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Flights To India Must Code-share W/ AI?  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

One of the edition of Flight International was talking about that IF a foreign airlines wants to launch new flight/destination to India, They MUST code-share with Air India. If they code-share with AI, they'll get the permission to launch new route. If they don't code-share with AI, foreign airlines will be forbid to launch new flight/destinations to India.

Is this true?

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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

No its not.

But its pretty damn close to the truth.

You either codeshare with AI, bribe an official at the Civil Aviation ministry or pay a royalty.

Usually a combination of the three.


User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Lufthansa and Emirates both will launch new destinations in India, and I heard that they have to code-share with Air India...

User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

CX does not codeshare with AI on their HKG-DEL and HKG-BOM routes.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

A3XX - you are correct - the royalty extracted for the DEL rights was additional frequencies for AI and permission for IC to fly to HKG, but CX will codeshare with AI on their tentative HKG-BLR-RUH route beginning in November. Details are yet to be worked out though.

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

AI don't codeshare with CX because they're trying to compete with CX on HKG-DEL and HKG-BOM.

Anyways, Why don't Air India just launch their own route instead of Code-sharing with other airlines? And why does foreign airline HAVE to codeshare with Air India?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Because codeshares are free money in the bank for AI.

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1203 times:

That and this way they don;t have to spend money starting their own route....I have one problem with this, and that is, Bilateral agreements between nations are what dictate how and when a route will be established. For example the bi-lateral agreement between Indai and Canada has existed for many years, but for the last 5 years no airline has operated a route between the two nations. Now, Canada 3000 will begin service to India in the fall, but under the original bi-lateral which means a code-share is not required for the route. If India demands that C3 codeshares with Air India on the route, and it is not stipulated in the Bilateral, then that is a violation of International law, and as such would be decided at the Hague. That said, India could just as well forbid a C3 plane from landing in India, in which case they have just started an international incident, and one which would not cause to many problems for Canada, but could be disaterous for India, given the huge amounts of trade that go on between the two nations, mainly Canada sending to India. Not to mention the very large indian community that travels to india every year.


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User currently offlineAI744LR From Thailand, joined May 2001, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Yes Jiml1126, that's my question. Will AI EVER launch a new route??

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

I think Air India will launch new routes with their existing aircrafts. However, I think the new destination might be an extension from its existing destination. (eg. Delhi-Hong Kong-Manila. AI don't flies to Manila, if AI is flying to MNL, I guess it will be an extension from HKG)

I think AI will launch new non-stop flights when they orders newer jets.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

There are absolutely no plans to launch MNL service right now. The next wave of expansion will be in June and will involve sending HKG to 8x weekly (3x BOM-DEL-HKG, 2x BOM-DEL-HKG-KIX, 1x BOM-MAA-HKG, 1x BOM-HKG and 1x BOM-BKK-HKG), plus taking NBO/DAR to 3x weekly and SIN to (n+1) weekly.

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

I just use Manila as a example. I don't even know they're going to fly Manila or not.

User currently offlineKartik97 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Yeah the whole problem is that the government has not injected cash into the airline for its long delayed fleet acquisition plan thus it is stuck code sharing. Hopefully privitisation will take off and it can expand its fleet

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Gosh, you mean theyre actually going to have point to point services from Indian cities to the far east and gulf, unlike their current routes: Bom-Del-Sin (????); Bom-BLR-DXb; Bom-Trivandrum-DXb (???). Only AI would do stuff like that because the poor hapless indian laborers flying to the Gulf couldnt care less if the flight took 2 hours (As it does on EK, CX etc) or 6.5 hours as it does on AI.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

Jaysit - the plans are still tentative. They still have a few weeks to screw them up and throw an extra BOM-AMD-COK-MAA-JED sector in!  Smile

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