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Why Is AB Using A330-300 On TXL-NUE?  
User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 720 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

Hi guys,

does anyone know why AB maintains a hub at NUE including operating A330-200/300 flights to holiday destinations, but flies in these aircraft from other German airports like TXL?

Quite regulary the first TXL-NUE flight (dep. 6:00) as well as the last NUE-TXL of the day (dep 20:40) are operated on A330 equipment. In between these positioning flights, the plane operates on the route Nuremberg-Egypt-Nuremberg. From a relative who uses the flight to get to NUE I know that it is totally empty (AB uses Dash-8 or A319 on the TXL-NUE route otherwise), so obviously there is way not enough demand to explain a widebody hub-to-hub service.

So, what else is the reason for this?

Tobias


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2894 times:
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I can imagine that there are agreements signed with some tour-operators...

It is serving holiday with great demand destinations as Tenerife South (on Monday), Lanzarote (on Friday), Santa Cruz de la Palma (on Wednesday) and other cities...

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

As you've said yourself, it's the very first (resp. very last) flight of the day to/from NUE and in between the plane flies to Egypt, so in fact AB are simply positioning a TXL-based A330 to NUE for the flight to Egypt, replacing the regular DHC8 service....

Must be that the flights from NUE to Egypt need a widebody plane, so they position it from somewhere else, in this case TXL....

Happens a lot really, especially with charter operators, the only interesting thing here is AB is also a regional airline and thus actually sells tickets on the 'positioning' leg...


User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Yeah, but why isn't the plane based in NUE instead?


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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

Like SLZ396 said, these are positioning flights.

The AB 330 must be based in TXL, but is needed on some days to operate the NUE-Egypt flights.

Operating a normal Dash or A319 on the flight and sending the 330 as empty positioning would be a huge extra cost. Why fly a normal plus an empty flight? That's why they combine the flights, the 330 is flying there anyway.



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User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2817 times:



Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 3):
but why isn't the plane based in NUE instead?

Because they don't have a full schedule for this plane at NUE on EVERY day of the week?

I mean, they now position it TO NUE on some days, so if it would be based in NUE it might have to be positioned FROM NUE on some other days, so what's the difference really?

Besides, basing a single plane at NUE is going to proof costly: who's going to do line maintenance on it for instance? Better have it based where they have full technical facilities for this type (and where there are more than one A330 based)...


User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

Air Berlin has 10 A330-200 and 3 A330-300. How many of them are currently based at DUS, MUC, TXL?


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