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CO 2010 / 2011 Delivery Schedule (787s)  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 12381 times:

CO just updated their 2010/2011 fleet plan, highlights;

2010

1st Qtr:
3 757-300s

2nd Qtr:
2 777-200ERs, 8 737-800s

3rd Qtr:
1 737-800

4th Qtr:
2 737-900ER

2011

1st Qtr:
2 737-800s

2nd Qtr:
4 737-900ERs

3rd Qtr:
1 737-800, 4 787-8

4th Qtr:
2 787-8

Also 6 Q400s in 2010, and nine in 2011.

That's 8 new wide bodies in the next two years, plus 18 737s and 3 757-300s entering the fleet. Even with the 3 737-300 and 3 737-500 leaving the fleet that's still nice growth.

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...ntinental_8k_2010_012101.pdf#fleet


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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2649 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12148 times:

According to Air Fleets, CO has 43 739s and 117 738s or 739s being 36% of the 738/739 total fleet. The additions you show have 33% 739 of the total 737NG additions. Maybe CO like the percentage of about 1/3 739s of the combined 738/739 fleet.
I would think 739ERs wouldn't cost that much extra and provide more seats at a lower ASM cost. Of course, you need to figure in purchase cost, landing fees and fuel burn vs. the added revenue potential.


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12112 times:

Impressive growth indeed. Can't wait to see the 787s in IAH.

On a side note, I just flew to HNL on CO in the 764. Very nice airplane. How long will the 764s remain in the fleet??



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User currently offlineCoalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12016 times:

Nice 6 New Widebodies in one year im sure they will start flying them to Intl destination come spring time of the following year or sooner!!!

User currently offlineCoalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11981 times:

Isnt CO suppose to get 3more 777 in 2011? or did they cancel the remaining 777 and turn them into 787 orders?

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11944 times:



Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
1st Qtr:
3 757-300s

New 757-300? Thought the 757 line had been closed?



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11911 times:



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 2):
How long will the 764s remain in the fleet??

Many many years. The 764s aren't even 10 years old yet.

Jeremy


User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 11843 times:



Quoting Captaink (Reply 5):
New 757-300? Thought the 757 line had been closed?

These are the late ATA birds I believe. I think ATA's are ETOPS as well.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11797 times:



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 7):

These are the late ATA birds I believe. I think ATA's are ETOPS as well.

Ah ok.. Good to see they will have a home. Seems like CO is loving these 753s.



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11777 times:



Quoting Coalways (Reply 4):
Isnt CO suppose to get 3more 777 in 2011?

As of Dec 31st 2009, CO had four 77Es ordered, two of which, as the OP confirms, are scheduled for 2010 delivery. Given the fleet plan in the OP, it certainly looks likely that CO may cancel the latter two 77Es for 787s. CO have canceled four 77Es during 2009.



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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11745 times:



Quoting Captaink (Reply 8):
Good to see they will have a home. Seems like CO is loving these 753s.

They do, especially now that they're receiving winglets on them. The 753 has the best CASM in it's seat class. It seats about what a 763/A300 does and weighs a lot less cost a hell of a lot less to operate. Only problem with the 753 is deplaning...  crowded 



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User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1051 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11726 times:

CO has 11 788's on order - pretty impressive that they'll take 6 in one year. They mist have snatched up all the cancelled or delayed (DL?) deliveries. Will they take the other 5 in 2012?

When will 789's be available?

Although the Boeing website just removed one 77E, one must figure the other two are to be cancelled at somepoint. Either way, in Feb that would have to be listed in the 10K.


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11699 times:

Sad to hear about the 77E cancellations... those birds could definitely be used.

On the flip side, having 6 new 788s in the fleet by the end of 2011 will be great. I'm assuming these birds will first fly the EWR-IAH-LAX proving runs, and then move onto opening up new longer range routes.

Hopefully we'll see them in IAH to expand into Asia... I could definitely see IAH-PVG or IAH-PEK working with connections through Air China and *A.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11620 times:



Quoting Cba (Reply 12):
I'm assuming these birds will first fly the EWR-IAH-LAX proving runs, and then move onto opening up new longer range routes.

EWR-MCO and EWR-IAH-LAX would be my guess, that's the original 777-200ER schedules.



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User currently offlineN7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11436 times:
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Quoting EA772LR (Reply 7):
These are the late ATA birds I believe. I think ATA's are ETOPS as well.

Affirmative. Continental is taking the remaining (4) ATA Boeing 757-300's stored at Victorville for nearly two years. One or two is/are already in the fleet. I believe one is in the process of being refurbished in Asia, leaving one more still stored at VCV. My information could be a few weeks or month behind. Continental will operate all 12 ATA 753's.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11235 times:



Quoting N7371f (Reply 14):
Affirmative. Continental is taking the remaining (4) ATA Boeing 757-300's stored at Victorville for nearly two years. One or two is/are already in the fleet. I believe one is in the process of being refurbished in Asia, leaving one more still stored at VCV. My information could be a few weeks or month behind. Continental will operate all 12 ATA 753's.

1 already joined the fleet, the 2nd is about to join the fleet any day now. The third had an engine shut down on departure the other day from Guam on it's way to Hong Kong for conversion.


http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/ind...d=50:homepage-slideshow-rokstories



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11136 times:
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so with two 777 coming on board this year, what can we expect CO to do with them?

- upgrade IAH-CDG and then move the 764 elsewhere?

- upgrade EWR-BRU and then move that 764 elsewhere?



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2415 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11065 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 16):
so with two 777 coming on board this year, what can we expect CO to do with them?

The two new 777s coming in will allow CO to add some much-needed capacity in longhaul markets this spring/summer. In addition to IAH-FRA going 777 (which is happening), I wouldn't be shocked to see at least some of the following:

EWR-BRU back to 777
perhaps one South American route to 777 (pick IAH-GIG/GRU/EZE)
2nd EWR-FCO frequency (CO42/43) to 764 from 762
EWR-TXL/BCN to 762
LAX-HNL back to 752 or 753
4th EWR-LHR frequency with 752 (seasonal to cover for loss of CLE-LHR)
EWR/IAH-GRU to 764

At present, CO will have 43 peak-day flights from the US to Europe, including TLV, with 38 from EWR and 5 from IAH.


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11026 times:

I keep hearing rumors from CO cabin crew that there may be a nonstop EWR-BLR soon. Do any of these deliveries indicate that?

Thanks.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10992 times:
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Quoting Comorin (Reply 18):

it was stated by VP of Europe Jim Summerford that additional India routes are wanted, I dont know if that would still be on the top of the horizon right now.

I'm not sure of a 777 being upgraded on the south american routes only b/c of the amount of ground time in those cities with a route requiring basically 2 a/c.



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User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10960 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 19):

Thanks. I guess until the aviation boom returns this is a back burner issue.

btw, what is your best guess on the first 787 routes in 2011?


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3979 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10952 times:
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Quoting Comorin (Reply 20):
btw, what is your best guess on the first 787 routes in 2011?

wow........hard to say. EWR/IAH-ICN?? IAH-PVG/PEK pending more China routes awarded.



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User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1051 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10909 times:



Quoting Comorin (Reply 18):
I keep hearing rumors from CO cabin crew that there may be a nonstop EWR-BLR soon. Do any of these deliveries indicate that?

CO uses their a/c very wisely. The routes would have to fully use 2 a/c or be paired (like NRT>EWR>LHR). CO said deep India routes were the plan initially, followed by S. Pacific. With only six a/c and the substitution issues, I'd guess they'd only start two route that are using 2 a/c like EWR>BLR and a couple of routes that a 772 could sub for until they get the teething worked out. Deep India makes sense due to the timing of the deliveries in Q3/Q4 and the seasonal spike of those routes.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10543 times:
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Quoting EA772LR (Reply 10):
They do, especially now that they're receiving winglets on them. The 753 has the best CASM in it's seat class. It seats about what a 763/A300 does and weighs a lot less cost a hell of a lot less to operate. Only problem with the 753 is deplaning

I agree! The 753s are great a/c to use stairs vs. jetways to deplane. I can't imagine what it's like to sit in a fully loaded one in the very back!
I was surpised with the amount of power the 753 has when I flew it a couple of times on IAH-LAX. It seemed to be just a powerful as the 75Ws.

Will we see a/c upgauges to more Star Alliance hubs in Europe? I.e., ZRH?

What are passengers impressions of flying the 75W on EWR-LHR? I've been very interested to know considering all the competition flies much larger equipment.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11439 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9854 times:
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Quoting CODC10 (Reply 17):
perhaps one South American route to 777 (pick IAH-GIG/GRU/EZE

Considering that now the sole 764 route is IAH-GIG and is rotate with FRA-IAH (in general IAH-GIG uses the 764 from FRA) i would bet IAH-GIG could become 772 (it's oil to oil market, much more interesting) and we can see IAH-EZE or even EWR-GRU become EWR-GRU-GIG with B764, or even 2 routes to Europe that uses B762 being upgrade to B764.



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25 FlyIGuy : I doubt that will happen since they moved out of skyteam they will have minimal connections now with AF. I can see a 777 from IAH-FRA however with th
26 CODC10 : It's already in the schedule, effective 6/1 - 9/15.
27 CALMSP : even though there is no codeshare, doesn't mean that we can't fly a 777......it can still work.
28 MAH4546 : Nobody applied for the 28 frequencies that become available in less than two months; another 14 next March; and yet another 14 free frequencies March
29 CALMSP : responded incorrectly. didn't mean to say that in 2011 CO will be flying new China routes, just indicating those might be some of the new destination
30 DeltaL1011man : Delta has only dropped two slots. Slot 2 and 3. The next slot, 22, is still Delta's. I don't believe CO wants any of the "fat" planes.
31 CODC10 : Will this make CO the first North American operator of the 787? CO placed its 787 order in late 2004 (during the last days of Bethune's leadership),
32 Manfredj : When I was a student in Florida, the "proving routes" for new aircraft like 764 and 753 were IAH-MCO. Will the 787 be the same way for a few months?
33 EA772LR : Well if flying in Y, there's not gonna be a noticeable difference in flying the 752 vs. a wide body in Y, other than the obvious much smaller cabin.
34 FlyIGuy : Why waste a 777 on IAH-CDG when it can be put on a better utilized, more profitable route? Just my 0.02
35 LACA773 : That's very true. I was just thinking of what their competition offers and comfort wise, I think we all can agree, we apreciate the space a widebody
36 CALMSP : how do we know that IAH-CDG isn't a profitable route for CO???
37 STT757 : Here's the routes that I believe if CO had the additional frames would be flying 777-200ERs; EWR-BRU, EWR-FRA, EWR-CDG, IAH-CDG, IAH-FRA.
38 Shaq : IAH-GIG is a real success ! CO should use these new aircraft to enter African market. Who knows , IAH-LOS can be a huge, high-yielding market PS: My f
39 MAH4546 : I know, I was just pointing out how it will be very easy to grab new China routes. It will basically turn into "apply and approve" in 1-1.5 months ab
40 LipeGIG : What about IAH-LAD to launch regular flights oil to oil market! Welcome to A.net ! All of them are 764 routes now ?
41 FlyIGuy : I agree with Shaq, CO should start IAH-LOS and I guarentee that will be a huge money maker !!! Just my 0.02
42 Blueman87 : not to be off topic but what about delta 787-9 did they cancel them officially
43 AznMadSci : I still wonder if IAH-DXB is placed high on the wish list or will they allow EK to be the main carrier once the 788s arrive in the CO fleet.
44 CALPSAFltSkeds : How about the used 777-200 thread that was out there several months ago. 4 777-200s (non- ER would be OK) for IAH-HNL, HNL-GUM and maybe HNL=EWR & HN
45 Laxboeingman : That is good information, thank you. Where is CO getting the 757-300s from, I thought that Boeing did not make the 757s any more? laxboeingman
46 Drerx7 : ATA birds that have been sitting idle.
47 AznMadSci : If they had done this, I wonder if those 772s would only have BF between doors 1 and 2, as well as expanding the BF section between doors 1 and 2 in
48 CALPSAFltSkeds : One would think they would have a Pacific configuration (fewer BF/more Y) on those 777s and standardize the 764s to the majority of which have a Euro
49 WesternA318 : With my doubts about the 787, I'd say my version of the ideal proving run would be IAH-HOU. Just my cent...
50 STT757 : Yes. DL has not ordered the 787-9, they have 787-8 on the books. You would need them for GUM-NRT 2x daily, GUM-HNL and GUM-IAH.
51 Blueman87 : i meant the inherited ones sorry
52 SXDFC : There is one thing that I am still trying to understand with CO. Since they are getting the 787-8's, what does this mean for the future of the 762's?
53 DeltaL1011man : unless its 21 it will be a heavy frame. Most of the carriers that had these frames have traded the slots. ANA picked up some of them. I would say its
54 Cslusarc : I'm surprised that DL hasn't given the public any information when they expect to receive this 787-8. I do expect that it will be sometime in 2011 an
55 Post contains links STT757 : Anyone know the status of the last three former ATA 757-300s CO is taken delivery of?.. Ship # 870 entered service back in late December, ship # 871 w
56 IAHcsr : Ship 871 is even now east bound from HKG to IAH ... Via GUM and HNL and should be available for revenue service come Feb 1st... Don't know if 860 has
57 The777Man : Thanks for the update ! Will start looking our for 871 in a few days. The777Man
58 Post contains links STT757 : Thanks, found it; http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA3172
59 Post contains images TZTriStar500 : Sheesh, the local media was a bit over dramatic here I also found this in the article amusing "...the plane had recently been purchased by Continenta
60 IAHcsr : Ship 871 arrived IAH early today, and I believe it's first $$ flight was to DEN. Ship 860 is still sitting in GUM, and 862 is in HKG commencing it's C
61 STT757 : Thanks for the update.
62 DeltaL1011man : Is Co starting the LiveTV mods for these aircraft now or are they waiting?
63 Post contains images The777Man : So perhaps IAH-LAX later this evening The777Man
64 Post contains links STT757 : They are waiting, the Livetv mods are done in MCO. These aircraft are going straight into service with CO after their conversion in HKG. CO is instal
65 STT757 : How can I track them, I put in their Reg #s on Flightaware and nothing.
66 Post contains links CALPSAFltSkeds : Without inside data, it takes looking through a combination of Flight Aware and CO PDA or flight status, which both show the aircraft number. The PDA
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