DALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1704 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6975 times:
Although I hope this will ever happen, I don't see it happening.
LX have no needs in their current network to operate A380's.
It might however be possible that some 340-600's will be added sometime. Some destinations are operated by 340-300's and have very high loadfactors.
The old Swissair even had them ordered once, but went to VS (?) after the SR collapse.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6636 times:
As mentioned, ever is a very long time. I think they will first go to a350-1000 sized aircraft (the a346 only if they need capacity fast and then second hand) and then go to the a380. It's a very big step to an a343 to a380. Do they have any routes with multiple frequencies on a day (and with a short timeframe)? If not, it's not very likely they will get the a380, not in the near term anyway.
Frigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6552 times:
Quoting DALCE (Reply 4): It might however be possible that some 340-600's will be added sometime. Some destinations are operated by 340-300's and have very high loadfactors.
The A350-900 is already a bit larger than the A343, that seems a bit more logical. But maybe LH could transfer some of their A346's to LX if they desperately need something bigger. Could happen when LH receive their B748i's, with a possible conversion of some of their options
Quoting DALCE (Reply 4): The old Swissair even had them ordered once, but went to VS (?) after the SR collapse.
HBGDS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5996 times:
The old business model SR followed in the 60s regulated market allowed them to plan for two 747-257s and that was that.They never needed more and they knew it. Only with traffic increase projections in the 1980s (and the need to replace heavily used 747s-- up to 16 hours a day) did they go for two-357s and the remaining three were combis, which means they knew the routes they had would not sustain much past 400 pax.
That said, in the era of pre-deregulation, GVA-JFK and ZRH-JFK once a day were the airline's cash cows. A retired SR chief pilot shared with me that a 400- series would have been likely, but they management, in tight with the Swiss government, worried that since Switzerland was not part of the EU and trying to negotiate bilateral rights with each neighbor, it was better to order Airbus next for wide-bodies. Airbus did try and get SR interested in the A-3XX . There is a demo desk model in one of the SR showcases, either in Duebendorf or in Lucern.
Anyway, if LX wants them, it will be up to DLH, and you'd have to fill up on GVA AND ZRH -JFK at a time when CO, DL and god knows what else (sorry I don;t keep up on the details) is already providing a service alongside LX's flights. Also, you'd have to get federal permission to land it. Right now, only special derogations allowed for an A380 visit about two weeks ago to ZRH and GVA (see below)
I would and will say never. The A380 is too big for LX, it's as simple as that. There are destinations where we could use bigger equipment, but an A346-sized aircraft is about the largest we could operate economically, and only on a limited number of destinations. In fact I think the A333 is the perfect aircraft for LX, and the A343 compliments it well on routes where the range is needed.
The fact that LX's only twice-daily longhaul route from ZRH is JFK says it all, and I don't think replacing that with a single frequency on a large aircraft would be in LX's interest.
Like I said, there are a few destinations where an aircraft of the size of an A346 could be a possibility, but even those are limited.
In the future, an A350-900/-1000 combo might be an option for LX in oder to boost capacity, but even the A350-1000 might be too much aircraft for LX.
Toobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5855 times:
Quoting Peanuts (Reply 15):
You never know.
Not at this time.
If SQ ever leaves StarAlliance (never say never), I can see LX competing for high yield SIN-ZRH-Europe traffic, on an A380 (on loan from LH ).
[Edited 2010-01-27 19:05:16]
your right..you never know. But since I am a betting kind of man, I would put my money on NO.
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3739 times:
I'll say it: Never.
Even an A359 would be too big. In my opinion LX will always be a niche carrier operating for LH, focusing on the high yield traffic to/from ZRH/GVA. Low yield passengers are better handled by VLA aircraft via FRA or MUC. That's my opinion.