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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 15962 times:

As a follow up to the news no. 2, Brazilian Aviation News # 2 (by LipeGIG Oct 9 2009 in Civil Aviation)

INFRAERO has released full year 2009 traffic (pax) information for the Brazilian airports.

Top 35 Airports

(airport name/2009 traffic/2008 traffic/percentage growth)

1. GRU-São Paulo-Guarulhos (SP) --- 21.607.303 --- 20.400.304 --- +5,92%
2. CGH-São Paulo-Congonhas (SP) --- 13.659.398 --- 13.672.301 --- -0,09%
3. BSB-Brasília (DF) --- 12.213.825 --- 10.443.393 --- +16,95%
4. GIG-Rio de Janeiro-Galeão (RJ) --- 11.796.413 --- 10.754.689 --- +9,69%
5. SSA-Salvador (BA) --- 7.063.087 --- 6.042.307 --- +16,89%

6. POA-Porto Alegre (RS) --- 5.607.703 --- 4.931.464 --- +13,71%
7. CNF-Belo Horizonte-Confins (MG) --- 5.566.779 --- 5.189.528 --- +7,27%
8. REC-Recife (PE) --- 5.249.831 --- 4.679.457 --- +12,19%
9. SDU-Rio de Janeiro-Santos Dumont (RJ) --- 5.040.424 --- 3.628.766 --- +38,90%
10. CWB-Curitiba (PR) --- 4.853.733 --- 4.281.354 --- +13,37%

11. FOR-Fortaleza (CE) --- 4.211.399 --- 3.465.791 --- +21,51%
12. VCP/CPQ-Campinas-Viracopos (SP) --- 3.364.245 --- 1.083.878 --- +210,39%
13. VIX-Vitória (ES) --- 2.342.283 --- 1.988.447 --- +17,79%
14. MAO-Manaus (AM) --- 2.307.423 --- 2.021.668 --- +14,13%
15. BEL-Belém (PA) --- 2.201.439 --- 2.153.508 --- +2,23%

16. FLN-Florianópolis (SC) --- 2.107.528 --- 2.080.342 --- +1,31%
17. NAT-Natal (RN) --- 1.881.580 --- 1.643.369 --- +14,50%
18. GYN-Goiânia (GO) --- 1.694.303 --- 1.554.000 --- +9,03%
19. CGB-Cuiabá (MT) --- 1.671.704 --- 1.396.164 --- +19,74%
20. MCZ-Maceió (AL) --- 1.115.686 --- 957.744 --- +16,49%

21. SLZ-São Luís (MA) --- 984.756 --- 870.784 --- +13,09%
22. CGR-Campo Grande (MS) --- 982.610 --- 835.034 --- +17,67%
23. IGU-Foz do Iguaçu (PR) --- 807.540 --- 766.444 --- +5,36%
24. AJU-Aracaju (SE) --- 727.366 --- 669.777 --- +8,60%
25. PLU-Belo Horizonte-Pampulha (MG) --- 598.360 --- 561.189 --- +6,62%

26. JPA-João Pessoa (PB) --- 598.003 --- 448.444 --- +33,35%
27. NVT-Navegantes (SC) --- 593.900 --- 395.743 --- +50,07%
28. LDB-Londrina (PR) --- 572.717 --- 507.876 --- +12,77%
29. UDI-Uberlândia (MG) --- 570.900 --- 500.652 --- +14,03%
30. PVH-Porto Velho (RO) --- 561.331 --- 426.470 --- +31,62%

31. THE-Teresina (PI) --- 557.798 --- 466.034 --- +19,69%
32. RAO-Ribeirão Preto (SP) --- 473.200 --- 428.163 --- +10,52%
33. MCP-Macapá (AP) --- 469.836 --- 493.999 --- -4,89%
34. MEA-Macaé (RJ) --- 374.379 --- 385.651 --- -2,92%
35. STM-Santarém (PA) --- 364.615 --- 386.160 --- -5,58%

Top 6 in percentage growth

(airport/2009 traffic/2008 traffic/percentage growth)

1. VCP/CPQ-Campinas-Viracopos (SP) --- 3.364.245 --- 1.083.878 --- +210,39%
2. NVT-Navegantes (SC) --- 593.900 --- 395.743 --- +50,07%
3. SDU-Rio de Janeiro-Santos Dumont (RJ) --- 5.040.424 --- 3.628.766 --- +38,90%
4. JPA-João Pessoa (PB) --- 598.003 --- 448.444 --- +33,35%
5. PVH-Porto Velho (RO) --- 561.331 --- 426.470 --- +31,62%
6. FOR-Fortaleza (CE) --- 4.211.399 --- 3.465.791 --- +21,51%

Bottom 6 in percentage growth

(airport/2009 traffic/2008 traffic/percentage growth)

1. STM-Santarém (PA) --- 364.615 --- 386.160 --- -5,58%
2. MCP-Macapá (AP) --- 469.836 --- 493.999 --- -4,89%
3. MEA-Macaé (RJ) --- 374.379 --- 385.651 --- -2,92%
4. FLN-Florianópolis (SC) --- 2.107.528 --- 2.080.342 --- +1,31%
5. BEL-Belém (PA) --- 2.201.439 --- 2.153.508 --- +2,23%
6. IGU-Foz do Iguaçu (PR) --- 807.540 --- 766.444 --- +5,36%

Rgs,

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User currently offlineJpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15967 times:

Interesting numbers...

The incredible increase for VCP of course is due in large part to being chosen as Azul's hub, but the growth in many of the others is impressive indeed.

I can tell you that the additional 21 % at my hometown airport, FOR, is noticable almost every time I'm there - that place is crowded! There's talk of expansion of the terminal for 2014 Copa but no signs of anything happening as of yet.

PS. Thanks for opening thread #3. Number #2 was getting unwieldy.


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4070 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 15889 times:

Thanks!

I am surprised to see RAO in the list, not because of size, but because it is not managed by Infraero. Or has that changed?

Also this is the preliminary data and is subject to some adjustment in the next few weeks.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15874 times:



Quoting Incitatus (Reply 2):
I am surprised to see RAO in the list, not because of size, but because it is not managed by Infraero. Or has that changed?

The list above includes airports under INFRAERO and DAESP. Maringá-MGF which is also not handled by INFRAERO comes as 38th with 319.386 pax (+47.10%). At 39th is São Paulo-Campo de Marte (SP) had 269.498 pax (+15,94%) and at 40th is São José do Rio Preto (SP) with 303.466 pax (-0,30%). IOS-Ilhéus (BA) with 361.378 pax (-8,38%) is 36th and RBR-Rio Branco (AC) with 325.365 pax (+7,54%) is 37th.

As we are speaking about DAESP airports, GOL will start on 01 February 2010 CGH-BAU (Bauru) 5 weekly.

G3 1060 11h30 CGH 12h25 BAU
G3 1061 13h30 CGH 14h22 BAU

Plus AZUL new destination will be GYN (3 daily) and Caldas Novas 1 weekly (from 14 February 2010).

AD GYN 07:15 VCP 08:45
AD GYN 11:40 VCP 13:05
AD GYN 19:55 VCP 21:15

AD VCP 09:40 GYN 11:10
AD VCP 18:06 GYN 19:25
AD VCP 21:45 GYN 23:15

AD4196 VCP 12:30 CLV 13:50
AD4197 CLV 14:20 VCP 15:40

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15857 times:
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Thanks for the info.

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
1. STM-Santarém (PA) --- 364.615 --- 386.160 --- -5,58%
2. MCP-Macapá (AP) --- 469.836 --- 493.999 --- -4,89%
3. MEA-Macaé (RJ) --- 374.379 --- 385.651 --- -2,92%
4. FLN-Florianópolis (SC) --- 2.107.528 --- 2.080.342 --- +1,31%
5. BEL-Belém (PA) --- 2.201.439 --- 2.153.508 --- +2,23%
6. IGU-Foz do Iguaçu (PR) --- 807.540 --- 766.444 --- +5,36%

A small correction to include CGH as number 4

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
CGH-São Paulo-Congonhas (SP) --- 13.659.398 --- 13.672.301 --- -0,09%



Quoting Jpyvr (Reply 1):
The incredible increase for VCP of course is due in large part to being chosen as Azul's hub, but the growth in many of the others is impressive indeed.

Yes but this will be different in 2010. I expect VCP to open 3 or 4 new markets out of VCP, including BEL and CGB, but to begin a new hub, that could be in Belo Horizonte or Recife considering capacity. Plus i also expect more point-to-point routes in markets as SSA and SDU. VCP shall grow 10-25% this year.
It's just way much than current capacity specially now that VCP will handle international passenger flights again with 3x weekly TP service to LIS.


Some more news:

TAM got approval for 2 more services connecting GRU and the northeast

JJ3316 GRU 2010 NAT 2315
JJ3317 NAT 0700 GRU 1025

JJ3320 GRU 1115 SLZ 1445
JJ3321 SLZ 1545 GRU 1915

- Tam asked also for BSB-CGR eff. Feb 22
BSB 1130 CGR 1300
CGR 1340 BSB 1507

- TA asked ANAC to use larger airplanes on LIM-GIG. Currently they use the A320, and now they asked to use the A321. This might give them the flexibility in all Brazilian routes as POA and GRU also have such right. TA currently flies 10x GRU 7x GIG and 3x POA

- DL asked ANAC to suspend LAX-GRU eff. Feb 28.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15845 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
TAM got approval for 2 more services connecting GRU and the northeast

JJ3316 GRU 2010 NAT 2315
JJ3317 NAT 0700 GRU 1025

JJ3320 GRU 1115 SLZ 1445
JJ3321 SLZ 1545 GRU 1915

Interesting development. The GRU departure at 2010 will use prime slot time at the airport. This will be TAM 4th daily GRU-NAT nonstop flight (GOL also flies the route nonstop twice daily), and TAM second daily nonstop GRU-SLZ (GOL does not offer GRU-SLZ nonstop).

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
Yes but this will be different in 2010. I expect VCP to open 3 or 4 new markets out of VCP, including BEL and CGB, but to begin a new hub, that could be in Belo Horizonte or Recife considering capacity. Plus i also expect more point-to-point routes in markets as SSA and SDU. VCP shall grow 10-25% this year.

I agree AD will further boost its presence in SDU with flights such as NVT-SDU. I dont know whether SDU has become slot restricted, but otherwise SDU will certainly become another important hub for AD. Currently POA, CWB and SSA are AD strongest markets outside VCP.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
TA currently flies 10x GRU 7x GIG and 3x POA

GIG will be downgraded to 5 weekly from March 2010. GRU and POA will continue with 10 and 3 weekly flights respectively.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
DL asked ANAC to suspend LAX-GRU eff. Feb 28

I am not surprised. DL should codeshare with the KE-operated flight.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
A small correction to include CGH as number 4

Thanks.

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15834 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 5):
Interesting development. The GRU departure at 2010 will use prime slot time at the airport. This will be TAM 4th daily GRU-NAT nonstop flight (GOL also flies the route nonstop twice daily), and TAM second daily nonstop GRU-SLZ (GOL does not offer GRU-SLZ nonstop).

And one more to use prime remote slot as there's no gate available. One more to fight for buses and the small rooms that now handles even GRU-LHR B77W flight more than 350 passengers. Gol does not fly GRU-SLZ because their focus is to use GIG for such routes, like GIG-THE and GIG-SLZ. Could be like that and we will see better divisions and use of the structure available.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 5):
I agree AD will further boost its presence in SDU with flights such as NVT-SDU. I dont know whether SDU has become slot restricted, but otherwise SDU will certainly become another important hub for AD. Currently POA, CWB and SSA are AD strongest markets outside VCP.

NVT-SDU is a route that will happen in 2010 for sure. SDU is more slot restricted and AD will not be able to develop a big there. I expect SDU to get 1 or 2 new AD routes in 2010, as well as routes like SSA-MAO. But i can see REC or CNF as a new secondary AD hub.
AD project is to have point-to-point routes, and up to 2014 we can expect them to fly routes like CWB-FOR, MAO-CNF, CWB-MAO and others.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 5):
GIG will be downgraded to 5 weekly from March 2010. GRU and POA will continue with 10 and 3 weekly flights respectively

Why they asked to ANAC on Jan-18 for 7x weekly A321 service effective Feb 21 ?



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15833 times:

More news -

KL's Martinair cargo upgraded AMS-VCP to 4 weekly MD-11F. This is a new route which has just opened late in 2009.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Why they asked to ANAC on Jan-18 for 7x weekly A321 service effective Feb 21 ?

According to online schedule the route shows 5 weekly from March 2010. Perhaps they will operate A321 5 weekly compensanting for decrease in frequency.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
One more to fight for buses and the small rooms that now handles even GRU-LHR B77W flight more than 350 passengers

JAL B747 also uses remote during Summer. During Winter it has gate allocated. They should send AF to operate in remote instead, this could give pax a taste of CDG  

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
NVT-SDU is a route that will happen in 2010 for sure

My fingers are crossed.

Rgs,

[Edited 2010-01-23 10:03:28 by hardiwv]

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15818 times:
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About MIA route mentioned by MAH4546 on the #2 thread, AR got the rights for a 2x weekly POA-MIA flight with their A340

As a small note.
Brazil (FLN, GRU, GIG and SSA) will see OpenSkies B752 next month during Beyoncé trip to to play in Florianopolis (1), Sao Paulo (1), Rio de Janeiro (2) and Salvador (1).

F-HAVI (12J 72W)

31/01/2010: Ferry Flight ORY 1000 EWR 1730
01/02/2010: Flight EC201 EWR 1900 PTP 2305 0005 FLN 0705
05/02/2010: Flight EC202 FLN 1300 GRU 1410
07/02/2010: Flight EC203 GRU 0600 GIG 0700
08/02/2010: Flight EC204 GIG 1600 SSA 1755*
11/02/2010: Flight EC205 SSA 1100 EZE 1535
13/02/2010: Flight EC206 EZE 1300 SCL 1510
15/02/2010: Flight EC207 SCL 1400 LIM 1735
17/02/2010: Flight EC208 LIM 1230 POS 1710
19/02/2010: Flight EC209 POS 1300 EWR 1815
20/02/2010: Ferry Flight EWR 0000 ORY 0700

* To be changed probably to 09/FEB because of the 2nd show



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15757 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
- DL asked ANAC to suspend LAX-GRU eff. Feb 28.

Aloha Lipe!

I am heading back to Rio next month and was looking into taking DL's LAX-GRU flight. Is it still operating? I have looked on their website and it shows the flight in the interactive route map, but when I put in several dates during the last week of February, the flight is no where to be found. Might it already be suspended?

On another note, does anyone have any idea how the new USair CLT-GIG flight is performing load wise? Just curious.

HALFA



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15754 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 9):
I am heading back to Rio next month and was looking into taking DL's LAX-GRU flight. Is it still operating? I have looked on their website and it shows the flight in the interactive route map, but when I put in several dates during the last week of February, the flight is no where to be found. Might it already be suspended?

KE operates LAX/GRU 3 weekly with the B772 and is fully operational. KE is now examining a possible change in schedule to red eye. You need to select the specific days the flight operates in order to be able to book online on korenair.com or you may also select 'flexible dates'. KE LAX/GRU can be booked up to 12 months from now on koreanair website. In fact, I have a friend from SFO who yesterday booked this same flight from end of March.

On the other hand, your problem may be because KE LAX/GRU end of February is heavily booked, dates such as 19 and 22 are sold out. You may need to search for alternative dates.

Rgs,

[Edited 2010-01-23 13:42:49 by hardiwv]

User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15744 times:

Thank you Hardi, but I am referring to Delta Airlines, not Korean. According to Delta's website, they show that they have a nonstop flight from LAX to GRU but when I try to book it, I cannot find it.
As you know, I have already flown on Korean's LAX to GRU flight. I was hoping to try Delta to compare the two.

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15730 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 11):
Thank you Hardi, but I am referring to Delta Airlines, not Korean. According to Delta's website, they show that they have a nonstop flight from LAX to GRU but when I try to book it, I cannot find it.
As you know, I have already flown on Korean's LAX to GRU flight. I was hoping to try Delta to compare the two.

I see, sorry  Wink . As per info above provided by Lipe the flight is operating until 28 February. As per Amadeus.net, the last DL flight operates LAX-GRU on 26 February and DL GRU-LAX on 27 February (some days in February are fully booked).

Rgs,


User currently offlineKlkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 948 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15678 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 11):
According to Delta's website, they show that they have a nonstop flight from LAX to GRU but when I try to book it, I cannot find it.

It's only three days a week. Maybe you were looking on one of the dates it doesn't operate.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 15648 times:
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Quoting HALFA (Reply 9):

I am heading back to Rio next month and was looking into taking DL's LAX-GRU flight. Is it still operating? I have looked on their website and it shows the flight in the interactive route map, but when I put in several dates during the last week of February, the flight is no where to be found. Might it already be suspended?

Aloha Halfa !
It was expected that DL would suspend the service after the busy iata winter season. It could be the case they decide to remove it a week before. But they requested to ANAC to remove the slots.
Let me know the dates when you will be in Rio as i'm planning vacations for mid-february to the first week of March, going on JJ JFK-GIG service, and just for a few days i will be out to a short visit to SCL and Buzios area.
Try CO IAH-GIG service even being the fact that is very hard to get Business but a little easier to get Y.

Quoting HALFA (Reply 9):
On another note, does anyone have any idea how the new USair CLT-GIG flight is performing load wise? Just curious.

AFAIK, up to now, in January, around 90%. It should stay on mid-80's up to the end of February. March and ahead should reach 70's
But on J/C, loads are always very high, and almost every day the cabin is full.



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15531 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 264):
TAP has not announced VCP, this is only speculation.

It's been announced, just not bookable yet. Starting in July, 3x weekly.
http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?section_id=13&id_news=430585
http://www.opcaoturismo.com/noticia.php?id=183368
http://www.presstur.com/site/news.asp?news=23417
I'd qualify that as an announcement  Smile


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 15452 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 8):
AR got the rights for a 2x weekly POA-MIA flight with their A340

Is this to be a year-round service? Any idea on start date?



a.
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 15394 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 16):
Is this to be a year-round service? Any idea on start date?

Seems to be.

Schedule:
AR1304 POA 0230 MIA 0630
AR1305 MIA 1620 POA 0340 0510 EZE 0555

Has been approved effective January 15, so it's just waiting for AR launching.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 15389 times:
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Another interesting info. expected planes to be recived by TAM:

Airbus 319

PT-TMB c/n 4163 jan/2010
PT-TMC c/n 4171 jan/2010
PT-TMD c/n 4192 fev/2010
PT-TME c/n 4389 jul/2010

Airbus 320

PR-MYG c/n 4320 jun/2010

Airbus 321

PT-MXF c/n 4352 06/2010
PT-MXG c/n 4358 06/2010

Airbus 330

PT-MVS c/n 1112 05/2010
PT-MVT c/n 1118 06/2010

Thanks to Contato Radar forum.

TAM will have 4 A332 in 06/2010 without allocation !



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User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1786 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15278 times:

According to this post on Flightglobal from Mary Kirby, TAM has hired Priestmangoode to refurbish the interiors of its entire fleet and to design the interiors of incoming B773s and A350s:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/ru...am-is-busting-out-with-new-ai.html

At the bottom it also says that TAM currently offers email and texting through the IFE system on international flights. Is that accurate, and if so is it a good value?


User currently offlineVbeltraJJ From Brazil, joined Apr 2007, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15225 times:

Another info came from an announcement from TAM's vice president (or president, I am not sure) that we will see a flight from Rio to Europe this year which will use probably two of those 4 available A330. As TAM will join Star Aliance this year, I bet that they will create a GIG-FRA-GIG to use Star's most important european hub.

Regards,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15215 times:
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Quoting VbeltraJJ (Reply 20):
Another info came from an announcement from TAM's vice president (or president, I am not sure) that we will see a flight from Rio to Europe this year which will use probably two of those 4 available A330. As TAM will join Star Aliance this year, I bet that they will create a GIG-FRA-GIG to use Star's most important european hub.

That will be fantastic. GIG-CDG is not taking care of demand right now, got very high loads on Business and for sure it needs a second flight to Europe from Rio.,
GIG-FRA will be a fantastic addition to Rio de Janeiro as well as a very profitable route for TAM and LH (which i believe will code-share).
Hope another one will be used on GIG-JFK to become daily.

Next is a GIG-LHR in 2011

So it seems the idea of using A332's on GIG-MIA has been declined.



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3736 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15212 times:



Quoting VbeltraJJ (Reply 20):
TAM's vice president (or president, I am not sure)

It was the Commercial and Planning Vice-president, Paulo Castello Branco.

Here is the link: http://www.mercadoeeventos.com.br/sc...&pStrLink=3,26,0,53785&IndSeguro=0

FRA has been a major hole in GIG's network since VARIG's bankruptcy. It's poised for success.


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3736 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15217 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 21):
So it seems the idea of using A332's on GIG-MIA has been declined.

They are most probably having trouble getting rid of them. I'm not really bothered by them though. As long as JJ keeps expanding at GIG, they are welcome to stay.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15148 times:
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Quoting C010T3 (Reply 22):
FRA has been a major hole in GIG's network since VARIG's bankruptcy. It's poised for success.

Agreed, and it's a shame if TAM do not connect Rio to Star largest and most valuable hub in Europe. Rio and Germany will say thank you and this will be for sure TAM's best performer on the network.

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 23):
They are most probably having trouble getting rid of them. I'm not really bothered by them though. As long as JJ keeps expanding at GIG, they are welcome to stay.

I agree with you, but they can always start new flights with the B763 like BOG or even GIG-MXP. After having said a second flight to MUC from Sao Paulo is better than the first one from GIG to Germany, is nice to see the obvious that Rio to Germany is better than a 4th flight to Sao Paulo, specially with LH code share and access to Asia. Very smart decision.
Seems that finally GIG will be on LH Oil map !
To be perfect, CO can apply for EWR-GIG  Smile

And now in 2011 lets expect that Rio-London problem be solved with more flights !

I was taking a look on the events for 2010 in Rio and never seems so busy ! Just in September after the big Rio Oil & Gas 2010 there will be 6 different congress in the city, all taking advantage of the fact Rio is the true energy capital of Latin America.



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
25 Matheus : Sorry to get back to the first post topic, but I think 2010 will be the last year of this 2 digits growth on the Brazil's main airports. There are no
26 C010T3 : There is enough space at GIG...
27 LipeGIG : That's true and GIG still allow many planes to stay on the gates rather than remote positions. With the T2 complete, a new level of comfort will be p
28 Voar : Is there any talk at all of a new terminal at GRU? The airport is ridiculously overcrowded as is.. I can't even imagine what will happen at world cup
29 LipeGIG : Yes there is, but time is coming faster. I believe will be ready by the first quarter of 2014. World cup plan do not focus on a single airport as now
30 VbeltraJJ : Lipe, Do you really believe we will have a revolution on the air travel until 2014? I am asking that because as you already stated we do not see any i
31 AAEXP : We Brazilians (and our hopeless inefficient and corrupt politicians) better get this one right. If we let this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity (to impr
32 Hardiwv : Things are completely out of track. There is no guarantee GRUT3 will be ready on time and the renovations made in GIG so far are laughable. A recent
33 AAEXP : I am afraid (actually, make that I am sure) you are right... From the most recent visit by "inspectors" to GIG to see the progress on Terminal 2 the
34 VbeltraJJ : Thanks for the complementary info C010T3. And for the rest, let's just prey and wait to see if we will use this chance to improve something in Brazil
35 LipeGIG : Not a revolution in the sense of the word. What i expect is that, with big bootle necks, the only alternative will be to launch point to point flight
36 Post contains links Incitatus : Webjet is catching the eye of specialized media: http://www.anna.aero/2010/01/29/webj...an-market-share-in-just-two-years/ The article rightly says th
37 Hardiwv : You may add that Webjet is owned by CVC the biggest travel group in Latin America which had 20% (?) of its shares recently sold to US Carlyle Group b
38 C010T3 : WH is no longer owned by CVC, because of foreign ownership regulations. WH was split from CVC and is still owned by the previous owners of CVC. The C
39 LongHaul67 : There is no doubt that GIG and GRU are in a really bad state and urgently need major renovation. Especially T1 at GIG leaves a lot to be desired. Wha
40 C010T3 : They are newer terminals. It's as simple as that.
41 Hardiwv : Thanks for the complete information and in fact Carlyle deal kept Webjet out of the CVC shares acquistion. The previous head of INFRAERO, for which a
42 C010T3 : I'm sorry, but about which one are talking about? There were several.
43 AAEXP : Carlos Wilson from PT?
44 C010T3 : AFAIK he was president of Infraero for three years from 2003-2006, long after most new Northeastern terminals were inaugurated.
45 Hardiwv : Carlos Wilson was the President of INFRAERO from 2003-2006 (first Lula administration) and his management was plagued with corruption and favouritism
46 C010T3 : MCZ's new terminal was paid by the government of Alagoas. I was only once in REC and that was in 2000. I remember very clearly of having used the new
47 Post contains links Hardiwv : Carlos Wilson was responsible for the new REC airport and also responsible for REC expansion (again, another expansion???)...and for the access highw
48 AAEXP : The Secretary-General of FIFA, Gerome Valcke has warned Brazil to get its airports in order for the World Cup in 2014. The sad state of our airports i
49 C010T3 : OK, Hardi is right, though I really think that the Northeastern airports deserve a good infrastructure, but of course not at the expense of other reg
50 LipeGIG : Yes they leave, but in my view, GIG T1 at least is not so worst as two years ago. The big problem with Brazilian airports, specially the internationa
51 LipeGIG : Back to news. New flight requested to ANAC eff. March 04 JJ 3392 A320 Daily GIG 23:10 JPA 02:10 JJ 3393 A320 Daily JPA 03:00 GIG 06:00 And one relocat
52 C010T3 : Let's not forget. JJ 3430 daily 320 POA 1800 GIG 2000 JJ 3431 daily 320 GIG 1520 POA 1720 POA regains full connectivity to TAM's international networ
53 Hardiwv : Besides the general infrastruture which remains weak, one major issue to be addressed is connectivity between terminals although airlines do provide
54 C010T3 : During the IATA Winter it's taken care of by Gol with the 21:20 flight, since the AF flight arrives at 19:20, but in the Summer, when it arrives at 1
55 Post contains images AAEXP : Agree, I just wanted to press you on the issue of corruption and competence Carlos Wilson is a good example of the kind of politician that Brazil doe
56 LipeGIG : That's very good news ! What will be the use for such A320 between 0700 and 1520 ? We can so expect two more flights like GIG-POA-GIG in the morning
57 Hardiwv : Another good development is that finally TAM B77Ws were fitted with the new F class and GRU-FRA already offers F class and from 5 February GRU-LHR wil
58 LipeGIG : No doubt about how strong is G3 at GIG. I see a lot of chances of more G3 services Rio-South, mainly now that G3 will see TAM trying to regain market
59 Hardiwv : TAP long-haul numbers in the holiday month of January 2010 (note that January is low season for business/corporate travel), as usual special reference
60 LipeGIG : Very impressive numbers ! Incredible that the worst route to/from Brazil (LIS-NAT) reach 83% loads ! Also interesting to see that the 5th worst route
61 Hardiwv : It seems NAT did quite well. As you said, very good numbers for TAP in Brazil. Lets wait and see how TAP does in VCP after the flight is implemented
62 LipeGIG : I expect good results out of VCP. They will be the sole player from Campinas area to Europe and many people will realize the advantage it may deliver
63 Post contains links Hardiwv : I think TP should keep MPM because this is a market with no competition. JNB is highly competitive. It seems the only long haul route TP is bleeding
64 AF086 : Qatar Airways requested ANAC flights for GRU and EZE: QTR921 - DOH ETD 0300LT - ETA GRU 1700LT - ETD GRU 1840LT - ETA EZE 2130LT - Daily - 77L QTR922
65 C010T3 : I think that deserves its own thread.
66 SJOtoLIR : Here is the comprehensive list related to the AF's code-share operation with GOL on selected domestic Brazil service: ...................Route........
67 LipeGIG : Thanks SJOtoLIR to bring interesting news about AF network in Brazil. Interesting how they manage to balance the network. IGU become exclusive market
68 hardiwv : In fact AF cooperation with G3 will serve it well because of G3 extensive presence in GIG. More codeshares are expected since important markets such
69 LipeGIG : I believe all of them goes better with Sao Paulo. There's more MAO and GYN service from there as well as there's no CGR up to now, out of GIG.
70 hardiwv : More news. Trip finally got approval from ANAC for its new South Brazil flights - Eff. 01 March 2010 5611 GRU 20.15 - 21.40 JOI 22.10 - 22.30 NVT dial
71 LipeGIG : There's more, the detail is that, flights will be performed with ATR42 5510 GRU 0845 IPN 1030 1045 GVR 1100 1115 VIX 1205 ATR42 5511 VIX 1635 GVR 171
72 SJOtoLIR : Aerolineas Argentinas is transferring service to Rio de Janeiro [21x weekly] and Sao Paulo [25x weekly] from Buenos Aires Ezeiza [EZE] to Aeroparque J
73 LipeGIG : That was quick ! Any news if POA will also see it's service transferred to AEP ?
74 Incitatus : Yes, POA is going too.
75 LipeGIG : News for today: G3 asked to ANAC to cancel SDU-SSA-SDU daily service (G3 1270 and G3 1271) eff. March 10 G3 also asked to ANAC to cancel GRU-BPS-GRU 2
76 LipeGIG : These are the schdeduled services out of AEP. Seems that GIG will got a new flight from Buenos Aires becoming 4x daily AEP-GIG with a 5 and 10 AM depa
77 hardiwv : January 2010 market share in Brazilian domestic aviation market - TAM 42.8% GOL 41% Webjet 6.7% Azul 5% OceanAir 2.2% Trip 1.6% Domestic load factor w
78 LipeGIG : Load factor per carrier Azul - 90.19% WebJet - 88.01% Ocean Air - 78.68% Gol - 77.32% Tam - 75.77% Trip - 67.25% Passaredo - 56.95%
79 hardiwv : Very interesting numbers. Azul continues doing extremely well with all flights operating completely full. I guess Azul must have dealt with a lot of
80 LipeGIG : We just need to remember it's January, the second busiest month in many markets and top one in others. Brazil is really booming, and for Carnaval, Sa
81 hardiwv : This will continue beyond the busy holidays of January and February. March is also looking very busy with a lot of advance bookings. GIG handled for
82 HALFA : This must explain why the air fares are so expensive to Rio from Los Angeles. After a big drop in fares over the past 18 months, fares are close to $
83 hardiwv : No, I am still in AMS! When are you back to AMS? Correct. Fares have increased across the board (see KE fares for example LAX-GRU). Europe-Brazil far
84 LipeGIG : I know, i'm having trouble to got a seat on TAM service from JFK. After what happen yesterday with AA (i'm still in Miami area after 4h of delays on
85 HALFA : Can anyone here tell me if Azul or Webjet fly from any airport in Sao Paulo to any airport in Rio De Janeiro? Are there any carriers besides TAM and G
86 C010T3 : Azul flies VCP-SDU, while Webjet flies GRU-SDU. Yes, Oceanair flies CGH-SDU.
87 HALFA : Thank you!! This was very helpful. I just looked at WebJet's website and they have a flight from GRU to SDU that would connect well with my inbound K
88 C010T3 : I guess you could, but availability is another story. I guess there will be. Yes, they are. I just realised that I forgot to mention that Oceanair al
89 LipeGIG : Halfa, fares can go from R$ 95 to R$ 500 easily, specially on peak days/times. I strong recommend you to book in advance.
90 HALFA : Lipe, I tried to book and pay for an ocean air flight from GRU to SDU. It was only R$ 119,62 with all taxes and fees but after I filled out all of th
91 C010T3 : I think you mean CPF.
92 Post contains images HALFA : Yes, that's what I meant. Do you have one that I can borrow?
93 C010T3 : It doesn't work that way. It has to match the credit card details just like the zip code in the US.
94 HALFA : I realize that, I was joking. Would you have understood the joke if I had put rsrsrsrs in my post?
95 Post contains links hardiwv : Oceanair and Webjet offer very convenient service between GRU and SDU. I myself have used Webjet several times to connect from KL AMS-GRU to SDU and
96 HALFA : Does decolar.com.br issue "E" tickets or must I pick up a paper ticket somewhere? I will only have less than two hours if I arrive at GRU from LAX at
97 hardiwv : Decolar issues e-ticket. But then again I am not sure whether they ask for CPF and they dont have English option. OceanAir and Webjet counters are no
98 incitatus : Infraero published an updated table. CNF and POA traded places. CGR and SLZ traded places. GYN and CGR only significant updates.
99 Post contains links and images hardiwv : Thanks for the interesting update. For 2010 I expect SDU to overtake REC and FLN to overtake BEL. I saw the below recent photo of GRU terminals and ap
100 LipeGIG : And we will see more 1 or 2 updates. Now 21 airports over 1 mm ! Great improvement.
101 hardiwv : All airport of the Centre-West region are above 1 million! I will answer my own question: the construction near T1 remote area is an expansion of the
102 SBGLexpat : I thought that was actually the expansion of the cargo/remote apron and it's associated taxiways. Regards.
103 Post contains links hardiwv : Could be. Perhaps it is an expansion of the remote area plus taxiway... Lisbon (LIS) airport operator released its top 30 international destinations
104 LipeGIG : I would say, the major Center-West airports.
105 hardiwv : This is correct, Lipe. Domestic aviation market showed strong boom in 2009 and I think 2010 will not be different. In certain degree the rapid expans
106 LipeGIG : A small side note, i got the chance to board on the new refurbished area of GIG TPS1 and i have to say, the general impression is that it's another ai
107 Post contains links hardiwv : I am not so sure, Lipe. But I hope you are right. I am following the below discussion - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=778168&pag
108 Post contains links and images LipeGIG : If you see my pictures , i didn't have time to post all of them, believe me, TPS1 is different now. Looks like another level of airport and do not re
109 Post contains links and images hardiwv : In late December it was still horrible. And if you look at some close ups...as some say it looks like a sauna or bathroom of bus stations... I am rea
110 Post contains links OP3000 : Came across this release from Gol predicting an 18% year-over-year increase in traffic within the Brazilian market: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha
111 Post contains links and images LipeGIG : Hardi You're showing an old area, not completed yet, with old parts. Part of the domestic terminal in which improvements need to be made with the term
112 Post contains links hardiwv : Ok, Lipe. I will see it with my eyes. The above photo I posted (from Skyscrappercity) brings a close up of the type of material they are using in the
113 AAEXP : I think this may be a case of lip stick on a pig........
114 hardiwv : Exactly. This is why I always advocated for complete demolishment of GIGT1 so that a proper terminal is built. Or instead they could have gone ahead
115 AAEXP : hardiwv, I am concerned that this approach may be very symptomatic for how many people think Brazil can get "around" fixing part of the existing infr
116 AF086 : Gol requested today to ANAC regular flights to SDQ as follows: GLO 7626 2-4-6-- B738 GIG 0900 GRU 1000 1105 CCS 1700 1740 SDQ 1930 GLO 7627 2-4-6-- B7
117 LipeGIG : THanks both of you guys. Hardi, i agree with you that the semi-circle terminal is a layout for the 70's not for 2010. Can't be like that for GIG T1 u
118 Post contains links hardiwv : Thanks for the flight overview. Very interesting. I am sure GOL will steal a lot of traffic from Copa which is strong in the Dominican Republic and i
119 Post contains images AAEXP : Just a shame that none of this will be ready for 2016. That's really a bummer..... [Edited 2010-02-26 09:44:58]
120 SBGLexpat : Could not avoid commenting on the above: I don't think such an extreme measure is necessary; a good project could use the main building structure and
121 HALFA : Thank you again for this tip! I flew on Delta Airlines from LAX to GRU yesterday and upon arrival, walked over to the Ocean Air ticket office in term
122 hardiwv : Great to hear it worked out for you. SDU has an excellent terminal and to reach Zona Sul is very convenient. Infraero should have invested the resour
123 LipeGIG : All depends on Infraero ! We can't expect state of the art facilities because: a) sites are not big enough for it. The modern concept is a big termin
124 Post contains images SBGLexpat : Here's the original project: And now the new one: I don't see why there's no room for growth in the site. Regards.
125 SJOtoLIR : The following are the announced operations in Brazil for the US summer break on Continental Airlines and dated from June 09th till August 30th: CO IAH
126 LipeGIG : I agree with you. Just need to say that besides being probably one of the hottest airports in the entire Infraero system, they never think to put a/c
127 SJOtoLIR : The last information has been extended to American Airlines and Delta Air Lines: American Airlines AA DFW-GRU............7x weekly 777 + 3x weekly 76
128 LipeGIG : We can add United IAD-GRU-GIG - 7x weekly B772 ORD-GRU - 7x weekly B772 And seven frequencies remain...unused. Plus the new kid on the block: US Airea
129 Post contains images SBGLexpat : Lipe, are you refering to the "split" air conditioning units we can see on some columns close to the ceiling in some of the pics you provided? I'm su
130 LipeGIG : Yes, but i was trying to talk about the gate, as many times people complain about how hot they are. Not to the terminal area. It's only during the wo
131 LipeGIG : TAM announced extra flights to MCO, due to travel agents request JJ 9354 GRU 1430 MCO 2210 A332 JJ 9355 MCO 0145 GRU 1135 A332 June 29 and 30 July 1,
132 C010T3 : They are temporary for the duration of the renovations AFAIK. You mean the jetbridges.
133 hardiwv : Good to see AA operating MIA-GIG almost double daily. Next should be flying the B777 on the route thereby opening the possibility for F product. Good
134 Post contains images AAEXP : That is as true as can be.............
135 hardiwv : It is serious. If I am not mistaken SDU is the first or one of the first airports in Brazil and interventions in the main buildings are regulated by
136 AAEXP : Hardiwv, I was reading it as a reference to GIG (T1).......that's why I was laughing. You are right that the old building in SDU is a protected monum
137 LipeGIG : Still waiting for the approval. Should clear soon. As i mentioned on other discussion, my expectation was that 20JUN-15AUG should be the high season
138 hardiwv : Plus switch aircraft to B763 (if possible). Honestly, such strong seasonal route do not require 3-class aircraft. The problem is that premium demand
139 LipeGIG : effective March 12 lol, but numbers are from Infraero May be if they invest on the 763's to provide PTV and more comfortable seats on Business. I bel
140 SBGLexpat : Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now. I agree with that. I've used the jetways many times in the past and specially during the sumer time they
141 hardiwv : INFRAERO finally released January 2010 traffic numbers in Brazilian airports - Top 35 Airports (ranking position//airport//pax traffic in January//per
142 Rafabozzolla : Let's not forget that, apart from exceptions due to change in traffic patterns (VCP, GIG and SDU in particular), part of the strong growth is actuall
143 LipeGIG : What a growth ! I'm surprised and even begin to be in doubt about such numbers. I do believe 2.4 mm in GRU 1.1 mm in GIG, almost 1.2 mm in BSB, almos
144 hardiwv : This is not true anymore because BSB is now a multi-season airport because of hub connections and the city has developed in a way that it keeps deman
145 LipeGIG : 50% of the city airport is O&D and 50% are connections. Every January BSB is about 10 to 20% lower than the other months, Hardi. That's true, but
146 HALFA : They don't handle this growth very well. GRU has become a nightmare to arrive at and connect through. The immigration counters are very understaffed,
147 hardiwv : BSB population goes on holidays in January which increases traffic. BSB is the weathies city-airport in Brazil in terms of per capta income which lea
148 Post contains images LipeGIG : And will be even more as they begin to authorize flights on off-peak times. July seems to be a fantastic month for the movement in GRU but at the sam
149 hardiwv : 15% growth is nothing extraordinary, in fact below average. Of course, better than GIG which saw decline in traffic. The best of your choice is the o
150 LipeGIG : World Cup Charters - GRU JJ 9386 07/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332 JJ 9387 08/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332 JJ 9384 08/jun/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0840 A332 JJ
151 hardiwv : Very good development and the schedule of GRU operations is perfect avoiding peak times (it is about the same schedule of SA operations with afternoo
152 LipeGIG : The connections will come on hub bank times any way and therefore, using peak times, and GRU is getting very busy on non-peak due to domestic fights.
153 C010T3 : That's because BSB is capturing the connecting traffic that used to go through GIG. BSB's traffic grew very slowly from 2005 until 2009, exactly the
154 LipeGIG : Lets see if the country continue to grow... they will be obligated by the market to increase their presence at GIG and establish a major operation. I
155 hardiwv : Which is good because of the regional/domestic connections available in the airport. It will allow people to connect onwards to JNB. At some days the
156 C010T3 : LipeGIG only took domestic passengers and domestic aircraft in consideration, therefore your logic does not apply.
157 hardiwv : This was not mentioned in his statement. The ratio also hides yield information, the classical case of BSB and CGH or SDU, which are airports with hi
158 C010T3 : He did not, but I added that information, since I took the time to check the data.
159 Post contains links hardiwv : VCP/CPQ will continue growing. TAP confirmed VCP/CPQ-LIS 3 weekly starting in July 2010 provided conditions set by ANAC and INFRAERO are met. Yesterd
160 LipeGIG : This is good for TAM only. Even Sao Paulo lose with a crowded airport, and full domestic flights. They pay more for that. I'm sure there's demand for
161 Post contains links hardiwv : This is your opinion. I disagree and will not discuss. GRU remains extremely comfortable around the time TAM will open JNB service. This is the time
162 HALFA : I have noticed that GOL 767's have been mentioned here in this thread a few times. I have never seen a GOL 767 and I didn't know they had any. What r
163 AAEXP : I think that the references are to the old RG 767's.
164 hardiwv : GOL has a total 6 B767-300 ex-RG which have been iddle/grounded because in GOL view they are not cost effective for its current network. However, GOL
165 AAEXP : Hardi, do you know if then are planning to paint them in GOL colours or in RG colours?
166 Post contains links hardiwv : Currently they continue with RG colours. In my opinion GOL could make very good use of them in major domestic routes considering how strong the deman
167 LipeGIG : No one. Gol is the official airline for Uruguay and Paraguay teams. You may expect MVD and ASU charter flights to South Africa.
168 SJOtoLIR : Just out of curiosity, let's analyze carefully the situation in Brasilia. Based on Hardi's figures which are posted on reply 141, BSB was the second
169 LipeGIG : It's missing on the list CGH-BSB which use to be as big or bigger than GIG-BSB. As Hardi shows both SDU-CGH and CGH-SDU, one of them, the second, sho
170 Post contains images HALFA : Of course, sorry. Too man Caipirinhas in the rain this week. Aloha, HALFA in Rio and yes, it's still raining!
171 hardiwv : Interesting. But if GOL B767s are not ETOPS certified how would GOL fly Paraguay and Uruguay teams to South Africa? Maybe leasing other planes? There
172 LipeGIG : Yes they are ETOPS but not sure if they can cross the South Atlantic. What can happen is a detour to the north No one airport in Brazil holds service
173 C010T3 : No, you're mistaken. BSB doesn't have flights to BVB, MCP and AJU, while GRU is not linked to PVH, BVB, RBR, THE, PMW and MCP.
174 LipeGIG : BSB-AJU is a surprise to me ! So only BSB is connected to the whole center west and only GIG is connected to all capitals in the Northeast, and no on
175 Post contains links AAEXP : Here is an article (in Portuguese) from today's Jornal do Brasil about security and other concerns at SDU. Just another story indicating that a lot ne
176 LipeGIG : As something new, Air France will introduce Economy Premium on daylight services to Brazil. Both GIG and GRU will got the new class on the flights tha
177 Post contains images hardiwv : Thanks. MCP is linked to GIG (this is my favourite track flights: MCP-BEL-GIG-GRU-NVT). It connects NVT with GRU and GIG! I will fly GOL GIG-GRU-NVT
178 hardiwv : BSB is connected to BVB twice daily with 1 stop (TAM and GOL); AJU 3 daily with 1 stop (2 x TAM and GOL); and MCP 4 daily with 1 stop (2 x TAM and 2
179 C010T3 : One-stop services are not relevant, since what really important is the timing of the flights, not the destinations that are linked in each end. NVT-MC
180 hardiwv : Disagree. In a continental country such as Brazil, 1 stop service is relevant and still means hassle free travel without need of changing planes or m
181 SJOtoLIR : Thanks for your comprehensive analysis. I have a felling BSB may have an international expansion in the future from MIA, PTY or LIM among others and
182 LipeGIG : This is not non-stop. But if you consider 1 stop, yes. Thanks, you confirmed my information with a few more detail. Lets see what they will use at GI
183 hardiwv : I never said nonstop. I said air link. AF is implementing Premium Voyager in many routes served with the A332, A340, B772, B773. New routes with Prem
184 LipeGIG : I don't expect this because even EZE service they couldn't support. TAM moved the flight to GRU recently. To have BSB with more international service
185 Post contains links AAEXP : ANAC releases Brazilian (domestic and international) flight delay figures for February 2010: http://www.valoronline.com.br/?onlin...asos-de-voos-dimin
186 LipeGIG : As expected CM applied for a 3rd PTY-GRU flight CM724 B73G 1234567 GRU 0525 PTY 1136 CM725 B73G 1234567 PTY 2000 GRU 0400 Eff. June 30
187 LipeGIG : Ops .. another one (this is a domestic) Eff. Abril 03rd G3 1808 12345-D B738 GIG 2355 AJU 0230 G3 1809 12345S- B738 AJU 0200* GIG 0420 * The flight de
188 hardiwv : CCS will be downgraded by AF to A332 for Summer 10. This is the second time, from December 09 to January 10 it was downgraded from B747 to A332 as we
189 AAEXP : Privatization of Brazilian Airports is a Matter for the next Government: From oGlobo 05/03/2010 (in Portuguese) Ministro diz que concessões não ser
190 Dellatorre : BSB-AJU nonstop is served by O6 6221/20. Rgs, Neo
191 C010T3 : Thank you for the info. I missed that flight, since its HOTRAN is classified as "Especial" as if it were a charter operation or ferry flight.
192 LipeGIG : So not so premium as GIG and GRU that got 2 daily flights and an overnight one. As i mentioned, GIG is still one of the first ones to receive the A33
193 hardiwv : GRU, MEX, GIG , EZE, SCL and from Summer 10 even BOG (A343) are performing better for AF. CCS is the only Latin American destinations downgraded. (wel
194 LipeGIG : And CCS and EZE are facing the effects of local economy problems. Reasons are clear for me, but i let their own citizens talk about it. With more A38
195 LipeGIG : As we discussed on other thread, TAAG now allows checking the April schedule, and it shows LAD-GIG 4x weekly B772 and LAD-GRU 3x weekly B772. Go figur
196 hardiwv : Correct. I also expect change in SCL which was scheduled to change from B772 to B77W. More changes and perhaps more destinations (AUH already announc
197 LipeGIG : I can see a bigger demand to SCL. But in the case SCL does not get it, that's a good chance that GRU gots it. I do not expect it to happen to South A
198 AAEXP : Here is an update on the CGH slot distribution that ANAC conducted yesterday. It is from Valor Economico (09/03) and in Portuguese: NHT, Webjet e Azul
199 hardiwv : They will have negligeble impact in CGH because Azul could only get weekend slots while NHT got only 10 slots for weekdays and operates very small 19
200 robffm2 : A friend of mine (F/A on TAM's A330) just send me message telling me that they will start GIG-FRA-GIG. It has been discussed here for some time, but a
201 C010T3 : I do not think that JJ's flights to CDG will be impacted by this, but I see some minor impacts on TP's flights and on AF's daylight CDG-GIG. There wi
202 LipeGIG : A little impact Robffm. It's good to hear that more and more it's becoming true. There's a lot of Germany x Rio business going on and this week for e
203 Post contains links hardiwv : This was long awaited. I dont not think that it will impact services from other airlines, but most of the impact will be felt by AF GIG services. It
204 AAEXP : Brazilian ANAC to Require Brazilian Airlines to Classify Seat Pitch: From Valor Economico (10/03/2010) Anac lança selo para espaço entre poltronas A
205 LipeGIG : They asked yesterday 3x AEP-GIG and 3x AEP-GRU I'm surprised they come with a more limited network ! Correct. That's the list of the European countri
206 hardiwv : I always thought that the proposed flight schedule of AR to operate 4 daily AEP-GIG and 4 and 1/2 BUE-GRU was too much and I mentioned that in my opi
207 AAEXP : ANAC prohibits fuel surcharge on international tickets (and cargo) sold in Brazil: Valor Economico 11;03;2010 Agência proíbe cobrança de adicional
208 Post contains links hardiwv : Now is official, QR is due to start DOH-GRU-EZE B77L daily http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...archive/press-release-10Mar10.html Qatar Airways To
209 LipeGIG : That's why i use to say statistics to/from Rio to Asia are very bad. This number come without family members that could be around, and even without t
210 hardiwv : Lipe, the above are the well paid, intense-fly, jobs. Rgs,
211 Post contains links robffm2 : I'm just reading on mucforum.de that GIG might be sold to private investors. I don't remember reading here about it (it might be wrong though), but is
212 PPVRA : Both GIG and CPQ have been rumored. But we have seen nothing for some time, until more recently, when all they seem to be saying is that nothing will
213 hardiwv : As mentioned by PPVRA, this will not happen, and if the situation candidate wins the Presidential elections (Dilma Roussef of PT), she is very state-
214 LipeGIG : The first ones also. I have situations where these employees on plataforms make no less than US$ 8,000 a month, and many reach levels like US$ 15,000
215 hardiwv : And this sometimes means one-way or open return which drives ticket fare sky high! Rgs,
216 Post contains images LipeGIG : Exactly, that's why oil industry is always taken care by airlines with areas dedicated to them. It's a very high yield industry, and airlines that fl
217 Post contains links OP3000 : Gol reported a Q4 profit of ~ US$225 million, about 3 times what analysts had estimated. This was because of major tax deductions the airline got from
218 Post contains links hardiwv : Following the above than expected results for Q4 GOL has announced that its board of directors approved today the payment of dividends followed by a c
219 HALFA : I haven't flown with GOL since my trip to GYN almost 2 years ago. What type of Buy On Board items are they offering now? How much do they cost? Are t
220 Post contains links hardiwv : This is the menu: http://www.voegol.com.br/Informacoes...s/Paginas/servicodevendabordo.aspx Buy on Board has been piloted on flights between GRU, REC
221 Post contains links C010T3 : No, the only premium class offered is Premium Economy (called Comfort Class) to three destinations BOG, CCS and BUE (one daily only). Check it out at
222 Post contains links OP3000 : Gol doesn't have C/J, but on a few flights to neighboring countries it has this "Comfort" class which equates more to a Y+. Here's a description: htt
223 HALFA : Thanks for the links guys, interesting reading. So with GOL, I can either purchase a can of Guarana for R$ 3,00 or just ask for a cup from the large b
224 C010T3 : Yes, it doesn't make much sense, but that's how it has been described as it is.
225 AAEXP : Lufthansa is looking at reinstating GIG flights: From Valor Economico 12/03/2010 RIO - O forte aumento da demanda por parte de passageiros do Rio de J
226 AAEXP : Infraero to install temporary passenger facilities in several Brazilian airports to increase capacity: From Valor Economico 12/03/2010 RIO - Vários a
227 hardiwv : Indeed, many pax have their glass of Guarana from the bottle free,and would like another but may want more serving which means they will need to pay
228 Post contains images AAEXP : If you fly Azul, you get a whole can for yourself.....and a BIG bag of snacks....... for free
229 hardiwv : ...and you dont need to be shy to ask for another free can! Flying Azul you will also get the best onboard service, attentive and professional crew (
230 C010T3 : Yes, walking on the tarmac, which is a big bonus for aviation enthusiasts.
231 Dellatorre : OMG No comments......... well it is official now, it will be the Cup of puxadinhos.............. at least it's something brazilians have a trademark
232 Post contains links RodRB : TAM may fly GIG-FRA in July. http://www.brasilturis.com.br/direto...aredacao_materia.neo?Materia=11548 Mr Jose Soares, TAM's manager in Germany said t
233 incitatus : You know, that is not pretty but I like it indeed. If the surge in demand for the Cup is temporary, it should be dealt with using temporary and cheap
234 C010T3 : I'm sorry, but most airports are already having trouble coping with normal growth, building temporary facilities is surely not the way. You build som
235 LipeGIG : After LH assume yesterday in Rio that it represents 33% of the demand of their routes to Brazil i don't doubt anything. If we consider LH B744 + A343
236 Post contains images hardiwv : Very interesting, especially because the route is new and flown with B77W. Indeed, with the other bonus of seeing all the cargo traffic/planes one wo
237 OP3000 : Anybody have pics of this facility they say is already installed at FLN?
238 AAEXP : Passenger Rights Legislation Proposed by Brazilian Government: From O Globo 12/03/2010 RIO - Mais de três anos depois da crise aérea que paralisou o
239 AAEXP : Privatization of INFRAERO will not happen during this government: From O Globo 13/03/2010 BRASÍLIA - A abertura do capital da Infraero - a opção do
240 robffm2 : If all these claims are true we will certainly see quite soon a GIG-FRA flight. Whether that will be LH or JJ remains to be seen. I somehow doubt tha
241 LipeGIG : And also is the only route to Europe that now presents less capacity than in 2006. CDG, LHR, MAD, LIS, MXP/FCO, ZRH, AMS, all offer more seats now th
242 744lover : Hi there, Yesterday I arrived on AF 454 from CDG around 0700 AM at GRU and guess what: the immigration lines were a nightmare. I can not complain sin
243 AAEXP : Yes, that was how it was done in the "old days". Now the federal police usually enter some basic information (name/passport number) in the system and
244 C010T3 : What? Don't you remember how it was before 2008? Exactly, they used to just look at the photo or even the cover only. I used to love the days I only
245 hardiwv : Border control is Brazil is a big joke. I also realised that they have replaced the Federal Police agents with "outsourced agents" some of them handl
246 AAEXP : If I am not mistaken, most EU passports are not in compliance with the US requirements either or am I wrong? In any case (just so we don't have any d
247 OP3000 : Basically, all passports issued after the end of 2006 from any country must have an integrated chip (which they call e-passport) that contain certain
248 incitatus : I am in a agreeing mood, so I agree with that too. I never said sheds should be used in a permanent way. In places where we are short of infrastructu
249 LipeGIG : It's not like that, but in the case of Sao Paulo on the morning, it need to be like that. I can say that in Rio, early morning, morning or almost aft
250 Post contains images SBGLexpat : Couldn't agree more: no english spoken, very unprofessional/unprepared, awful look. Well, here's something I don't understand: No reference to parent
251 Post contains links SA7700 : Please continue the discussion on Brazilian Aviation in the following thread: Brazilian Aviation News # 4 Any posts added to this thread, after the th
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