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User currently offlineN92R03 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 352 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Saw a weather report that showed gusts at 62 knots in La Jolla, from the southeast, got me wondering how SAN will handle this. Sounds like easterly departures tonight. Forecast is for 25kts, with gusts to 50knts. Not much better at LAX, the radar had a lot of red/orange. It looked more like Florida in the summertime than Southern California. Anyone know of any strange diversions?

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-airport-warning,0,1138240.story

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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6645 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Don't know of any diversions for today, Wednesday 20Jan.

On Monday, jetBlue had two EMB-190s divert from LGB to LAX, presumably due to weather.

The777Man



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2897 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2649 times:



Quoting The777Man (Reply 1):
jetBlue had two EMB-190s divert from LGB

Which routes do the E-190s fly for B6 (from LGB) these days?



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6645 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

[quote=SurfandSnow,reply=2]Which routes do the E-190s fly for B6 (from LGB) these days?

Not sure; AUS ?

The777Man



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26013 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Cant say the weather has really effected ops too much. Certainly not even close to how weather systems on the East Coast wreck the operation.

Only real issue I know of was some diversions from PSP(Westjet, AA, Skywest) as the airport has high minima and the cloud base precluded approaches for a while, and also the runway configuration at BUR caused some fuels stops for carriers as they could not takeoff at higher weights.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26013 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Phoenix operations being effected.

Quote:
Flights Canceled at Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport

Flights into and out of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport were expected to stop Thursday afternoon because of high winds from a winter storm.

Southwest Airlines said it was canceling all operations at the nation's 10th-busiest airport as of 2 p.m. MST (4 p.m. EST). The exact number of Southwest flights affected wasn't available, but the airline has 173 daily nonstops from Phoenix to 44 cities and additional service to 22 cities, said spokeswoman Olga Romero. There are a similar number of arrivals.

US Airways was trimming its flight schedule and had canceled 14 mainline and 12 US Airways Express flights. Other operations were continuing as weather allowed, said airline spokeswoman Valerie Wunder. US Airways has 265 daily departures from Phoenix. United Airlines and other operators also curtailed their operations.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9626785

Additionally SWA has ellected to cancel many flights at SAN, SNA ONT and BUR between 1-6pm, plus additionaly flights at Tucson.



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User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2397 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
Phoenix operations being effected.

Actually, they are being affected.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4844 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
Additionally SWA has ellected to cancel many flights at SAN, SNA ONT and BUR between 1-6pm, plus additionaly flights at Tucson.

I had the option to stay home today. I'd rather not be on the roads. It's crazy out there. Last I heard, all flights out of SAN cancelled. They are hoping to get the RONs in later tonight.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4056 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
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Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 2):
Which routes do the E-190s fly for B6 (from LGB) these days?

SEA, SFO, AUS, ORD.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2897 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 8):
ORD.

So is the LGB-ORD route doing that bad where it has been downgraded from 2x daily A320 to daily 320 and now just a lone 190 flight?? Honestly, when B6 came to ORD, I figured they would do extremely well. Indeed, they have added BOS since then, but both JFK and LGB have been reduced from their initial five and two flights, respectively. I always thought B6 could capitalize on its network strengths on the coasts and in Florida to offer a competitive flight schedule and build a mid-continent focus city, if you will, serving not just BOS, JFK, and LGB but also MCO and FLL (gateways to the Latin American network, and excellent O&D on both sectors as well), IAD (AA doesn't even fly there from ORD), BUR (nobody flies there from ORD, and B6 seems to be very popular there), OAK (after UA dropped it, East Bay fliers can't get to ORD nonstop), possibly even EWR, SEA, PDX, SMF, SJC, ONT (B6 would have to return first), SAN, SLC, AUS, MSY, PBI, TPA, RSW, NAS, CUN, or SJU.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4056 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
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Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 9):
So is the LGB-ORD route doing that bad where it has been downgraded from 2x daily A320 to daily 320 and now just a lone 190 flight?? Honestly, when B6 came to ORD, I figured they would do extremely well. Indeed, they have added BOS since then, but both JFK and LGB have been reduced from their initial five and two flights, respectively. I always thought B6 could capitalize on its network strengths on the coasts and in Florida to offer a competitive flight schedule and build a mid-continent focus city, if you will, serving not just BOS, JFK, and LGB but also MCO and FLL (gateways to the Latin American network, and excellent O&D on both sectors as well), IAD (AA doesn't even fly there from ORD), BUR (nobody flies there from ORD, and B6 seems to be very popular there), OAK (after UA dropped it, East Bay fliers can't get to ORD nonstop), possibly even EWR, SEA, PDX, SMF, SJC, ONT (B6 would have to return first), SAN, SLC, AUS, MSY, PBI, TPA, RSW, NAS, CUN, or SJU.


SurfandSnow, B6 has been operating LGB-ORD with a single E90 for over two years now!!!! They did this when they decided to expand further @ LGB and needed the slots to start the new service. This is very old news and when I've taken the flight, it seems to do very well otherwise, I don't think they would've kept it around!!


User currently offlineCatIII From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3067 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1938 times:



Quoting UALWN (Reply 6):
Actually, they are being affected.

Isn't that what he said?

Any int'l diversions from the Asian/European inbounds?


User currently offlineDc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1884 times:



Quoting CatIII (Reply 11):
Isn't that what he said?

Nope, UALWN was correcting a common spelling error.

That said, I wonder how many disruptions we would've had on the East coast for the same storm system..? Would there be similar disruptions? I think ATL has a somewhat severe line of storms move in yesterday, but don't know any details.


User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

I've lived here pretty much my entire life, and I've got to say that this week's storms are some of the worst I've ever seen for Southern California. We had zero zero showers that were so heavy at one point I ended up yelling across the house just to be heard. My backyard has a lovely pool.. yet I don't recall ever having a pool installed. And yes, I'm talking feet of water.. not inches.

Top that with serious gusts of wind, and .. I'll be.. it's an actual storm! I heard some homes just north of us (in the Ventura County area) experiences water spouts of mini tornadoes which tore off rooftops. This sort of thing just doesn't happen here very often. I also think LAX set a new record for low barometric pressure.

I'd be interested to know what it's like landing at SNA or BUR in this sort of weather, with the small safety margins those short runways provide.



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User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 666 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1700 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 10):
SurfandSnow, B6 has been operating LGB-ORD with a single E90 for over two years now!!!! They did this when they decided to expand further @ LGB and needed the slots to start the new service. This is very old news and when I've taken the flight, it seems to do very well otherwise, I don't think they would've kept it around!!

You might want to get your facts straight. As a B6 employee at LGB I can tell you that our single ORD flight has been operated by A320s and only operated the E190 to ORD as a through flight to JFK when the E190 was new to LGB.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Here in Tijuana the storms keep rolling in one after the other. An AeroMexico Connect RJ skidded off the runway yesterday on a flight from Hermosillo. The plane sustained light damage and no one was seriously injured.

User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

I was on KL's service out of SFO to AMS on Thursday. SFO was more or less closed for inbound traffic the entire afternoon, I guess due to capacity constraints in combination with poor visibility? Anyway most European inbound flights were diverted to Oakland yesterday afternoon. Then most flights hopped over the bay late in the afternoon. KL 606 left with a 3 hour delay to Amsterdam, similar to other European bound services.

On Tuesday I arrived on NZ in Los Angeles, despite the storm we landed on time. Our connecting flight to SFO on UA was subsequently delayed by three hours (waiting inside) the aircraft as movement around SFO was restricted due to the weather. Upon arrival it looked as if many flights were delayed heavily.


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

I live right by LAX and there was a severe thunderstorm warning last night and yet planes were taking off and landing like usual...crazy...


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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4056 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1497 times:
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Quoting Icebird757 (Reply 14):
You might want to get your facts straight. As a B6 employee at LGB I can tell you that our single ORD flight has been operated by A320s and only operated the E190 to ORD as a through flight to JFK when the E190 was new to LGB.

My deepest apologies to you Icebird757. I did take the E90 to ORD from LGB 2 times. I know my a/c. They were afternoon departures. As I remember your LGB-ORD flight was a 320 when it first began as when I went to book it I was surprised to see it was not being used on the route.


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