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N8920E Finally Retires  
User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6512 times:

Good morning everyone,

I was doing some research yesterday evening and found that NW's oldest aircraft, DC-9-31 N8920E/9927, was finally retired on 01/03/10. As the aircraft was built prior to the merger between Douglas and McDonnell, the airplane is one of the few DC-9s to be certified as a 'Douglas DC-9' and not a 'McDonnell-Douglas DC-9'. N8920E first flew on 01/03/1967. Ship 9927 retied on 01/03/2010, on her 43th birthday. She was delivered to EA on 01/18/1967, and has since flown for Midway before joining Northwest in 1995. Ship 9927 retired as NWA9860, MSP-MZJ on 01/03, having earned the honor of being the oldest jetliner flying passengers in North America. I am so happy to have had the privilege to fly on this aircraft into LGA in November of 2009.


http://www.airliners.net/photo/Easte...d=cba3d3cd4ea7af948cf4387f04e2de52

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Easte...d=f5fcdd59445cbfa5e0a5a5f4b35c3ca7

http://www.airliners.net/photo/North...d=ff1e60f902bb08e39fcd28ea786fa10b

http://www.airliners.net/photo/North...d=f5fcdd59445cbfa5e0a5a5f4b35c3ca7

http://www.airliners.net/photo/North...d=cba3d3cd4ea7af948cf4387f04e2de52

http://www.airliners.net/photo/North...d=f5fcdd59445cbfa5e0a5a5f4b35c3ca7

[Edited 2010-01-23 06:52:27]

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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6458 times:
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Thank you for sharing this!

Any idears of some information:

Flying hours?
How many Landings?

thanks.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6185 times:

9927 had about 78,200 hours when it was put into storage in 9/2008.
They returned it to service sometime in early 2009.

So now when it was removed from service again, this time likely for good it was ~80,000 hours.


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6102 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6145 times:
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I have flown on this aircraft at least six times. I always enjoyed flying on her.

This is very sad news....

What is the oldest one out there now?



My mug slaketh over on Falstaff N503
User currently offlineJetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6094 times:

I guess we were both looking at these yesterday, I'm glad you posted i had forgotten the wording whisper jet. I did find one that had been retired with 104,000 hours and i bet it could have gone on further Smile


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineMichman From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

Eastern called a non-hushkitted JT8D a Whisperjet??? Hilarious!

[Edited 2010-01-23 09:20:22 by michman]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6064 times:



Quoting Michman (Reply 5):
Eastern called a un-hushkitted JT8D a Whisperjet??? Hilarious!

The Whisperjet name used on Eastern 727s and DC-9s was intended to refer to the interior noise level, not exterior. And inside, all rear engined jets were significantly quieter than those with wing-mounted engines. Even the rear seats are generally quieter than the rear seats on 707s and DC-8s etc.


User currently offlineJetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

I think they also had whisperliner on the l-10-11,s


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5943 times:



Quoting Jetjeanes (Reply 7):
I think they also had whisperliner on the l-10-11,s

Here's proof:
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Rudy Chiarello



User currently offlineWingsofman72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Thanks for the update on this.
I checked my log and found this Aircraft on 4 flight back in '86/87 when I was with System One traveling all over the country every day out of ATL on Eastern.

I remember thinking then that the DC-9s were getting pretty old then, it's just amazing that they were/are still flying today.

I'd love to get one more DC-9 before they are all gone, just like I got lucky to get on the TAME 727-200 in 2008, but most of my travel is not to/from Europe and in Europe (A319/20/21 are getting pretty boring).


User currently offlineArgonaut From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5547 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 3):
I have flown on this aircraft

Me too....albeit only once, back when it was with Eastern. Flight EA894, MIA-RDU, 24 Aug 83, when it was a mere 16.5 years old!

rj



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User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5126 times:

the original poster mentioned this bird is unique. Should N8920E go to a museum?


--cslusarc from YWG
User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6385 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5090 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
The Whisperjet name used on Eastern 727s and DC-9s was intended to refer to the interior noise level, not exterior. And inside, all rear engined jets were significantly quieter than those with wing-mounted engines. Even the rear seats are generally quieter than the rear seats on 707s and DC-8s etc.

On the Diesel 9, that moniker definitely did not refer to the seats in the back of the bus, between the engines...  tired 

I don't think I ever sat back there on a DC-9 flight when the (jet engine equivalent of)synchophasers were working, either. I always remember being able to hear the annoying sounds of the engines being slightly out of synch with each other...



Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

Isn't the "oldest plane" always changing as they retire more Diesel 9's?

What is the oldest one now?


User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4775 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
The Whisperjet name used on Eastern 727s and DC-9s was intended to refer to the interior noise level, not exterior. And inside, all rear engined jets were significantly quieter than those with wing-mounted engines. Even the rear seats are generally quieter than the rear seats on 707s and DC-8s etc.

You also have to remember, that the JT8D was considered a "quiet" turbofan by 1960s standards. So much, I remember reading that the 727 was the first jet airliner allowed into a major airport (was in NY, I believe), because the 707s, DC-8, Caravelles, etc. were just too loud.


User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3532 times:
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Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 2):
9927 had about 78,200 hours when it was put into storage in 9/2008.

Thanks for the info. And you have the source from this? Guess that there is no webpage with these kind of information?

Regards!


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3587 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2888 times:



Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 14):
¨So much, I remember reading that the 727 was the first jet airliner allowed into a major airport (was in NY, I believe), because the 707s, DC-8, Caravelles, etc. were just too loud.

Correct, but according to a legend, the wind conditions were favourable on the day... As far as I know, the noise levels of the JT-8D are not really lower than those of the JT-3D powered 707s. Of course, in the 1960s they still had cool JT-4A powered turbojets. Now that was sound!


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

I have a nice shot of N8920E in Northwest colours powering back from the gate in DTW.....

Access-Air



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User currently offlineArgonaut From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1745 times:



Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 11):
Should N8920E go to a museum?

Good idea. But I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you. Sad

rj



'the rank is but the guinea stamp'
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