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Major Quake In Haiti - Flights Impacted?  
User currently offlineIlliniCMI From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 77 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11129 times:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34829978/ns/world_news-americas/

Just wondering how this is affecting flights to Haiti (or neighboring Dominican Republic), and if anybody knows of damage at the airport.

[Edited 2010-01-12 15:12:22]

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User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11114 times:

Airport closed. AC's weekly flight, a 763, departed an hour before the quake. CNN is saying that an AA flight didn't make it out as scheduled.

User currently offlineHomadreaming From United States of America, joined May 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11020 times:

Don't know how accurate it is, but CNN reporting an AA flight is stuck, was boarding as the earth quack happened. No reports about injuries or anything...Just that the airport is closed and the runways might be damaged...Again this is a CNN report and could very well be yet another big mistake the media makes about aviation stuff...

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11019 times:



Quoting Homadreaming (Reply 2):
but CNN reporting an AA flight is stuck, was boarding as the earth quack happened. No reports about injuries or anything

AA 1908, a 763 and the last departure to the U.S. of the day, departed one hour late. I assume that's the plane that they were referring to.



a.
User currently offlineHomadreaming From United States of America, joined May 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10989 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
AA 1908, a 763 and the last departure to the U.S. of the day, departed one hour late. I assume that's the plane that they were referring to.

very correct.

After inspecting the runways The plane was able to take off according to CNN...On its way to MIA


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10978 times:

Sunwing also got a flight out to YUL after the quake

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWG783


User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10926 times:

Ouch. I realize this is an aviation forum...but the impatcs for airlines ops are of relatively trivial concern. Good thing it appears the runway at PAP will be available to support aid flights. I can only imagine the consequences for Haitians.

User currently offlineIlliniCMI From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10853 times:



Quoting Frostbite (Reply 6):
Ouch. I realize this is an aviation forum...but the impatcs for airlines ops are of relatively trivial concern. Good thing it appears the runway at PAP will be available to support aid flights. I can only imagine the consequences for Haitians.

Agreed. I was just going to mention that about the aid flights. Appears to be a bad situation down there.


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2520 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10796 times:



Quoting Frostbite (Reply 6):
Good thing it appears the runway at PAP will be available to support aid flights.

If they're able to get a 763 out of there, they should be able to get some C-130s in there. Best wishes for those affected.


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10537 times:

AA's five daily flights into PAP will not operate tomorrow until the runway and the airport itself are deemed as being safe for commercial flights. However, limited commercial flights are scheduled to resume on Thursday.

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10471 times:

DL435 from JFK tomorrow = cxld.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1784 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10358 times:

Caribair, which flies 2x daily JBQ-PAP-JBQ, announced tomorrow's flights will not operate. The Dominican government is sending an air force transport plane first thing in the morning with several rescue teams, search dogs and aid supplies.

Its likely that Dominican, UN and USA military helicopters will be shuttling the injured from Haiti to hospitals in Santo Domingo and Santiago.


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10243 times:



Quoting Frostbite (Reply 6):
Good thing it appears the runway at PAP will be available to support aid flights. I can only imagine the consequences for Haitians.

INdeed, a good news in an otherwise horrific day in Haiti. Talked to some friends on the ground on Skype; it is as bad as the pictures on TV show it to be. Lots of help will be needed. My thoughts are with those affected.


User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10114 times:

I heard that the tower at PAP is closed and abandoned as unsafe. If the runway is OK, they might be able to get some Aegis cruisers or even a carrier from Norfolk down there to act as the tower to coordinate aid flights.

It sounds like PAP will be KO'd for some time to come  Sad


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7323 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10080 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
AA 1908

Fox News had a blurp about a plane that took off during the earthquake, can anyone confirm this?


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1784 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10023 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 14):
Fox News had a blurp about a plane that took off during the earthquake, can anyone confirm this?

It was AA 1908, which was scheduled to leave around the time of the quake but ended up leaving an hour late after the runway was inspected for major damage. And about an hour before the quake a Sunwing flight took off for YUL.

Aid flights will be coming in to PAP left and right tomorrow (from Dominican Republic, USA, France, Canada, Venezuela and Brazil among others), but it will take a couple of days for commercial flights to be completely back online. Aid workers and the international press will make their way into the country via DR and then by helicopter and road to Port au Prince (assuming the road from the border to the city is drivable).


User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9853 times:

Is there any possibility of Aid coming from Guantanamo bay, since it's so close? Maybe search and rescue helicopters?


"The brave don't live forever, but the cautious don't live at all."
User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9749 times:

F9fan is correct, The tower at PAP is heavily damaged andon the verge of collapse. BBC says that US Air Force is preparing to send temporary ATC equipment to get the airport operational asap. Aid flights may start to Santo Domingo, with materials being transported overland..

User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9722 times:

And AF twice daily A320 PAP-MIA and PAP-PTP-FDF-CAY, any news?

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9679 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 18):
And AF twice daily A320 PAP-MIA and PAP-PTP-FDF-CAY, any news?

No commercial flights will operate into PAP today including AA, AF, TX, 7L, etc. Spirit Airlines has released a statement in regards to the current situation in Haïti and has issued a "Flexible Travel Protection Policy" for their PAP customers.

SPIRIT AIRLINES PREPARING RELIEF EFFORT FOR HAITI:
"Spirit has cancelled Wednesday's flights between Fort Lauderdale and Port-au-Prince, Haiti, and will reinstate service as soon as the airport is open. Spirit is currently reaching out to first-responder organizations and other early-stage disaster relief resources/agencies in order to assist with transporting medical and other professionals, as well as equipment to Port-au-Prince as soon as we are able to operate flights to that airport in an effort to assist as much as possible until the U.S. government and larger relief and humanitarian organizations can gear up what is expected to be a major relief effort."
http://www.spiritair.com/PressReleaseDetails.aspx?number=20100112B

[Edited 2010-01-13 02:14:06]

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9628 times:

[/quote]

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 18):
And AF twice daily A320 PAP-MIA and PAP-PTP-FDF-CAY, any news?

Historically, when PAP has become inaccessible due to storm or violence, Air France flights to Miami simply operate non-stop to/from Pointe Pitre or Fort de France.



a.
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9575 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 18):
And AF twice daily A320 PAP-MIA and PAP-PTP-FDF-CAY, any news?

Historically, when PAP has become inaccessible due to storm or violence, Air France flights to Miami simply operate non-stop to/from Pointe Pitre or Fort de France.

According to AF's website, AF3958 is scheduled to operate today:
Departure from Pointe à Pitre (PTP) at 4:40 PM
Arrival in Port au Prince (PAP) at 5:35 PM
Departure from Port au Prince (PAP) at 6:35 PM
Arrival in Miami (MIA) at 8:25 PM

American Eagle will also operate a flight between SJU and PAP today.


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9392 times:



Quoting Planenutz (Reply 17):
Aid flights may start to Santo Domingo, with materials being transported overland..

The biggest runway closest to PAP is in BRX Barahona, Dominican Republic, 70nm by air from PAP. One could expect that airport to get some relief flights with aid for the Haitian victims.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9362 times:

PAP / MTPP:

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/MTPP



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineIlliniCMI From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

U.N. apparently saying the airport is now open for aid flights.

25 777jaah : Colombia's Air force is preparing a relief flight. Probably a C-130 will be deployed, rather than the 707 they sometimes send on this missions, is alw
26 Post contains links Tjwgrr : Looks like American Eagle is running a charter into PAP from SJU: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EGF9832 and a G3 from OPF: http://flightaware.com
27 OP3000 : According to news reports no large aircraft (commercial or military) have landed so far this morning. The Dominican Republic Air Force has sent two ai
28 Dispatchguy : THIS REPLACES DCC ADVISORY 015 AND UPDATES INFORMATION REGARDING HAITI ATC STATUS. PORT AU PRINCE ACC STATES THEY ARE ACCEPTING OVERFLIGHTS THROUGH TH
29 RFields5421 : Guantanamo doesn't have much in the way of aircraft, helicopters or people for a relief/ rescue effort. The main purpose of Guantanamo is as a suppor
30 Contrails15 : All our flts to D.R are going out. POP, STI and SDQ. Thats for B6 btw. We saw no impact from the earthquake
31 YVRLTN : Its 5000' so that will be fine for a C130. PAP is over 9000' so assume they can accept C5's, IL76's and Antonov's there if necessary??
32 Icelandair75W : FI is one of the first airlines to arrive into PAP with relief workers and supplies. Over 30 workers and supplies for 10 days in the holds and in the
33 Dispatchguy : THIS REPLACES DCC ADVISORY 029 AND UPDATES INFORMATION REGARDING HAITI ATC STATUS. PORT AU PRINCE ACC STATES THEY ARE ACCEPTING OVERFLIGHTS THROUGH TH
34 Jetjeanes : Checking Flightaware Dc-4 and a DC-3-t are enroute along with a miami air 737-8
35 Post contains links OP3000 : This article has some insight on flights coming in today: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...10-01-13-haiti-rescue-effort_N.htm So far reported to
36 Post contains links Captainstorck : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N406WA the DC-4 now appears to have diverted back to Opa Locka, any ideas why?
37 Post contains links Captainstorck : Flightaware is also showing a Belgian Air Force A333 coming through Halifax tonight http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAF602 as well as an Air China
38 Thenoflyzone : There is air traffic control. The frequencies are fine, based on reply #28 by Dispatchguy, it's the radar that is not. Everything is done with non-ra
39 OP3000 : No idea. But if its because of the airport at PAP its ridiculous. They can land at BRX, STI, CAP or SDQ and get the supplies/personnel by land/choppe
40 Spacepope : Just arrived: N356PH looks like it's a gov't "owned" Dash-8 (one of those shell companies registered to a PO Box on Wilmington, DE) carrying an advanc
41 CaptainStorck : looks like the Lynden Air Cargo C-130 from IAD just landed as well as 200MF (Turbine DC-3) from FPR on top of a Miami Air 738 from IAD that arrived w
42 CaptainStorck : If I remember correctly, I think I heard CNN say this is USAID
43 Stratoduck : Miami FSS reported as of this afternoon, Port-Au-Prince and Cape HaItien are open. Cape is 4900 feet and open to all traffic. PAP is restricted to hum
44 OP3000 : According to news reports the US State Department will be evacuating American citizens out of PAP starting tomorrow morning. They mention two 100-seat
45 B757lvr : Impressive that Belgium and China both have A333 enroute to MTPP, I am glad the international response is not lagging.
46 ASARamper : I agree with you on this. I wonder if anymore will come I also noticed a Iceair 757 not sure if that was a flightaware error
47 Post contains links SCL767 : American Eagle operated three relief flights into PAP today and will continue to do so for the next few days: "American and American Eagle have alread
48 LTBEWR : NBC/MSNBC news was reporting tonight that a temporary ATC facility was flown in to PAP airport and should be set up soon to manage the airport's movem
49 IlliniCMI : Yeah according to NBC News the USAF is going to have ATC set up by morning. Multiple generators are apparently en route.
50 OP3000 : This from wikipedia: The Dominican Airport at El Higuero (5 miles North of Santo Domingo) is working as a hub to carry help local and international re
51 Post contains images Spacepope : I noticed that a us SOCOM PC-12 flew to Puerto rico, arriving about the same time as the gov't Dash-8 that dropped off the advanced team at PAP. Looks
52 Bennett123 : I was watching BBC News 24, which briefly showed a C130 N405LC, (Lyden Air Cargo) apparently being loaded to go.
53 ASARamper : I thought it was...Thanks for confiming!
54 RFields5421 : From ABC News this morning. They are doing their standups in front of the Air China aircraft on the ground in PAP and showing arrivals of many aircraf
55 Post contains links Bennett123 : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8458797.stm The first two seconds show C130 1501 of the USCG and a second C130. There is another aircraft, (
56 Dispatchguy : THE FAA COMMAND CENTER HAS ACTIVATED THE CRISIS MANAGEMENT CENTER TO FACILITATE INFORMATION REGARDING AIR TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS TO MTPP. THE CMC WILL BE O
57 OP3000 : AA reports it has brought it 30,000 tons of food and water. This has come in on MQ ATR-72s from SJU, which have also served to evacuate some of the 10
58 Spacepope : Pounds, not tons.
59 Post contains links Tjwgrr : Not much ramp space indeed: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=e....294888&spn=0.021682,0.049267&z=15
60 Yellowtail : Those ATRs are some pretty heavy lifters....giving the C-130s a run for their money
61 SurfandSnow : Let's not forget that PAP (and Haiti in general) has traditionally hosted VERY few flights. AC, AA, DL, NK, and AF would probably be the only carrier
62 Swmdal : As of 2145 EST on 1/14, AA's Website is showing flights into PAP available for purchase on 1/15 from MIA, JFK and STI.
63 JDAirCEO : AA has around 100 employees in PAP. As the above poster mentioned, AA is sending in relief flights and trying to locate employees and provide them wit
64 Bennett123 : Watching BBC News 24 in the last 24 hrs, I have seen the following; C17 6157 of the 60AMW C130 84407 of the AFRC C130 1500 of USCG, (Clearwater) C17 o
65 Flying Belgian : According to FlightStats.com, - AA seems to be up and flying with 763s to JFK and to MIA. AF is also sending its daily MIA A320 and Insel Air is also
66 OP3000 : All AA flights to PAP today were cancelled, and I'm sure the same goes for AF. Due to heavily limited ramp space the airport is only accepting high-p
67 Contrails15 : So how are they addressing the issue with jet fuel? can they fly in a tanker plane? I'm not familiar with how PAP even gets there fuel. I"m thinking i
68 IlliniCMI : I wondered this as well. Heard on the news that the limited amount of fuel meant that planes were having to carry enough fuel to fly out again, meani
69 RFields5421 : They are not letting in aircraft without sufficient fuel to make the flight out to another location where they can refuel. Not only do they have very
70 BHMDiversion : DL has cancelled all flights to PAP until 17JAN10.
71 RFields5421 : Google Earth shows a tank farm with 18 large tanks about 2 miles from PAP - with a 500 foot pier. That is probably how fuel gets into the nation.
72 Post contains links ManuCH : Please continue discussion here: Haiti Relief Aircraft (by AA777223 Jan 14 2010 in Civil Aviation) This thread will now be locked. Any additional post
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