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BA First: You're One Of The First To Know....  
User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 17928 times:

Evening chaps/chapettes,

I just thought id drop by and tell anyone that didnt' already know, that British Airways have finally released some more interesting information about the new product... I'm not normally the type to replicate but anyways:

"Dear Mr Peddle,

You will soon be one of the first people in the world to see our new First cabin and suite.

From 1927 when we introduced the first luxury air service, to 1995 when we fitted the first fully flat beds, our dedication and innovative approach to evolving air travel means we have a lot to live up to.

Over the last few years we’ve spent time perfecting the design of the new First. We've drawn on British heritage, sought out exceptional craftsmanship, and minutely considered every single detail. Details that, as a traveller in First, we think you'll appreciate.

For instance, we discovered the uniforms of senior Royal Navy Officers are made on Savile Row from a fabric called Naval Barathea, which is deep blue-black. This inspired our new colour scheme. Combined with accents of rich cream leather and dark red glass, it's a modern, sophisticated take on our classic red, white and blue.

The fully flat seat, shown in the background here, is another example. Its double stitched leather upholstery would feel at home in the world's most prestigious motor cars. On closer inspection the complex twin stitch pattern demonstrates hours of exceptional craftsmanship.

Of course, looks aren't everything. That's why we've been enhancing the service too - and will continue to do so in order to ensure you have a unique experience when travelling in First.

I'll be in touch soon to let you know how you can view the new suite first hand. If you'd like to find out more in the meantime, please visit ba.com/first

Warm regards..."

Also, have a look at the updated page on the BA site...
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/first/public/en_gb

Feel free to delete if this is posted elsewhere mods..)


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6137 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 17335 times:

Thanks for the post....the snips of the seat that they are showing look awesome.


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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5618 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 17335 times:

Not like the likes of me will ever see the inside of an F cabin in flight...


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User currently offlineYodobashi From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 239 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 14529 times:



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 2):
Not like the likes of me will ever see the inside of an F cabin in flight...

Unless I win the Lotto any time soon, me neither!

I was lucky enough to travel transatlantic in BA Club World back in 1995 and that in itself was a treat for sure.

The new First looks extremely classy with every detail carefully considered.

I am happy that others can still continue to afford the luxury of flying 'up front' in order to subsidise those of us, probably the majority, who sit in coach!



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2449 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

With the classy looks of First, I cant wait to see what the new Economy Cabin looks like too! I am however curious as to when they introduced the current CW? Was it in 2006?


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User currently offlineWeb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9817 times:
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does anyone have a picture of the whole seat? the most I have seen is a silver cup holder and the silver BA streamer pin/


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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9783 times:

I'm a bit surprised they aren't showing exactly what the new First actually looks like on the site.

I'm guessing it is the cabine style seats of SQ and EK which would make sense since they have the A380's coming up in a few years.


User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9580 times:



Quoting Babybus (Reply 6):
I'm guessing it is the cabine style seats of SQ and EK which would make sense since they have the A380's coming up in a few years.

No chance, they'll be an evolution of the current seat - not least as the CAA are really not keen on enclosed suites.



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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9113 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9505 times:



Quoting SirThomas (Thread starter):
From 1927 when we introduced the first luxury air service

Who is we? Wasn't the luxury Silver Wing lunch service introduced by Imperial Airways?  duck 

Anyway, the new product looks nice and for the poor elitist saps who want to pay for it to satisfy their ego, enjoy it!



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User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5093 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9093 times:

Looks like but are there more pics???


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User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1448 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

There wont be any more pics for a few more weeks, this is just a teaser.
Once VIIU is out of the workshop in Cardiff and starts its first flights with the new cabin the company will release more pictures.
However although it is not an enclosed suite I must admit having seen the mockup which exists in our report center in T5 it is a very stylish looking product and one that will definatley go down a treat.
Other enhancements will include Electric window blinds, USB ports on the IFE screen, mood lighting, improved meal ovens which cook the food quicker and prevent drying out of food items and a new style cappucino maker.
I think it is safe to say that for once BA got it right!

[Edited 2010-01-27 09:02:54 by tonystan]


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User currently offlineSteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8875 times:

When I got the email I thought this sentence is the key....

Quoting SirThomas (Thread starter):
I'll be in touch soon to let you know how you can view the new suite first hand. If you'd like to find out more in the meantime, please visit ba.com/first

I suspect those who receive the email will be invited to view and try out the new seat somewhere before it is launched in a real aircraft....



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10938 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8878 times:

Says British Airways:
Everything about First has been designed with you in mind. We’ve carefully considered your every need to ensure you enjoy a seamless journey from start to finish.

Says i to British Airways:
The flat beds are very nice, the onboard service and food are most probably top notch but the aircrafts will always be slow.

No flying experience will ever match Concorde.  airplane   angel 



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User currently offlineScrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

There will be a seat on display in one, maybe two of the airport lounges in T5 from early Feb

User currently offlineNclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7754 times:

Finally, what I've been waiting for! I think I'll probably amass my BA miles a little more and upgrade from C. As far as I'm aware, you can upgrade from C to F from any biz booking class rather than the most expensive one?

Can't wait to try this out for real...although in my experience it tends to better to give crews/staff a few months to get used to the new product to get the full benefit!


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4073 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7238 times:



Quoting Steve6666 (Reply 11):
I suspect those who receive the email will be invited to view and try out the new seat somewhere before it is launched in a real aircraft....

the first B777 should emerge from the hangar on 01Feb.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6829 times:

I think the most intriguing of all the pics is the one on this page:

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/first-entertainment/public/en_gb

Can't see a lot, but certainly looks to be interesting!


User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6798 times:



Quoting Scrappy27 (Reply 13):

I recon they'll host it at Earl's Court in early Feb (Seeing as they're the main sponsor). What are the odds that they'll put a display up there??



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User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4070 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6582 times:

I have just one question: Where is the caviar...?????


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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7743 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5833 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4):
I am however curious as to when they introduced the current CW? Was it in 2006?

Yes. The first commercial flight by a BA aircraft fitted with their 2nd generation lie-flat Club World seats was flown by a 744 on 30 November 2006. That flight was operated by G-BNLN flying LHR-LAX that day.

The last aircraft to be fitted with the 2nd generation lie-flat Club World seats was a 772 that returned to service after fitting the new seats just weeks ago. So it took around three years to convert all BA's 744s and 772s. The First Class conversions should not take quite so long as BA have a number of 772s in their fleet without First Class cabins and have temporarily parked up 8 744s since the start of the 2008-09 Winter Schedules (with publicly announced plans to park up another 3 next winter following the delivery of the first of their new 773s).

The new 2nd generation lie-flat Club World seats from some of the parked 744s were used to furbish the cabins of the 772s delivered to BA last summer. That raises the question as to what will happen to the old First Class seats as they remove them. However these seats are much older so they probably have a limited useful life anyway. So I suspect they will all go to salvage.

It also looks as if the First Class cabin refurbishment may be a little quicker than that of the Club World cabin. G-VIIU went to CWL on 11 January and

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 15):
the first B777 should emerge from the hangar on 01Feb.

G-BNLN spent 30 days at CWL when its Club World cabin was refurbished. And that refurbishment included the fitting of AVOD to all seats.


User currently offlineKFly From Australia, joined May 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

Hmmm, I don't know what the fuss is all about. What's new/special in BA new First that isn't already available in the current first class cabins of many other airlines?

Electronic window blinds? - MH has it years ago

A seat lamp with shade? - EK has it years ago

Seats? - Pretty "standard" last generation first class seat

Nothing new announced regarding ground services/lounges.

So yeah, it's not that exciting.  flamed 



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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 842 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5766 times:

Glad you said it KFly - I thought I was the only one thinking it. The great brtitish afternoon tea seems to be a big selling point - which proves they're having to try hard.

But I guess the product reflects BA's long term commitment to first - questionable.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26029 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5660 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4):
I am however curious as to when they introduced the current CW? Was it in 2006?

Yes. The first commercial flight by a BA aircraft fitted with their 2nd generation lie-flat Club World seats was flown by a 744 on 30 November 2006. That flight was operated by G-BNLN flying LHR-LAX that day.

Just curious where do you find that type of extremely detailed information?


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7743 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5451 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 22):
Just curious where do you find that type of extremely detailed information?

Here on a-net:

New BA Club World First Pax Flight Today (by SapphireLHR Nov 30 2006 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=3122381&searchid=3123448&s=G-BNLN#ID3123448


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2989 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5244 times:
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How great does a first class seat really need to be? Unless your talking silly first that had a cabin (that everyone can see into)
until we start service to Mars, most first suites are quite nice.



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25 Post contains images BigMac : The window blinds in the new BA First look completely different. On MH they just cover the window pane just like any other window shade. In the new B
26 Stitch : I sure hope it isn't based on BMW's iDrive!
27 Dano1977 : Looking forward to the unveiling of the "New" First Class. I've been lucky enough to fly First only once, and i didn't pay ( a company who i was contr
28 Tonystan : The lounges have all been relaunched as a result of the opening of Terminal 5 in LHR, that was not even two years ago. More lounges around the world
29 VV701 : Hmmm. Exactly what fuss are you referring to? If you check out the Press Office on BA's web site you will find recent Press Releases on next month's
30 TCXDegsy : G'teed that no matter what BA do with First, they won't please everyone....! A case in point below
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