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User currently offlineFlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 521 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7635 times:

Hey everyone!

Just looked through the database a little bit, and I came across a couple of LH DC10 photos. So I started looking through those and saw two picture captations which got me thinking:

LH DC10 MUC-JFK, DUS-JFK and STR-JFK pictures.

What routes did LH utilize the DC10s on non-FRA routes?

Cheers,

Thilo


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User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 745 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7192 times:

JFK/LIM/LPB/SCL/LPB/LIM/JFK

User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

The South America West Coast was a continuation of the FRA-JFK flight.

There was a number of such tag flights, I flew LH D10 once FRA/ATH/KHI/BKK and that went on via HKG to NRT.

Before the DUS/JFK flight was shifted to DUS it operated CGN/JFK for a while



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User currently offlineFlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6932 times:

I am not referring to the tag-ons of those flights. I am asking about flights originating from Germany to anywhere longhaul in the world that were not out of FRA. For example:

LH408 STR-JFK.

What are/were the DUS/CGN flight numbers?



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User currently offlineBoeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6893 times:


LH #694 arriving SIN from FRA via BOM... Just beautiful!



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6851 times:



Quoting FlyinTLow (Reply 3):
LH408 STR-JFK.

from the depht of my memory, but that was not STR/JFK but rather STR-DUS (737)DUS-JFK D10. I am not sure of I have LHJ timetables from those years, however, 408 could have been MUC-DUS-JFK and that flight had connections at DUS from HAM and STR.

A decade earlier around the 60/702 LH408 was a daily 707 MUC-HAM-JFK.

New York was about the only "decentralized" D10 flights LH had, all others where attached to FRA, like FRA-DUS-ANC-NRT. This was served by 742s and D10s.



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User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6781 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
from the depht of my memory, but that was not STR/JFK but rather STR-DUS (737)DUS-JFK D10. I am not sure of I have LHJ timetables from those years, however, 408 could have been MUC-DUS-JFK and that flight had connections at DUS from HAM and STR.

LH did operate STR-DUS/CGN-JFK with same-plane D10 service but later changed the pattern when the D10 turned around in DUS while inter-German connections to STR and HAM where operated by 737 with the same flight numbers.


User currently offlinePennPal From United States of America, joined May 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6749 times:

I remember seeing a LH DC10 in Nassau in the mid-70's. Not sure where the flight originated from though...

User currently offlineTHEENGINEER From Germany, joined Mar 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6378 times:

Are there any websites that have old LH timetables?

User currently offlineIrregking From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

In either 1989 or 1991 I flew as a UM on a LH DC-10 from CAI to FRA.

That year was the only year that LH ever used the DC-10 (only for a short while though, maybe a couple of months over the summer) on the FRA-CAI-FRA route instead of the usual A300-600R.
It is also possible that the DC-10 continued to ADD or KRT after CAI back then.



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User currently offlineDairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5166 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
408 could have been MUC-DUS-JFK

The history of LH408 is quite complicated - was always departing from MUC to JFK, but going via HAM, CGN or DUS.

1969: MUC-HAM-JFK with 707
(from 11.-31.8.69 NUE-HAM-JFK due to closed MUC)
Summer 1970:: MUC-HAM-JFK 707


Winter 1970/1971 MUC-CGN-JFK 747
Summer 1972 MUC-CGN-JFK with 707
Winter 1973/1974 & Summer 1974 MUC-CGN-JFK with 747
Winter 1975/1976 MUC-CGN-JFK 707
Summer 1976 MUC-CGN-JFK DC10
Winter 1976/1977 MUC-CGN-JFK 707
Summer 1978 MUC-CGN-JFK DC10


Winter 1980/1981 MUC-DUS-JFK DC10
Summer 1982 MUC-DUS-JFK 747
Winter 1983 MUC-DUS-JFK 747&DC10
Summer 1985 MUC-DUS-JFK 747&DC10

Winter 1986/1987 MUC-DUS-JFK Dc10 only 1234
--> Winter 1986/1987 MUC-JFK DC10 nonstop 567 as LH410

Winter 1988/1989 MUC-DUS-JFK DC10

Winter 1991/1992 MUC-DUS-JFK DC10



to the decentralized routes I add
LH466 MUC-DUS-MIA (Summer 1989) DC10 Days 2,4,7
LH466 MUC-DUS-MIA (Summer 1990) DC10 Days 4,5,6
LH468 MUC-MIA (Summer 1991) DC10 on Days 4 and 6

LH716 MUC-KHI-TOKYO (SUmmer 1987) DC10 Days 5,7 (--> one year before this was LH640 and LH642, same routing)

LH434 MUC-DUS-ORD DC10 Days 2,4,6 (SUmmer 1987)
LH432 MUC-ORD DC10 Days 1,3,5,7 (SUmmer 1987)

in Summer 1989 & Summer 1990 there were also:
LH432 MUC-DUS-ORD DC10 except 4,6
LH458 MUC-DUS-LAX 74M/DC10 Days 2,4,7
LH704 MUC-ANC-TOKYO DC10


never happend (due to late delivery of first 747-400) but announced were in Summer 1989

LH480 MUC-DUS-YYZ D10
LH482 MUC-DUS-YYZ D10



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User currently offlineFlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4427 times:



Quoting Dairy (Reply 10):

Excellent information!

Thanks a lot!



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6203 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4374 times:
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Quoting PennPal (Reply 7):
I remember seeing a LH DC10 in Nassau in the mid-70's. Not sure where the flight originated from though...

That ought to have been the MEX-Nassau-FRA flight or the return. LH flew that route up until the 80´s I believe, with the DC-10



MGGS
User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

Thanks Boeing777Forever for putting up such a nice pic!

What a beautiful aircraft the DC10 is - truly a smart looking plane!



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9375 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Excellent info indeed

Quoting Dairy (Reply 10):
The history of LH408 is quite complicated - was always departing from MUC to JFK, but going via HAM, CGN or DUS.


1969: MUC-HAM-JFK with 707

Thanks, I was right with my memory. I often had cargo on the LH 408 from HAM and that flight number is engraved as AC873 for instance. I could see the 707 to JFK from my office window each day, quite noisy when they went along with full power. I loved it, even though I had to wait with a phone call until they were up in the air.

Quoting Dairy (Reply 10):
ummer 1976 MUC-CGN-JFK DC10

yep, i was on an inaugural CGN-JFK that year.



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User currently offlineTHEENGINEER From Germany, joined Mar 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 3794 times:



Quoting Dairy (Reply 10):
due to closed MUC

Why was MUC closed?


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25300 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3695 times:



Quoting THEENGINEER (Reply 15):
Quoting Dairy (Reply 10):
due to closed MUC

Why was MUC closed?

The main runway at the old Munich-Riem airport was lengthened to 9,200 ft. in 1969. I expect the closure was related to completion of that work. The only other runway was very short and couldn't handle airliners.


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