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Taking Human Remains In Hand Luggage?  
User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 21313 times:

How does one transport ashes with suitable dignity these days? Is it better to check it in?  scratchchin 

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User currently offlineJetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 21305 times:

I had a passenger check in an urn in their checked bag because they felt it was too heavy to carry on, despite my offering them to take it as a hand carry.

I just put a bunch of fragile tags on it and sent it on its way.



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User currently offlineTommy212 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 21279 times:

It depends on the airline for my experience, most of the airlines i work for will accept human ashes onboard in hand luggage. Human remains can be taken on most airlines (if not all) as cargo but that would have to be cleared with the airline before travel as all relevent cargo and HUM paperwork will need to be filled out.

Best way is to phone up the airline direct and advise you will be travelling with human ashes, normally its more of a problem for secruity to screen.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4423 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 21243 times:

Recently someone I know had to deal with it. In the US, UPS and Fedex do not transport ashes but the USPS do. So the ashes were shipped by the crematory to the funeral house in another state by USPS inside a predetermined wooden box. They used the same wooden box in the service so no transferring of ashes had to take place.

User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 21210 times:

Er, what would happen if the TSA guys want you to open the Urn? Would they respect passenger sensitivities?

User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1861 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 21136 times:
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Out of interest, does an urn or box containing ashes still qualify as a HUM shipment?

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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 21099 times:

I carried them on post 9/11 not one problem YYC-DFW-SMF then my mom took them as carry on SMF-TLL (not sure of the exact routing) also a non-issue. If it is an option I would have the funeral home ship them though.

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 21085 times:
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Quoting Comorin (Reply 4):

the funeral home prepares documents for the urn/ashes and the pax will show them upon entering the checkpoint and screening. Not sure what other procedures TSA takes, but pax take it on quite often.



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User currently offlineFrmrCAPCADET From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1714 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 20956 times:

In my state WA, IIRC, cremated remains are not considered 'human remains'.


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User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 20885 times:



Quoting Comorin (Reply 4):
Er, what would happen if the TSA guys want you to open the Urn? Would they respect passenger sensitivities?

Directly from the TSA website:

"We understand how painful losing a loved one is, and we respect anyone traveling with crematory remains. Passengers are allowed to carry a crematory container as part of their carry-on luggage, but the container must pass through the X-ray machine. If the container is made of a material that generates an opaque image and prevents the Transportation Security Officer from clearly being able to see what is inside, then the container cannot be allowed through the security checkpoint.

Out of respect to the deceased and their family and friends, under no circumstances will an officer open the container even if the passenger requests this be done. Documentation from the funeral home is not sufficient to carry a crematory container through security and onto a plane without screening."

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...l/specialneeds/editorial_1296.shtm



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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 20779 times:



Quoting Lufthansa411 (Reply 9):

Thank you! that answers my questions and I hope others benefit too.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5598 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 20755 times:



Quoting Lufthansa411 (Reply 9):

"We understand how painful losing a loved one is, and we respect anyone traveling with crematory remains. Passengers are allowed to carry a crematory container as part of their carry-on luggage, but the container must pass through the X-ray machine. If the container is made of a material that generates an opaque image and prevents the Transportation Security Officer from clearly being able to see what is inside, then the container cannot be allowed through the security checkpoint.

Out of respect to the deceased and their family and friends, under no circumstances will an officer open the container even if the passenger requests this be done. Documentation from the funeral home is not sufficient to carry a crematory container through security and onto a plane without screening."

Wow. TSA doing something right. Who would've thunk it?



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3655 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 20512 times:
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Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 5):
Out of interest, does an urn or box containing ashes still qualify as a HUM shipment?

For cargo, yes. And there are separate codes for a casket (HUMC) and for ashes (HUMA).


User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 839 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20281 times:
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I carried my father-in-law'sd remains through the security checkpoint here in CLE and it was a complete non-issue. We did, however, have a letter and there was some sort of metal disc in the box for identification purposes (or thats what the funeral home claimed).


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 20176 times:



Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 5):
Out of interest, does an urn or box containing ashes still qualify as a HUM shipment?

Martijn

Here in the UK the normal advice is that a customs declaration from the Crematorium is sufficient. This declares that the urn contains ashes and nothing else. Have never met the scenario of them going in the hold, relatives are always very keen to take them as hand baggage. Always use a plastic screw top urn, as they are both x rayable and virtually indestructible, plus the lid is secure.


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