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User currently offlineUkflyertwd From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 2 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Hi all, I'm new to the forum so apologise if this subject has been discussed before but I couldn't find anything specific so thought I'd ask!

My query is regarding pilots that fly new routes and familiarity with approach and geography etc that may be unique to a certain location/ airfield...

Specifically I'm referring to a MAN to FNC flight I'm due to take in July with Jet2. I've been to Madeira numerous times so familiar with the airport and its approach being slightly more challenging than a lot of airfields, whether it be the approach or that its susceptible to quick changing weather. I know Jet2 begins the route in May and this led me to wonder if pilots receive specific training for specific destinations such as FNC? For instance the first time the flight is made... how familiar with the setup is the pilot?

I've heard that TAP pilots receive specific training for FNC... is this true? and if so... do other airlines do the same?! ie. Jet2? lol


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User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Typically, new routes do not require any special training for the pilots. We usually just receive the new airport charts and continue about our business. The charts include airline specific information (Jeppessen 10-10 pages) to include parking spots and other operational considerations.

In the case of a terrain critical airport or other special airports, the new approach charts will often include special pages for the crew to review terrain considerations (Jeppessen 19 pages). The airline's flight operations management may also publish a special briefing or bulletin for the pilots to review prior to operating the flight. In other instances, the crew may also receive a briefing from the chief pilots prior to departure.

Sometimes these special airports are eventually incorporated into the initial simulator training for the pilots. Many pilots receive special simulator training to operate into Reno, Aspen, Jackson Hole, Key West, etc when they enter training for the aircraft type that operates that particular terrain criticial route. The simulator training usually takes a few months to develop and implement, and the program is typically not ready for the inaugural flight of a brand new destination.

User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1041 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Airports can also be designated Special Entry airports for Capts and, sometimes, FOs. If an airport is special entry the Capt will have had to make his/her initial entry with a Line Check Captain. At my airline EGE is such an airport. EGE has no specific requirements for the FO other than the FO must be paired with an EGE qualified Capt. There are others as well. For us in the case of TGU the Capt has to have made two entries with an LCC in order to be qualified and the FO has to have seen it once with an LCC. UIO requires both the Capt and FO to have gone through a specific simulator session. It just depends on the approach requirements and such as to how in depth one needs to go. UIO requires a sim because the RNAV approach has an RNP value below what the rest of the pilot cadre is certified to do.

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User currently offlineUkflyertwd From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

Thanks both for taking the time to reply! Starting to understand things a little better now... if anyone else has anything to add it would be greatly appreciated!

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