take them home after a working day?

NoUFO - always curious


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User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

No they do not need a key on most aircraft, smaller ones (4 seater singles) require one, however larger then that you only need it to get in the door!
Iain


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7961 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

THX. And how do they get in the door? Aren't doors on larger planes locked?

NoUFO



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User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

NoUFO I honestly do not know. I highly doutb they look them unless they are in overnight parking, so I guess the key is kept in a secret place in the plane. And when the plane is locked it goes in a safe at the airport!
Iain


User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

who is going to steal a 747? first you have to get to it. then climb up to the door the figurte out how to open the door then open the cokpit door then fill it with gas the start it then taxi it then take off then get out of US airspace all under the watchful eye of thje control tower and airport security.

Don't mean to sound rude here!!


User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

Plus you need to know how to start the APU establish electrics and bleed air to start engines. and know how to add fuel to the engiens. Unless the pilot was trying to steal the plane i doubt most criminals know these kinds of things.

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Maybe not steal the entire aircraft (which is you know what you are doing probably is not too difficult), but it would be very easy to steal things like pilot headsets, aircraft documents, life vests, personal DVD players (on AA) and other valuables!
Iain


User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3477 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

No you do not need a key to start any of the commercial airliners I have flown. You do need quite a bit of knowledge in order to get the start procedures done -- even the minimum required to accidentally start an engine.

Sorry Iain, most "valuables" are removed from AA overnight aircraft prior to its overnight stay. If not removed it is probably because it (the "valuable") will not work without being connected to the aircraft (i.e. the DVDs).  Big grin



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User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1089 times:

AAR - Thanks for filling us in. But do the doors actually have looks on them? I know the corpjets I have seen do, so I guess the airliners are along the same lines.
Thanks,
Iain


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4685 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

No commercial airliner that I am aware of has any kind of
a "lock" on any of the exterior doors.

All commercial jets do however have a lock on the cockpit door,crewmembers are issued keys,there is also a remote unlocking device
in the cockpit to allow f/a's to enter with both pilots seated.



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User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

There are no locks on the outside of commercial aircraft. The aircraft has to be accesible from the outside at all times, whether on the ground parked overnight, or in the air.

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