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Air France A320 In SXM (St Maarten)  
User currently offlineHywel From Peru, joined Apr 2008, 771 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16662 times:

Anyone know why Air France sent an A320 all the way to SXM as shown in this photo? What was the routing, surely it couldn't go non-stop from CDG?


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User currently offlineEXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16673 times:

They don't. AF operates routes between the french speaking islands of the carribean, linking them to MIA (I think).


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8869 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16675 times:

Air France has an A320 doing Caribbean routes. Destinations include Cayenne, Fort-de-France, Miami, and Pointe-à-Pitre.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32216 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16647 times:

Air France has two A320s based in the Caribbean. They link the French territories in the region to each other, Haiti and Miami.


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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16667 times:

Do a topic search...a plethora of threads on this topic exist with all the details It does a milk run from MIA.


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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6266 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 16539 times:

Are the pilots French, American, or other?

User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1038 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16253 times:

Ia Orana all !

Pilots are french, from main line AF Paris and have temporary base in the French West Indies
The Cabin crew are mainly from Martinique and Guadeloupe and are based there. There are temporary bases as well for Paris based cabin crew if a locally based cabin attendant is pregnant or long time sickness.

Happy Flying,

AF Cabin Crew



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6266 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16243 times:



Quoting AF Cabin Crew (Reply 6):
Pilots are french

So they're just traditional AF A320 pilots who went up in MIA for a bit of time? Would that bid very high or very low?


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16119 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2):
Air France has an A320 doing Caribbean routes. Destinations include Cayenne, Fort-de-France, Miami, and Pointe-à-Pitre.

In addition to the French points mentioned, they also stop in Port au Prince, Haiti, with 5th freedom rights. AF has been operating those routes for decades. Before the A320 they used the 727 and 737. I think they may also have used the Caravelle on those routes at one time.

AF 733 and 722 at MIA.


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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1437 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16095 times:

I think this is one topic that comes up once a month or so....


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4765 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16093 times:

Air France has a very long history of flying locally around the Caribbean.

Using the A320 as you note:


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To the days of the B727 and B737:


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Even back to the days of the belle Caravelle:


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But it started with this beauty!


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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16024 times:

Is this seasonal or an odd arrival time at SXM? I spent a week in SXM staying at Maho beach and never saw an AF A320, just the daily A340. Not complaining about the 340, just wondering about the 320. Of course I wasn't at the beach the whole time.........


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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4202 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15966 times:



Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 9):
I think this is one topic that comes up once a month or so....

Not quite sure if it is that often, but it is up there with DL DC-9 retirement thread counts as far as most repeated topics!

I guess people can't wrap their heads around seeing an AF narrowbody flying around MIA or SXM, etc.!



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32216 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15835 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
In addition to the French points mentioned, they also stop in Port au Prince, Haiti, with 5th freedom rights. AF has been operating those routes for decades. Before the A320 they used the 727 and 737. I think they may also have used the Caravelle on those routes at one time.

Someone correct me, but I think the route has been operated by Air France since the early 1960s. Air France is one of the longest serving airlines at Miami, although they did not add Miami-Paris until around 1988-89.



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7348 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 15641 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 7):
So they're just traditional AF A320 pilots who went up in MIA for a bit of time? Would that bid very high or very low?

MIA is not the base. I believe the base Guadeloupe.

Edit - looking at the schedules - it looks like thay have at least two aircraft based at PTP / TFFR. There are three RON per week in MIA, the other RON are at PTP.

[Edited 2010-01-11 15:39:49]

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13377 times:

Did AF also use 707s from JFK to Guadeloupe, in the early '70s?

User currently offlineJolau1701 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13327 times:

I thought I saw an AF A320 out in MIA Saturday morning! :p

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1340 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13138 times:

Yeah this topic does come up every so often... it's nothing like it used to be. A.Netter's use to go nuts some years back when they would see IB 319's, MP 738's then 320's along with the AF 320 at MIA. They were all like what? when? why? is this MIA or MAD? lol


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12883 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):

Someone correct me, but I think the route has been operated by Air France since the early 1960s

That DC-4 pic (though it is at SJU, they also flew to MIA) is from 1968.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Air France is one of the longest serving airlines at Miami, although they did not add Miami-Paris until around 1988-89.

That is so crazy.



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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12851 times:

And here I thought you were crazy for saying that MP ever flew 737-800s.

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Although to be fair it is technically Miami Air operating for MP.



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User currently offlinePlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12320 times:

This is not any different then CO basing 737's at GUM. It's all for local island flights.


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User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12304 times:

Just saw the A320 at MIA tonight. That caught me off guard.

User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12074 times:



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 10):

There was also the 737-200 AF leased from Western Airlines:

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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Switzerland, joined Dec 2009, 543 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11389 times:

Interesting to know how many Airlines has AC's in duty in other Countries?

Only remember that British Airways has (or had) B727/737 in South Africa.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32216 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11310 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 14):
Edit - looking at the schedules - it looks like thay have at least two aircraft based at PTP / TFFR. There are three RON per week in MIA, the other RON are at PTP.

There is currently an A320 RON in MIA every night except Tuesday.



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25 Doona : Well, the French territories in the Caribbean isn't another country. It's basically domestic and international flights, as usual, but from another pa
26 CheetahC : Yes, they are still flying.
27 ARFFdude : I'm curious about this as well. Seems like an awesome gig, but then again I'm a young guy with no family.
28 Ajd1992 : Pan Am also had B727s in West Germany for a long time to feed their long haul routes from Frankfurt, Heathrow etc. They were partly the reason PA103 h
29 RFields5421 : The Pan Am aircraft in West Germany were there because an airline from West Germany was not allowed to fly to Berlin. This was part of the division o
30 LTU932 : IB did operate direct flights to Central America on and off, but they also had the MIA hub with the A319s. The MIA hub was given up some time after T
31 Viscount724 : Pan Am also operated numerous change-of-gauge services from FRA to other countries in Euroipe using 727s and 737s, apart from the services to Berlin.
32 Stackhouse007 : Learn something everyday.. Thats pretty cool to see large european airlines operating smaller birds in the islands.
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