Hmm, interesting. If someone wants to go through the trouble, they can restore the flight deck and have an excellent flight simulator set up. I know one place in Toronto that has it done on an ex-UA aircraft, IIRC.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5490 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16767 times:
Darn. For a second there, I thought you were talking about the Gimli Glider.
Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
ACKattack From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15713 times:
Since this was a major news story and thus will most likely become part of remembered US history, the Smithsonian should purchase, or receive as a donated for a tax write off for the donating company, the fuselage and display it or the whole the cockpit area. This would be to honor and remember the "Miracle on the Hudson"
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16941 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15396 times:
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2): Darn. For a second there, I thought you were talking about the Gimli Glider.
IIRC, that aircraft is now proudly serving beer...
ZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3259 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14999 times:
Quoting ACKattack (Reply 7): Since this was a major news story and thus will most likely become part of remembered US history, the Smithsonian should purchase, or receive as a donated for a tax write off for the donating company, the fuselage and display it or the whole the cockpit area.
I note that AIG is the insurer. That being the case I think the taxpayers already own the thing and AIG should just give it to the Smithsonian as partial payback for the bailout......
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Making a low flypast at YUL on its retirement flight to the desert in January 2008. Both pilots who flew it on it's famous 1983 flight were aboard as passengers for it's last flight...actually 2nd last, as I believe it stopped at TUS to clear customs before continuing to MHV.
Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2005 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13796 times:
Quoting JetBlast (Reply 9): If I remember correct the Smithsonian does not purchase items in their collection - they are all donated. Correct me if I am wrong.
Various museums under the Smithsonian's heading have certainly made purchases, including some fairly substantial ones, over the years. But most stuff is donated or loaned. I don't know what the general policy is (other than don't spend money), but I suspect the right artifacts could get paid for in the right circumstances.
But why they'd want to pay for a beat up A320 I don't know - I really don't think it's *that* historic.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5490 posts, RR: 13 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13726 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11): as I believe it stopped at TUS to clear customs before continuing to MHV.
That's one heck of an out-of-the-way customs station. SLC, SFO, or even LAS would've been better.
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16941 posts, RR: 57 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12709 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
I think it's still stored at MHV, and it's still registered to AC in the Canadian aircraft registry.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5962 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12589 times:
Quoting Lemmy (Reply 14): "The aircraft was treated with a corrosion inhibitor in the Summer of 2009."
So, ummmm ... yeah. Totally flyable.
LOL, one must wonder if there's an AirlineFax report available for that MSN (something akin to the CarFax history report here in the USA that one would get before purchasing a used car...)
I can imagine the Trade-A-Plane ad now,
"A320-214, gently used in scheduled air carrier service, 20,000 hours, 20,000 cycles, 20,000 takeoffs and 19,999 landings logged. No engines included in sale, needs updated interior, repairs to minor belly skin damage, and D-check".
Hey, I should be a salesman
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
Dw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1245 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11660 times:
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 12): But why they'd want to pay for a beat up A320 I don't know - I really don't think it's *that* historic.
Would make a nice replacement for that big plastic A320 cockpit they have. Display as is or repair to new. Frankly, I could see Airbus buying it, parting out salvageable components, and restoring the cockpit for display in DC.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 864 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11315 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 17): repairs to minor belly skin damage
Minor belly skin damage?? This airplane was gutted like a fish! You also failed to mention several dozen boat 'dings' and river silt in the instruments. I don't think I'll be buying my next airplane from you, KELPkid.
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2093 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11138 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 19): Yeah, what's the deal with Canadians and running twin-engined jets out of fuel?
Well, sheesh - any eejit can fly a plane with two or even one engine. You'll note that whenever we take a Boeing or an Airbus for a glide, we always fly it away once we top up the tanks. Can your man Sully say that?
But the Panamanians have us beat - they one-upped us by landing on a grass levee. Show-offs.
The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
Tu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 667 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11059 times:
It should be put back together at put on display at the Intrepid museum. After all, it landed right beside it!!!!!
CEOs should swim with cement flippers!
25 Viscount724: That 737-300 double engine flameout in heavy rain and hail near MSY in 1988 involved TACA (El Salvador, not Panama). http://aviation-safety.net/datab
26 LimaNiner: So what are we looking at in terms of $$$, here? Hundreds of $k? Single-digit millions? More? Less?
27 Trnswrld: Is that A320 available for anyone just to walk up and see? Is it still in New Jersey?
28 Scotland1979: I totally agree. Intrepid is by the Hudson River where A320 landed. Less costs to transport A320 from New Jersey. I think alot of people are not fami
29 Threepoint: My bad. That's whatcha get by relying on memory and not doing a cursory search before posting. I was thinking of Copa. Less. The value of the scrap a
30 Max777geek: Me too. This beats Sully. The most famous glider in the world is still the Gimli
31 Tugger: It's probably blasphemy to many here but I say cut it up into pieces and sell 'em! Some small ones for key chains and "good luck" trinkets, some larg
32 CHRISBA777ER: Surely the Intrepid museum will buy it. Especially if its five figures to buy. Question is, they restore and patch her up and then set her on a raft f
33 Soon7x7: I'll bet this carcas will sell at $40,000 to a scraper...the expense of hauling it to the scrapyard alone is a big nut even if the scraper has his own
34 Kevinasaurus: We like to show off our flying abilities I guess!
35 Borism: Absolutely! Interpid is the best home for it. But where would they put it? I have an idea... No need to restore. What they should do is to place her
36 Farzan: Now here's a smart guy. If that would ever happen I would visit that museum next time I am in New York area for sure.
37 N1120A: The US Airbus is well beyond repair, but I still don't get why the Gimli Glider isn't in a museum. Shame on AC for that.
38 Soon7x7: I thought of the Intrepid as well but would see them taking only the fin and mounting it to a stantion somewhere near the Concorde. I doubt the Intre
39 KELPkid: Air Canada has motivation to not preserve a monument to a near disaster....I would not be suprised, though, if it somehow got flown to MZJ and joined
40 Birdwatching: Awsome, those photos of the inside of the cabin. So that's what a couple of days of Hudson water will do to a cabin interior. Looks a lot like a Ryana
41 JettaKnight: Is there any truth to the rumor that there were more bodies in it when they raised it than when it sank?
42 Viscount724: Airlines don't want to remind customers of their near-disasters.
43 Soon7x7: USAirways will tout this as testimony to their excellent pilot training since their were no fatalities...and after all...it was an "act of God"...j
44 DocLightning: Woah, what did THAT? The impact with the water, or dragging on the bottom?
45 SXDFC: Whats with Us Airways and parking their planes in the water around LGA every decade? This traditon seems to date back to 1989: 20-September-1989 US A
46 JMackey: Were there any salvageable parts that US could take back into inventory ? I have heard that is often done.
47 StoliBabe: How bout making some form of display out of it on the pier where the Intrepid and Concorde are?dl Certainly an appropriate spot considering that the p
48 Birdwatching: Are you sure? Then why did they have to throw away every part, down to the smallest screw, of the Etihad A340-600 they crashed into a wall at TLS som
49 Ferengi80: Got me thinking when I saw this, would have been great to have the world's most famous gliders all in a museum together... C-GAUN - AC143 Gimli Glider
50 Viscount724: Since you mentioned the BA9 incident, should also add KL867, the KLM 747-400M Combi operating AMS-ANC-NRT in December 1989, when all 4 engines flamed
51 N1120A: How about reminding their passengers of the heroics of their incredibly talented flight crews?
52 Viscount724: Well, in AC's case, the pilots (at least the captain, not sure about the first officer) were subject to disciplinary action (temporary suspensions if
53 C5LOAD: Well, if someone like Trump or Warren Buffett or another multi-billionaire REALLY wanted to fly it again, theoretically, could it be done at whatever
54 Moose135: It never dragged on the bottom of the river, that is mostly impact damage - if you see any of the security camera films of the impact, you'll underst
55 JFKMan: wow...how I would love to be able to roam around that beautiful piece of history.
56 David T: I noticed the website from this post no longer has any information related to the aircraft. In addition, if you go on the aig aviation website, salvag
57 Vctony: I'd venture to say that they got a number bogus bids as several blogs and news organizations found out about the sale. They're probably trying to res
58 Spacecadet: It's an AIRCRAFT CARRIER, people! Sheesh! It has a gigantic, mostly empty hangar. Much of it is not even used, IIRC - it's just blocked off to keep p
59 MrSkyGuy: If I hear one more mention of "Sully" as the man of the day, I'm going to scream. Last I checked, the front office had required seating for two.. both
60 KELPkid: Welcome to my RU list! How many hours did it take to come up with that?
61 Viscount724: You must have overlooked the "A320 update" link in the "News and Announcements" section at the top of your second link above.
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