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User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2771 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Hello everyone!

I remember there was a thread sometime ago about what was needed in order to start your airline. I tried to find it but couldn't so if anyone can tell me it would be great, I was always interested!
And how different is it from country to country...

Thanks a lot!

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User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2054 times:

For a starter, money, or some serious guarantees.


rolf
User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2026 times:

You need a lot of money and a desire to lose it all.

User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2771 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Yeah OK, besides money, what are the bureaucratic procedures that you need to take of?

User currently offlineFlyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Remember all that money you needed? Start dishing it out to politicians to bribe them so you can get a competitive advantage over other airlines who will try to shut you down.


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User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1880 times:
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Posted Wed Oct 19 2005

Do any airlines offer a "fantasy camp" where regular guys with no flight experience can
get a few days training in a big jet or on a flight simulator?
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This is really fascinating.

I found the above in the archives under the heading "Airline 'Fantasy Camp' " .

It would appear that in addition to starting living, breathing airlines,
there are members who want the experience without raising the capitol, and that's okay.

This was at about the time the A&E cable network was running the show "Airline" and as I recall there was much interest in how to manage the many human relations and customer service problems the show revealed.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

Boeing has a page on their site for help,

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/

also will probably be easier and quicker to buy an existing small airline to get their operating certificate and staff already in place, and then modify the business as you see fit after you get control.



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User currently offlineMetjetceo From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Ask yourself if you really want to be an airline, or do you think you can do it as a Part 380 operation. As a Public charter operator you can brand everything in the way that you want, but you can outsource everything (air, ground, etc) to larger companies that get economies of scale that a start up operation doesnt.

Plus, you can cater your operation around the lanes. Look at Myrtle Beach Direct Air that operates lanes through outsourced DC-9s and Airbus A319s (It may be A320s). Likewise, if you were an actual 121 carrier you could never operate two types as a startup.

Likewise as a Part 380 operator, the one advantage you have is that you cannot operate in any particular lane more than 4x per week, but if you are operating to underserviced cities you may not need daily service.

The plan that I have been talking to the industry about for 2 years is actually a Part 380 operation. There are advantages and disadvantages for each avenue you select.


User currently offlineVoar From Canada, joined Jul 2008, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

In Canada, the basic certification procedures are in these publications:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/publications/EN/TP8880/PDF%5CHR/TP8880E.pdf


http://www.tc.gc.ca/publications/EN/TP4711/PDF%5CHR/TP4711E.PDF

As you mentioned, things vary by country.
Hope this helps!


User currently offlineAlwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

A famous phrase goes:

"If you want to become a millionaire..............first become a billionaire and then start an airline!".

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 6):
also will probably be easier and quicker to buy an existing small airline to get their operating certificate and staff already in place, and then modify the business as you see fit after you get control.

Little insider trading tip..........just between you and me, that is......don´t let on.
Placa a hostile bid on JAL, A.S.A.P.

Without going into details to avoid having this post deleted because of commercial reasons: there is a cool game out for a rather popular brand smart phone called "Airline Tycoon".
It gets more and more airports with every software update............and it´s pretty funny to see your routes grow (or shrink) as you give your pax pig´s grub for maximum $$$$$.
There´s a good selection of aircraft as well.

### "I am always on the Run"###



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User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

-A solid BP first of all
-Capital
-A clearly defined niche or your setting yourself up
-A core management team initially
-A willingness to take huge risks
-An ego in check because at the end of the day, you might not be the best qualified to run the airline

questions?



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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

A good bankruptcy lawyer  duck 

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