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Wizz Air Ceases Bratislava  
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

Source of this cessation: www.wizzair.com

W6 operated to FCO 4x weekly. Announcement of BTS-FCO: http://wizzair.com/about_us/news/#wizen011

FR has 19 routes to BTS, including 3x weekly to CIA.

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W6 has also ceased BUD-BVA.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4939 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
FR has 19 routes to BTS.

What's that got to do with Wizz?  Wink



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5199 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4915 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
What's that got to do with Wizz?

It proves that they leave eachother alone. Each their own market, smart move.


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

It will be interesting to know the reason for this? Rome always seemed to be a strange route to start off the Slovakian flights! IMO they would have been better off with flight's to LTN & MAN the old Sky Europe routes, they always seemed to have decent loadings on them! BTS is crying out for a better standard of LCC carrier than Ryanair(sorry Pe@rson  Wink ) & all the stigma that's attached to them! Slovakia always seemed like the missing piece in the Wizz network.

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineHangaiistvan From Hungary, joined Jan 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4709 times:
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Wizzair wanted to make a hub with 1-2 A320 aircraft at Bratislava airport but Bratislava airport did not give good landing and airport prices for Wizzair so they moved out.

Regarding BUD-BVA flight: Easyjet flying from Orly to Budapest on same price as Wizzair done. Orly is close to Paris centrum, BVA is about 120 Km. This is the reason why everybody is flying with Easyjet to Paris.


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4637 times:



Quoting Hangaiistvan (Reply 4):
Wizzair wanted to make a hub with 1-2 A320 aircraft at Bratislava airport but Bratislava airport did not give good landing and airport prices for Wizzair so they moved out.

What the hell is wrong with the Slovakian Aviation Authorities? While I realize that they cant give rock bottom prices you would think that after the sad demise of Sky Europe that they would be giving some incentives to new airlines wanting to start services from BTS(unless Ryanair are turning the screws on them eg let more airlines in & we start pulling out! I wouldn't put that past them!). Apparently its the same at KSC(Kosice), I was wondering why nobody had stepped in to take over the old Sky Europe routes & it seems the authorities are asking too much money for airport charges/landing fee's! Whats wrong with them, don't they want successful airport's & plenty of business?

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4923 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4629 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 3):
It will be interesting to know the reason for this? Rome always seemed to be a strange route to start off the Slovakian flights! IMO they would have been better off with flight's to LTN & MAN the old Sky Europe routes,

At the time BTS-Rome was unserved, but BTS-LON had FR service, which probably explains the choice of FCO over LTN



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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4606 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
At the time BTS-Rome was unserved, but BTS-LON had FR service, which probably explains the choice of FCO over LTN

In which case go for MAN! Especially with the number of Slovaks in the north of England! IMO I would chose Wizz over Ryanair anytime in fact I think that Wizz are one of the few LCC's(along with Easyjet) who could give Ryanair a run for their money!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

Hasn't BTS lost quite a bit of airline service recently? Or am I making that up?

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

People viewing/replying to this thread might find these articles of interest:

From Dec 09: http://www.anna.aero/2009/12/11/slov...s-67-of-bratislavas-seat-capacity/

From Oct 09: http://www.anna.aero/2009/10/09/slov...ll-skyeuropes-uk-and-irish-routes/

From Sep 09: http://www.anna.aero/2009/09/04/slov...wizz-air-likely-to-take-advantage/

From Nov 08: http://www.anna.aero/2008/11/28/skye...ing-on-vienna-prague-and-slovakia/

From Jul 08: http://www.anna.aero/2008/07/18/slov...looks-elsewhere-for-opportunities/



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Does Air Slovakia actually operate any more? Can't seem to find any working website or other info on BTS airport website

User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4136 times:



Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
Does Air Slovakia actually operate any more?

Yes they do,although it looks like they've stopped the Birmingham-Bratislava-India scheduled flights & now concentrate on charter/holiday flights! They have 4 B737's & 1 B757, 2 of the 737's OM-ASD,OM-ASE & the 757 OM-ASG are currently leased out to Albanian Airlines which leaves OM-ASC & OM-ASF to operate the charters.
It looks like they are consolidating rather than expanding which with the aviation industry at the moment is probably a very wise move!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2393 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4090 times:

Air Slovakia does still operate to Amritsar although not from Birmingham. They fly Barcelona/Milan Orio al Serio-Bratislava-Amritsar.


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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4079 times:



Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 12):
Air Slovakia does still operate to Amritsar although not from Birmingham. They fly Barcelona/Milan Orio al Serio-Bratislava-Amritsar.

Thanks for the info Thomas, I thought they'd pulled out of scheduled flights altogether!
What aircraft type do they use on this flight with the B757 being leased out?

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4019 times:



Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 12):
Air Slovakia does still operate to Amritsar although not from Birmingham. They fly Barcelona/Milan Orio al Serio-Bratislava-Amritsar.

And who is the typical passenger on that flight?! That must be the most unlikely city pair, surely I must be missing something...



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4001 times:



Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 14):
And who is the typical passenger on that flight?! That must be the most unlikely city pair, surely I must be missing something...

I can only assume it attracts Sikh communities living in Italy and Spain - Amritsar is the site of the Golden Temple etc.


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

I'm afraid that's not

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 5):
Apparently its the same at KSC(Kosice), I was wondering why nobody had stepped in to take over the old Sky Europe routes & it seems the authorities are asking too much money for airport charges/landing fee's!

It's far from the same. While BTS is government owned, KSC is in private hands. The Slovak authorities can't dictate the landing fees in KSC at all.

Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
Does Air Slovakia actually operate any more? Can't seem to find any working website or other info on BTS airport website

They do. They're even talking about a new route; BTS-YYZ.


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3961 times:



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 16):
It's far from the same. While BTS is government owned, KSC is in private hands. The Slovak authorities can't dictate the landing fees in KSC at all.

Then they're making the same mistake which is being made at BTS!

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 16):
They're even talking about a new route; BTS-YYZ.

To do this they would need another aircraft as the only aircraft that they have capable of doing this route B757 OM-ASG is currently leased out to Albanian Airlines!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3929 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 17):
Then they're making the same mistake which is being made at BTS!

As a matter of fact, they've done even a bigger one - they raised the landing fees in late 2009.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 17):
To do this they would need another aircraft as the only aircraft that they have capable of doing this route B757 OM-ASG is currently leased out to Albanian Airlines!

I honestly don't know how they plan to do it. I've only read about it on sme.sk
Does the 752 even have the legs to do BTS-YYZ non-stop?


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3755 times:



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 18):
Does the 752 even have the legs to do BTS-YYZ non-stop?

Tibor, I'm not sure if it would? It's prob pushing it to it's max if it can!

Dave(SAAB900).

PS Nice photo of Kosice on your user profile(my wife recognized it she's from Presov)!


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3710 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 19):
Tibor, I'm not sure if it would? It's prob pushing it to it's max if it can!

Hi Dave,

I've checked the article on sme.sk and they're talking abut a stopover at KEF...so their plane doesn't have the legs. I still don't know how they want to fly one plane all over the place. I'm afraid it will end the same way as Fly Globespan's YHM service ended...

Back on topic, it's sad to see how Slovak airports are losing service...although for me personally, LCC service to BTS doesn't really matter. I'd rather welcome more *A presence in KSC. I'm afraid it won't happen anytime soon (if ever)

Tibor

PS: Now I see why you know so much about Slovakia  Big grin


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3608 times:



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 20):
I've checked the article on sme.sk and they're talking abut a stopover at KEF...so their plane doesn't have the legs.

Unless the Albanian Airlines lease is coming to an end they will need another aircraft to operate the route if it does go ahead.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 20):
I still don't know how they want to fly one plane all over the place.

I suppose while its in the air & being used it's making them money,which is the name of the game. Are there enough Slovaks in this part of Canada to make a route like this work?
I know what you mean about ending up like Fly Globespan with a flight of that distance you need a back up plan/aircraft! Especially with it not being a new aircraft.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 20):
I'd rather welcome more *A presence in KSC. I'm afraid it won't happen anytime soon (if ever)

So would we, the old Sky Europe MAN-KSC route was perfect for us, MAN only being a 1 hour drive in the car for us & Presov being so close at the other end! I just cant believe KSC putting up their charges when they've just lost their biggest customer! Although all is not lost for us as Danube Wings has just started up a MAN-POP service with help from CSA which would save the long train journey from BTS. I hope Danube Wings might think about MAN-KSC if the POP flights are a success,but with the increase in charges at KSC I doubt it!  Sad

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 20):
PS: Now I see why you know so much about Slovakia

Yes it's now my 2nd home & I must admit I love the country & the people to bit's. I'm actually getting brave enough to go across on my own now, without the wife! I finally got the airshow in Piestany done in 2009 which was amazing!  Smile Another great thing about Slovakia is access at most of the airfield's with the exception of BTS,POP & KSC isn't normally a problem which is great!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3564 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 21):
Unless the Albanian Airlines lease is coming to an end

It only started a little while ago (month or two ago or something?)


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3486 times:



Quoting Vasu (Reply 22):

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 21):
Unless the Albanian Airlines lease is coming to an end

It only started a little while ago (month or two ago or something?)

So how do they fly to ATQ?

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 21):
Are there enough Slovaks in this part of Canada to make a route like this work?

I doubt it. However, I don't think Slovaks are the target group.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 21):
Although all is not lost for us as Danube Wings has just started up a MAN-POP service with help from CSA which would save the long train journey from BTS.

I heard a rumour that Danube Wings flies to TAT just because KSC is too expensive. For you it's a longer trip to Presov than from KSC, but it's still only about 100 km. And you don't have to drive trough Kosice.

PS: The train trip may be fun too. In summer I arrived to VIE, met up with my oldest brother in Bratislava and we took the train to his place together. I guess I don't have to say that we spent the whole trip in the restaurant car...


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Might as well post this about W6 in here rather than starting a new thread for it:

From Peanuts Daily:

Wizz Air reports its passenger traffic on services to Bulgaria increased 76% year-on-year to 590,000 passengers on 22 routes (Dnevnik, 11-Jan-2010). Passenger traffic to Romania increased 87% year-on-year, with the carrier launching 16 new routes. Wizz Air plans to launch services from Sofia to Paris, Frankfurt Hahn, Bologna and Madrid from May-2010 and will base a third A320 at Cluj and launch services to Pisa and Cuneo/Turin from Jun-2010.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
25 SAAB900 : Who do you think they are trying to target? This could be true,but IIRC the old Sky Europe TAT flights had good loadings on them so it could be a bit
26 WildcatYXU : Indians (is that the proper name?). There is no non-stop service from YYZ anywhere to India anyway, so I think they wouldn't mind the YYZ-BTS-ATQ tri
27 Post contains links SAAB900 : Yes thats the proper name. Yes I've been told its not one of their strongpoints & especially reading these reports... http://www.airlinequality.com/F
28 Post contains links JoKeR : BEG base on the brink of opening... initial flights to LTN and DTM http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....yyy=2010&mm=01&dd=14&nav_id=403960
29 JU068 : Is it going to be operated by the plane they plan to base in Belgrade or?
30 Pe@rson : New route: WAW-TKU. This means W6 has 4 routes to TKU: from BUD; WAW; GDN; and RIX.
31 SAAB900 : Great BEG is on my "to do" list for this year, although if I can get it at the right price I might use JAT. Dave(SAAB900).
32 JoKeR : Apparently so, at least one A320 will be registered and based in Serbia. Gr8! Welcome!
33 SAAB900 : Thanks. Are there any problems with spotting & taking photo's at BEG? The museum close to the airport is also to be done & I want to fit in as much a
34 JU068 : There shouldn't be any problem for spotting or taking pictures, I never had any problems, I think Belgrade is the best in spring, not too hot and not
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