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Taag Angola Launches New Website  
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

For those interested, TAAG has finally launched a website with the capability to do online bookings, check flight status, view aircraft seat maps, and various other things. The layout is fairly simple but it looks nice. Great to see DT taking more steps in the right direction. I could easily see them being among Africa's best in 5 years or so. They also plan to add an online check-in feature.

http://www.taag.com/

Also, the new terminal at LAD has opened which will hopefully help operations run smoother until the new airport is completed.

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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6845 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Thread starter):
Great to see DT taking more steps in the right direction.

Indeed, much better than the previous site. The Brazilian domain of the site does not seem to be synced at this point: http://www.taag.com.br/


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6831 times:
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Very good news ! Thaks for sharing.
Finally we can access TAAG schedule easier !



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6803 times:

Aweseome! Love their route map and listed schedules. They even have Havana which operates once per month.

Look what I found:



User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6787 times:

Speaking of seat maps, they have that 77E in an very premium configuration. 14F/51J/190Y...Wow. Anyone have any insight as to whether or not they can actually command the yields to support that? I know that Luanda has been a hot choice lately because of the burgeoning industry and difficulty obtaining slots, but that is pretty impressive.

User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6506 times:



Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 3):
Look what I found:

Wow! That is truly an exotic and rare ad. I'm surprised they made an effort to make such an ad for a once-a-month flight. I suppose it is working though, Y is already full for next Wednesday's LAD-HAV flight. F and J are not so full, unsurprisingly.

Quoting AirStairs (Reply 4):
Speaking of seat maps, they have that 77E in an very premium configuration. 14F/51J/190Y...Wow. Anyone have any insight as to whether or not they can actually command the yields to support that? I know that Luanda has been a hot choice lately because of the burgeoning industry and difficulty obtaining slots, but that is pretty impressive.

I have been wondering this too. You must also realize that DT has no frequent flyer program / agreements as well so for them to fill these seats would be very impressive. I suppose most premium pax are businessmen originating in Angola for the LAD-LIS-LAD flights. GIG probably has more premium pax there since TAAG is the only way to get from GIG to LAD nonstop.

But if anyone has any insight to TAAG loads, I would be very interested!


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6441 times:
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Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 5):
I have been wondering this too. You must also realize that DT has no frequent flyer program / agreements as well so for them to fill these seats would be very impressive. I suppose most premium pax are businessmen originating in Angola for the LAD-LIS-LAD flights. GIG probably has more premium pax there since TAAG is the only way to get from GIG to LAD nonstop.

GIG has a lot of oil traffic as well as construction and government traffic. Good to see that TAAG is using the 772 on all 4x weekly frequencies to Rio.



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6436 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
GIG has a lot of oil traffic as well as construction and government traffic. Good to see that TAAG is using the 772 on all 4x weekly frequencies to Rio.

So is cargo being flown out from GRU?


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6428 times:
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Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 7):
So is cargo being flown out from GRU?

Cargo is being flown from both GIG and GRU. For sure the 743 Combi holds more cargo. But in the other hand, the flight to GIG is 1h40 quicker. It's quite a nice difference.



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User currently offlineAirthanet From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6170 times:

Does anyone have any info on DT mysterious Beijing PEK link? Apparently it flies 3 times a week via DXB with their B772 equipment.


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6155 times:



Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 7):
So is cargo being flown out from GRU?



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 8):
For sure the 743 Combi holds more cargo

Most of the cargo is handled out of GRU because all 3 weekly LAD/GRU flights are operated with the B743 Combi which can carry 7 Freight Containers.

Rgs,


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6123 times:

Quoting Airthanet (Reply 9):
Does anyone have any info on DT mysterious Beijing PEK link? Apparently it flies 3 times a week via DXB with their B772 equipment.

Last I heard a few months ago was it was still operating, and had been upped from 2x to 3x as you mention. But since the flight is marketed almost exclusively to Chinese companies contracting in Angola, its barely spoken of by the airline. HU is also operating the route 3x a week now on an A346 now (initially it was launched on a B763), also through DXB IIRC. Clearly there's plenty of demand for that route.

[Edited 2010-01-23 13:24:46]

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6092 times:



Quoting Airthanet (Reply 9):

Does anyone have any info on DT mysterious Beijing PEK link?

It's not so mysterious; I've seen the DT 777 at DXB while spotting there. I also think they flew LAD-PEK vv nonstop for a while, at least that's what their schedule showed.

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User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

Good...it's solid...clean...and professional...


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User currently offlineAirthanet From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6009 times:

Thanks for the info on DT's PEK flights. According to the DXB website, today's flight DT693 from Beijing will arrive 2 hours late before continuing onto Luanda.

www.dubaiairport.com/DIA/English/Home



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4680 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6001 times:



Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 3):
Look what I found:

That 747 on the ad is actually a -100 or -200 with RR engines, not a -300(Combi) with PW like theirs are. Somebody done some photoshopping?  biggrin 



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User currently offlineSt530 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 5849 times:



Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 3):
Aweseome! Love their route map and listed schedules. They even have Havana which operates once per month.

Look what I found:

Cool ad (one's view of Che aside). Where was it? Odd (at least to me) that's in English too.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 5784 times:



Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 7):
So is cargo being flown out from GRU?



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 8):
Cargo is being flown from both GIG and GRU. For sure the 743 Combi holds more cargo.

TD B772 - Total volume 5,330 cu ft (151 cu m), plus 600 cu ft (17 cu m) bulk cargo.

TD B743 - Total volume 10,422 cu ft (295 cu m) = 14 LD-1 containers, 7 main deck pallets, 5 lower hold pallets + bulk

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 5742 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 17):
TD B772 - Total volume 5,330 cu ft (151 cu m), plus 600 cu ft (17 cu m) bulk cargo.

TD B743 - Total volume 10,422 cu ft (295 cu m) = 14 LD-1 containers, 7 main deck pallets, 5 lower hold pallets + bulk

Rgs,

TAAG option seems to be in favor of cargo in Sao Paulo and passenger comfort at GIG (no way to compare TAAG 772 with their 743 for F/C and even Y). Thanks for the info.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 5714 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 18):
TAAG option seems to be in favor of cargo in Sao Paulo and passenger comfort at GIG

If you need the cargo space you have no option rather than sending the B743 to capture the exisiting cargo market which will dictate fleet allocation especially when you have B743 combi.

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 5706 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
If you need the cargo space you have no option rather than sending the B743 to capture the exisiting cargo market which will dictate fleet allocation especially when you have B743 combi.

As we know, they had 5 frequencies with B743 before they increased to daily to both Rio and Sao Paulo markets. Now they have the same cargo capacity, but offer premium services to passengers. Two markets !
The 743 can provide a better cargo plane, but remember, 772 costs are very little compared to it.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 5698 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
As we know, they had 5 frequencies with B743 before they increased to daily to both Rio and Sao Paulo markets. Now they have the same cargo capacity, but offer premium services to passengers. Two markets !
The 743 can provide a better cargo plane, but remember, 772 costs are very little compared to it.

This shows they improved in seat supply, cargo supply, comfort level (B772 which is far better than the B743), frequency, and network (GIG/GRU). I think overall TD managed to do a good job, although it needs to improve operations (on time performance).

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 5689 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 21):
This shows they improved in seat supply, cargo supply, comfort level (B772 which is far better than the B743), frequency, and network (GIG/GRU). I think overall TD managed to do a good job, although it needs to improve operations (on time performance).

No doubt, agree 100%. They have options for all kinds of customers. Being shorter and with a faster and more comfortable plane, GIG become a better option for passengers, while GRU become an option for Sao Paulo O&D and cargo.



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 5632 times:



Quoting Airthanet (Reply 9):
Does anyone have any info on DT mysterious Beijing PEK link? Apparently it flies 3 times a week via DXB with their B772 equipment.

Yes, this flight is still operating and is open to the general public for booking, although it has to be done either with a travel agency (not online) or by calling TAAG directly. The flight departs LAD on Mon, Wed, and Fri, and departs PEK on Tue, Thu, and Sat. Oddly enough the flight is scheduled for 17:00 both ways, which would suggest that DT is not taking headwinds/tailwinds into account. I seriously doubt the flight times are the same both ways...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
I also think they flew LAD-PEK vv nonstop for a while, at least that's what their schedule showed.

Correct, it operated nonstop until TAAG was able to return to LIS. They then combined DXB and PEK to free up an aircraft for LAD-LIS-LAD.

Quoting Airthanet (Reply 14):
Thanks for the info on DT's PEK flights. According to the DXB website, today's flight DT693 from Beijing will arrive 2 hours late before continuing onto Luanda.

Unsurprising, TAAG flights are almost always delayed except for the LAD-LIS-LAD flights which typically operates on-time. Domestic flights often leave several hours late and regional flights are only slightly better. They have too few aircraft for the routes they operate. Plus, DT's block times are much shorter than they should be (HU's PEK-DXB-LAD is scheduled for 18:50 verses DT's 17:00)


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 5585 times:
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Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 23):
Correct, it operated nonstop until TAAG was able to return to LIS. They then combined DXB and PEK to free up an aircraft for LAD-LIS-LAD.

Now what routes are operated by the B772 ? LIS, DXB/PEK and GIG ?



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25 MHTripple7 : Yup, those are all operated by the 777. The 74Ds fly to GRU, HAV, and JNB.
26 LipeGIG : With 3 frames, it seems comfortable if LIS do not need 2 planes.
27 Post contains links Sandyb123 : Looks like a rip off of Emirates website. Sandyb123
28 LipeGIG : For an airline that never have a website on their home country, seems very good also ! I'm sure there's improvements that could be made in the future
29 AAEXP : Can anyone here direct me to pictures of the 777 F and J cabins? I have seen the 747 cabins and honestly I was not that impressed.
30 Post contains links Vasu : Does this link work? http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...ge=&thumbnails=&engine_version=6.0
31 AAEXP : Absolutely! Thanks so much. What a difference. Where did TAAG get this plane from?
32 LatinPlane : Yeah, a product of the add agency. Only we crazy A.netters will notice such distortions. It was used in Angola. The flight operates once per month, a
33 LipeGIG : Brand new from Boeing , all of them
34 AAEXP : So now they just need to finish the upgrading of the Luanda airport and the trip to Angola may even be pleasant (from GIG at least).
35 LipeGIG : Or from LIS ! But from Brazil right now, for a passenger, no doubt GIG-LAD provides better comfort and a quicker service (less 1h30min of flight) wit
36 Post contains links MHTripple7 : Hi, the upgrades at LAD have been finished. I believe this is the final upgrade before the new airport is opened (whenever that happens). Here is a l
37 LipeGIG : MHTripple7, thanks for post them. Very interesting. You know where i can find more info on the new airport ?
38 Post contains links and images MHTripple7 : This thread has some information but nobody seems to know an actual completion date or the status on construction. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/show
39 LipeGIG : And again thanks for bringing this important development and taking your time for some research. I shall be visiting LAD shortly and i expect to brin
40 Hardiwv : Lipe, TAAG has revised its aircraft deployment and frequencies to Brazil. >> From 29 March 2010 GIG will revert to B743, while GRU will get the newes
41 Hardiwv : Small correction, it seems GIG will be down from 4 to 2 weekly while GRU will be kept 3 weekly. GRU gets upgraded to B772 while GIG downgraded to B74
42 AF086 : Hardi, apparently TAAG just didn't update their GIG schedules. That one is very old and DT keeps updating it but for some unknown reason their update
43 Hardiwv : Could be however TD webpage shows the same schedule as does Amadeus and they did care to change the equipment and timetable for GRU: previously B743
44 AF086 : Naturally since their website uses Amadeus' database. Why they changed the equipment on the GRU schedules and didn't change their GIG one is beyond m
45 hardiwv : Considering they decided to update the equipment it does give me the impression they schedule is also updated. The schedule to DXB-PEK has also been
46 Flying Belgian : Not mysterious at all. As odd as it might seem for many, LAD-PEK attracts a huge volume of traffic. DT isn't the only one on the route. Looooots of C
47 hardiwv : What I find interesting is that apparently TD does not have traffic rights DXB-PEK and this I assume must kill its yields/loads since TD markets LAD-
48 OP3000 : Its 40 miles away from Luanda and as the pictures show quite isolated, so to be convenient they'll have to build a good new road to boot. Interesting
49 hardiwv : Brazil Odebrecht is resposinble for the upgrading of the current airport. The deal between Angola and China regarding the construction of the new air
50 Post contains links Byrdluvs747 : Typically deals with the Chinese usually involve some sort of contreversy. In this case using unskilled chinese workers instead of Angolans in light
51 hardiwv : Probably if the airport does go ahead it will have lots of structural problems...I know lots of building in Africa built by the Chinese, the standard
52 MHTripple7 : I read on another forum that DT plans to convert one of their 743s to a cargo aircraft and completely refurbish the other 743. IMO, they should just r
53 LipeGIG : Hardi, such changes are always on their website and Amadeus. They only uploads always 2x or 3x flights way ahead and later introduce the others. About
54 hardiwv : There are many, the latest is the new Headquarters of the African Union in Addis Ababa. They realised the premium demand in GRU which requires better
55 LipeGIG : Yes, and the departure time out of GRU is a little early than GIG and the flight with B743 too long. For sure the B743 is a cargo plane and seems TAA
56 The777Man : If this is correct, they would need new aircraft to replace the 74Ds and possibly DT is the customer of one of the Unidentified 777 orders ? There ae
57 hardiwv : For the LAD market I can guarantee that SA offers plenty of competition. Many Brazilians fly LAD via JNB. I agree with you. I also think that TD shou
58 LipeGIG : This could solve their problem... a 4th 772 ! I know, Petrobras employees are among them. They were not allowed to fly TAAG (don't know now with the
59 hardiwv : TD has made a partnership with LH and SN Brussels and flights to FRA and BRU all now in full codeshare. This could bring the airline closer to Star w
60 LipeGIG : As i mentioned, i expect them to have a parternship and take advantage on the growing economy of Angola which is expected to grow more than 6% this y
61 hardiwv : Angola has plenty to develop if it wants to become one of the major business destinations in Africa. now JNB, LOS, CAI, NBO, ADD, TUN, and many other
62 OP3000 : I don't think they will do much in terms of an African network, as they are towards the very bottom in reliability for international African carriers
63 LipeGIG : As expected, TAAG schedule is always a mistery. LAD-GIG shows 4x weekly again and LAD-GRU shows 3x. It's also matches what TAAG asked to ANAC and bot
64 hardiwv : Lipe, the schedule I provided above still holds. Note that I mentioned effective 29 March 2010. Rgs,
65 MHTripple7 : TAAG has removed both their GIG and GRU flights from the GDS. What is going on here? However, I just checked the TAAG website which shows LAD-GRU and
66 hardiwv : There is no competition or alternative so customer would not have choice anyway. And you can be sure that the majority of big corporate contract hold
67 C010T3 : Don't be worried, DT's schedule on the GDS is merely illustrative. We will most certainly see DT continue to operate a mix of both aircraft to both d
68 LipeGIG : Hardi, sorry to disagree. TAAG operation in Sao Paulo begin Tu/Th/Sa, and was changed to Mo/We/Fr, now if they also change the aircraft to me just onl
69 hardiwv : Could be, Lipe. Understanding TAAG strategy is beyond anyone's reasoning. Rotating the B747 and B772 also ensures that no pax could have guaranteed f
70 MHTripple7 : So there have been DT 777s flying to GRU? Wow, I've always thought of LAD as being much safer than LOS. Interesting...
71 C010T3 : Yes, it's been like that for a while. You can only be sure about what's coming until it's already on the ground.
72 MHTripple7 : That's annoying as a passenger, however, I suppose it is all about making money. Like someone else said, if cargo demand is higher for GIG on a certa
73 hardiwv : You never know what you will fly, this already adds to the fact that TAAG is the airline with worst on-time track performance in Brazil. Or it is all
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