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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

When in ELP over Christmas, I noticed that CO mainline seems to have pulled out of ELP. Does anyone know when this happened? It's odd to me AA has several daily mainline flights to DFW, but CO has none to IAH. Given CO's history at ELP, it's kind of sad. Does anybody have any insight?

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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

According to wiki, this appears to be the case  sigh 

The 735 seemed perfect for ELP-IAH, IMHO. I wonder if they exchanged frequency for mainline. There used to be two daily mainline flights to IAH, supplemented by one or two ExpressJet runs...



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

It's true -- ELP now only has mainline service from AA, DL and WN.

I don't know why, but AA has always seemed to have a stronger brand in ELP -- it's not only supported a slew of mainline flights to DFW, but a couple of mainline flights to ORD as well. I have no idea why CO has reverted to an all-RJ lineup at ELP, but my guess is that they simply couldn't fill the planes. It could be due to the fact that, for a long time, they competed more with WN on the El Paso-Houston routes than AA competed with WN on the El Paso-Dallas routes (since the Wright Amendment limited WN connections at DAL). Or it could be that El Paso passengers have been divided into AA-loyalists and WN-loyalists, and CO has simply been left out.



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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2058 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I don't know why, but AA has always seemed to have a stronger brand in ELP -- it's not only supported a slew of mainline flights to DFW, but a couple of mainline flights to ORD as well. I have no idea why CO has reverted to an all-RJ lineup at ELP, but my guess is that they simply couldn't fill the planes. It could be due to the fact that, for a long time, they competed more with WN on the El Paso-Houston routes than AA competed with WN on the El Paso-Dallas routes (since the Wright Amendment limited WN connections at DAL). Or it could be that El Paso passengers have been divided into AA-loyalists and WN-loyalists, and CO has simply been left out.

Interesting. I bet before WN, the ELP passengers were divided between CO loyalists and AA loyalists....

I wonder if it's only a matter of time before DL goes all-RJ.


User currently offlineCMB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

CO mainline is back in ELP... two morning departures and one evening arrival RON I believe

User currently onlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2015 times:



Quoting CMB320 (Reply 4):
CO mainline is back in ELP

Only until February 11th, then it's gone permanently.



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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2004 times:



Quoting CMB320 (Reply 4):

What changed in 37 minutes?!?  Silly

Starting Monday, CO goes to all RJ at ELP.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineFLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Just like TUS, which is back to all RJ come February 11th. Of course, comparing our loads to ELP's today, I can see why ELP would be all RJ. They aren't even that great for RJ's...


Ready. Set. Jet.
User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1878 times:



Quoting FLY2TUS (Reply 7):
Just like TUS, which is back to all RJ come February 11th.

ABQ goes all RJ on Feb. 11,too. WTF Continental?  Angry

ABQ and ELP are some of the first cities CO ever served. It seems like they are not even trying to compete against WN anymore.  Sad



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Too bad for CO. ELP is a beautiful place.

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I don't know why, but AA has always seemed to have a stronger brand in ELP -- it's not only supported a slew of mainline flights to DFW, but a couple of mainline flights to ORD as well.

ELP-LAX also on Eagle still...right? That would be another big one in the area for AA.

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 8):
ABQ goes all RJ on Feb. 11,too. WTF Continental?  

We all know how much CO loooovvvveeessss their expressjets...



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1749 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I don't know why, but AA has always seemed to have a stronger brand in ELP

Wierd situation, AA built ELP (literally-it was their airport before they handed it over to the city of El Paso  Smile ), and CO actually started in El Paso (at the municipal airport, though...). CO maintained El Paso as a focus city until Frank Lorenzo took down the focus city...



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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1723 times:



Quoting FLY2TUS (Reply 7):
comparing our loads to ELP's today

What were they?


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Not that I would ever wish it upon my fellow native Texans, but maybe IAH needs another hurricaine to blow through, so ELP can get 764s and 777s again  Silly


Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineFLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1477 times:



Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 11):
What were they?

Only one of the flights was full, a couple low 40s and the other two 20-some pax.



Ready. Set. Jet.
User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

I remember when CO flew DEN-ELP-MEX.

User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1365 times:



Quoting FLY2TUS (Reply 13):

Only one of the flights was full, a couple low 40s and the other two 20-some pax.

Yikes. That is bad, especially for a Friday. I guess we should be glad they didn't downgrade to SF3... lol .... Like I said, it's sad give the history, but as we know, history and nostalgia don't pay the bills.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6123 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1231 times:



Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 15):

Luckily I believe for Colgan El Paso is out of there range. I non-reved on a San Angelo flight when my wife was working it, and I almost got bumped. With ELP being farther I think it's out of reach. A future Q400 route maybe?



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User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1178 times:



Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Thread starter):
When in ELP over Christmas

Ah, you bring back sweet memories of luminarias and desert winters...

Oddly, DL has cut one mainline flight to/from ATL and is now one mainline and two RJs. SLC is now two measly RJs a day. Whatever happened to that good ol' Western route and those 737s??


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