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CO Increases EWR-LHR, 4th Daily Flight Planned  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16215 times:

CO plans to introduce new evening departure from Heathrow to Newark eff from Mar 28.


EWR LHR 0900 2120 with 757
EWR LHR 1840 0645 with 777
EWR LHR 1920 0740 with 757
EWR LHR 2000 0820 with 757


LHR EWR 1025 1315 with 777
LHR EWR 1050 1355 with 757
LHR EWR 1205 1515 with 757
LHR EWR 1830 2140 with 757


www.travelmole.com/stories/1140663.php?mpnlog=1

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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4070 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 16203 times:
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That's two 757s on the ground at LHR every day for over 10 hours each. Granted, one is on a RON, but still! I hope the yields are pretty good...


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User currently offlineFcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15959 times:

The Times reports it will go to five a day from October with an early morning departure ex LHR added

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5212 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15890 times:

Why not use larger planes? 3 out of 4 flights are the 757. Less groundtime and LHR slots are very expensive.

In both directions there are 3 departures in a 1.5 hour period.


User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1059 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15819 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
Why not use larger planes? 3 out of 4 flights are the 757

Must be a lie flat seat deal (767's last to recieve) to keep competition w/UA, DL, etc. Also, the 10 hrs rest time is cheaper w/757.

At least they put the CLE slot to good use...haha.

[Edited 2010-01-29 04:48:20]

[Edited 2010-01-29 04:49:57]

User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15786 times:

Starting October '10 the schedule will look like this, including the fifth flight:

From London/Heathrow Destination Flight no. Departure Arrival Frequency Aircraft type

New York/Newark CO115 8:40 a.m. 12:05 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO29 10:30 a.m. 1:30 p.m. Daily 777

New York/Newark CO113 11:15 a.m. 2:45 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO111 12:35 p.m. 4:05 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO19 6:00 p.m. 9:30 p.m. Daily 757-200

Houston CO35 9:20 a.m. 1:40 p.m. Daily 777

Houston CO5 11:40 a.m. 4:05 p.m. Daily 777

To London/Heathrow Origin Flight no. Departure Arrival Frequency Aircraft type

New York/Newark CO18 9:00 a.m. 9:20 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO28 6:25 p.m. 6:20 a.m.+1 Daily 777

New York/Newark CO112 7:15 p.m. 7:25 a.m.+1 Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO110 9:20 p.m. 9:25 a.m.+1 Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO114 10:10 p.m. 10:15 a.m.+1 Daily 757-200

Houston CO34 3:50 p.m. 6:50 a.m.+1 Daily 777

Houston CO4 6:35 p.m. 9:35 a.m.+1 Daily 777

//Alex



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8428 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15664 times:
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Quoting CityAirline (Reply 5):
From London/Heathrow Destination Flight no. Departure Arrival Frequency Aircraft type

New York/Newark CO115 8:40 a.m. 12:05 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO29 10:30 a.m. 1:30 p.m. Daily 777

New York/Newark CO113 11:15 a.m. 2:45 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO111 12:35 p.m. 4:05 p.m. Daily 757-200

New York/Newark CO19 6:00 p.m. 9:30 p.m. Daily 757-200

2 757's & 1 777 from in two hours from 10:30 to 12:35, Continental needs something between noon and the 6:30 PM departure. The 757's, so many, too many, two of the four 757 flights should be different planes.


User currently offlineNetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15463 times:

one article reads "Continental to add capacity to Fligship route"

This is their "flagship" route and their using 757s???


User currently offlineEwRkId From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15363 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6):
The 757's, so many, too many, two of the four 757 flights should be different planes.

Well until CO recieves a bundle of 787's that's the best a/c your going to get as added capacity, sorry if CO disappointed you, All of there other longhaul a/c are tied up!!!!

Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 7):
one article reads "Continental to add capacity to Fligship route"

This is their "flagship" route and their using 757s???

Oh not again with the flagship route and using the biggest aircraft on the route, they already use 3 772's to LHR!! Now would you like CO to take there 772's of the TLV route's or perhaps the Asian routes, just to have all 772's?


User currently offlineMogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15296 times:

LHR slots are too valuable to be wasted on 757s. CO should short-term lease more 777s (or even 767s, if u don't have that much demand) until their perm orders get delivered, and reserve the lie-flat 757s for smaller European markets or flagship transcons to LAX and SFO ?

When everyone else is flying widebody (744, 346, 772, 764....), using a claustrophobic single-aisle plane just isn't competitive enough..... (and i'm a CO fan myself)... esp when your seat barely matches the ones offered by BA and VS

Quoting EwRkId (Reply 8):
Oh not again with the flagship route and using the biggest aircraft on the route, they already use 3 772's to LHR!! Now would you like CO to take there 772's of the TLV route's or perhaps the Asian routes, just to have all 772's?



User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15296 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6):
The 757's, so many, too many, two of the four 757 flights should be different planes.

Most wonderfully, Continental isn't Delta - the airline actually endeavors to offer a schedule it can sustain for some time. The 757 is the perfect aircraft to build up frequencies as it has comparatively lower overall costs. Also, virtually all amenities offered on other longhaul a/c types can be offered on the 757, including flat bed seats in BF.



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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15246 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 9):
LHR slots are too valuable to be wasted on 757s.

Says who? For starters, CO's 757-200s hold about as many people as its smallest widebody (762). Also, the 757 is allowing CO to do something that's a win for both the airline and the marketplace -- become a serious contender in the NYC-LON market that can offer a credible alternative to the looming AA/BA immmunized behemoth.



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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15230 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
Why not use larger planes?

Because frequency is king in the NYC-LON market.



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User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15234 times:

When I read about CO and DL adding EWR/JFK flights to LHR (flagship routes), I always think of AA pulling flights off the JFK-LHR route give a slot to RDU and a smile comes to my face.

User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15206 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 9):
LHR slots are too valuable to be wasted on 757s

These flights could clearly be concatenated....

Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
EWR LHR 1920 0740 with 757
EWR LHR 2000 0820 with 757



Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
LHR EWR 1050 1355 with 757
LHR EWR 1205 1515 with 757

But if they haven't got any other 777s, they haven't got any other 777s. And even a 777 would leave you about 75 seats shy of 2 757s.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16885 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15195 times:

Excellent news, 5 daily EWR-LHR is where CO needed to be as the NYC market leader. The 757-200s will have lie flat Businessfirst seats, plus in 2011 CO is taking delivery of six 787-8s which could find their way to LHR.

This frequency increase along with the recently announced Shannon and Oslo frequency increases are nice signs going forward.



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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15164 times:



Quoting RJ111 (Reply 14):
These flights could clearly be concatenated....

Sure they could be, but there's no upside to doing so. Again, frequency rules, especially as the NYC-LON market is about to "restructure" in a very big way.



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 15047 times:



Quoting Avek00 (Reply 16):
Again, frequency rules

Profit rules. 2 flights 40 minutes apart is clearly overkill and will make very little difference to RASM - heck the Vc of the 757 will diminish any benefits further, but if there's nothing available to reduce CASM by combinding them then there's no gain.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3988 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14922 times:
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Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 9):
LHR slots are too valuable to be wasted on 757s.

here we go again........................



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14910 times:

Great lets add flights to a hub thats too crowded already, this flight will never be on-time.


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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14907 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
This frequency increase along with the recently announced Shannon and Oslo frequency increases are nice signs going forward.

Indeed, the JV'd Star carriers are deadly serious about being a hotly competitive force on the North Atlantic.



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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14770 times:

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 17):
flights 40 minutes apart is clearly overkill and will make very little difference to RASM

I think CO would disagree, as would BA, which offers 3 JFK-LHR departures within a narrow timeframe (19:20, 20:01, 20:40), and with widebodies to boot. The closely-spaced flights are useful in terms of presenting more options to the customer, such as by optimizing the network for connections on both ends, and allowing added flexibility in inventory management practices.

[Edited 2010-01-29 07:27:54 by avek00]


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User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14770 times:

I am not thrilled with the 757s either, but Kudos to CO and to DL for the strides they have made in this market.

Remember, up until recently, this market was owned by VS, BA, AA, and UA.

UA is gone, and the three remaining are somewhat smaller . . . AA has no EWR service, their JFK service is less than it has been in years thanks to the RDU slot allocation; BA is down to mostly 777s out of JFK; VS cancelled the am flight to JFK.

There is spot for DL and CO and they are making in-roads. Start with 757s and up them as the market matures.

I'll throw this out:

You are upset at CO using 757s and wasting LHR slots

But how about BA (via OpenSkies) using a low density 757 to JFK and wasting valuable JFK slots?????


User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 4405 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14697 times:



Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 22):
I am not thrilled with the 757s either

I *am* thrilled about the 757s - CO has decked them out quite nicely, and as they are receiving flat bed BF seats before the 767s, they offer/will offer a superior product in both cabins compared to the 767s for some time to come.



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User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2468 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14699 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 9):
When everyone else is flying widebody (744, 346, 772, 764....), using a claustrophobic single-aisle plane just isn't competitive enough..... (and i'm a CO fan myself)... esp when your seat barely matches the ones offered by BA and VS

The B757 is not claustrophobic. There is nothing wrong with flying the B757 across the atlantic. When flying to MAD on CO, I chose the B757 over the B777 because of time,convenience and aircraft comfort. The aircraft has a superb AVOD and the cabin looks really nice. It is like flying the B777 without the 3 middle seats...


25 Alitalia744 : Not sure what the issue is. CO is fishing where the fish are and in this instance they want to eat more. Creating a schedule that makes sense operatio
26 Incitatus : It will be interesting to see what DL does with JFK-LHR, or better, how much money they are willing to burn in it. The five frequencies CO plans to ha
27 RJ111 : BA only offer that because they want to maintain the roughly 2 hour intervals on the LHR-JFK leg (something that CO fail to do themselves with sporad
28 STT757 : I find most folks complaining about 757s on trans-Atlantic routes have in most cases never actually experienced it first hand. I've flown EWR-BCN-EWR
29 Cba : Enough of the 757 bashing transatlantic... a few key points: 1. The 757s have a nicer on board product with AVOD and the lie-flat Business First Seat
30 Avek00 : Indeed. And with the immunized cooperation + 4-way joint venture under way, the modeling and forecasting (and ultimately, revenue generation and risk
31 FUN2FLY : I think that is a key point here. Those are all ATI flights - so those UA fans in NYC that missed the Star Alliance can now use CO. BMI connnectivity
32 Tommy767 : They should order a few more 764s or shouldn't have cancelled their 2 777ER orders. CO doesn't have enough widebodies. period. I'm actually surprised
33 STT757 : They didn't, they are taking delivery of two more 777-200ERs in the 2nd Qtr , with a further two after that.
34 Jfk777 : Delta started LHR with 767-300ER, thank you very much no Junior Varsity planes needed apply. I wonder what the people from that state where everythin
35 EwRkId : What dates are you looking at? I put in a couple of dates in Feb and it shows a 772 as the 6:50 p.m. dep out of EWR and the 752 is the late night and
36 Peanuts : That long already? That's remarkable. I remember first seeing a CO B757 at AMS in the 90's and I couldn't believe my eyes. I kept staring at the plan
37 Tommy767 : Whoops my bad. I was looking at post #5 and its mid morning LHR-EWR and 6:25 outgoing back to LHR. That makes a lot more sense
38 Toobz : Good for CO. 757 is a great aircraft. What's the difference between flying in a 752 to London or flying one transcon to LAX? Same flying time. You got
39 N62NA : Just like most flights out of EWR.... which, by the way, made some survey I saw yesterday as the 6th most delayed airport in the world. Congrats, EWR
40 Tommy767 : Err...not really. NYC-LAX is quite a bit shorter. DL also doesn't fly the 757 to london from JFK. They exclusively fly the 764. Did you see the pic a
41 B747forever : So true. I dont get it why people bash the 757 all the time on trans Atlantic routes. As N62NA said, just fly to the west coast from EWR and it is al
42 MAH4546 : NYC-LAX against headwinds often takes just as long in-air time as NYC-LHR does with tailwinds - around 6 hours. It is not a significant difference at
43 STT757 : Only becauseDL does not have lie flat seats in their Trans-Atlantic 757s, CO is installing lie flats in all 757-200s, 767-200Ers, 767-400s, 777-200ER
44 Cba : Once again, I am sure CO ran the numbers and considered adding additional 767s and 777s, but given the condition of the economy adding capacity is pr
45 CODC10 : CO will operate the 757 on the route because they need to have a wider range of frequencies on the route, and they can't afford to take any 777s off c
46 Toobz : Lol oh I know DL flies only the 764 to LHR. i meant the difference between LHR and LAX isn't THAT huge. And if that's what CO has avail to fly then g
47 STT757 : I did 9-10 hours, it was fine.
48 CODC10 : At present, on only two daily frequencies. There's no doubt in my mind that they will add more, but right now their schedule is not very good.
49 WorldTraveler : The 757 is more than adequate for 8-9 hr TATL flgihts... what makes it "unusual" is that CO is flying so many frequencies with 757s.... airline econom
50 N62NA : I always have a hard time understanding when people make this point. So if a business traveler does not care about the type of aircraft they are on,
51 Toobz : agreed. Hey nice to have you back WT! even if I am the only one who missed you lol
52 OA412 : Reread this thread. I don't see a single DL "fan" in this thread complaining about CO flying 757s on TATL flights.
53 MAH4546 : I don't care what type of plane I'm on, I care about the product, and I suspect that's what the business traveler cares about most, too. If the 757 h
54 CALMSP : I enjoyed my 8:42 TXL-EWR flight on the 757............granted i was in 3F, but still, I like it waaaaaaaay better than the 764. The amount of time it
55 GlobeEx : Well, while many people might argue what I'm saying, (alos because their LHR slots were really costly)... however their approache shows ONE main thing
56 Peanuts : Huh? of the DL fans I find on here I didn't see anything "hell bent" of the sort. Do I detect a little taunting?
57 Post contains images Toobz : agreed. I think we're being awfully nice actually..
58 Tommy767 : 9-10 hours? holy god. As much as I love the 757 that is way to long to ever be on one. The NYC-LHR market is over-saturated as is. 2x a day is comple
59 Peanuts : Good reason, actually
60 Avek00 : On the cost side of the ledger, perhaps. But you have to consider CO may be in a position to develop a revenue premium by offering more frequencies.
61 GlobeEx : While the first is correct, with two flights a day CO would never be able to establish themself on LHR-NYC. In addition, right now is THE time to pic
62 Avek00 : Truthfully, it's quite possible CO paid virtually nothing for the slots for the new services, as it's feasible for BD (and by BD, I really mean LH) a
63 Post contains images STT757 : The 10 hours on the CO 757 from Barcelona was better than the 7 hours on the NWA A330 from HNL, NWA didn't serve any food for a 7.5 hour flight. You
64 MasseyBrown : If CO weren't making a bunch of money flying nearly full 757's transatlantic, they wouldn't do it. Their consistent ability to fill 757s at top dolla
65 STT757 : The additional LHR slots could have also come from UA, whom has several leased out.
66 CALPSAFltSkeds : I scanned this entire thread and, unless I've missed something, ask where the slots are coming form. If CO is paying for slots and then run a double-h
67 CALMSP : couldn't agree with you more. I specifically only flew on the 777/757 for that reason alone. I hate the entertainment on the 767.
68 Peanuts : Is this correct? Is this public info? I'd like to see it. If that's the case, and AF/KL want to hang on to their own slots, I would expect an announc
69 GlobeEx : Well, while they paid little they didn't get them for free. LH is really playing hardball. In order to get their balance correct (as formerly the val
70 Justloveplanes : I agree, I haven't flown a 757 TATL, but I do prefer the 747 upper deck's smaller area as opposed to the larger area downstairs. A few others J-class
71 FlyCaledonian : Exactly, the market is still heavily depressed and the world economy is not out of the woods yet, let alone showing any significant growth. CO is lay
72 N62NA : Wouldn't CO already have those corporate contracts? All the New York City traffic (well a huge chunk of it) uses JFK, so we're mainly talking about N
73 Ikramerica : For those who think CO should just replace two 757s with one 777, you need to check the math. The 777 would have 16 more J seats and 80 fewer Y seats
74 OA412 : Exactly. CO is clearly trying to establish frequency in the market and they've decided that the best aircraft to do that with is the 757.
75 CODC10 : Not if DL is trying to capture any substantial corporate traffic on the NYC-LHR route. 2 daily frequencies is simply inadequate. The big money will c
76 SurfandSnow : Wow! We started with just two daily EWR-LHR flights, and now we are already up to 5?!? Certainly nice to see CO doing well on this highly competitive
77 Post contains images Avek00 : A move to 767s on LHR post-06/01 and prior to the 767 refurbs would be bass ackwards and counterproductive for CO, as the flat bed seats are a key co
78 Shaq : Why this thread is getting about Flat seats in DL ? c'mon guys ! This is a good move ! Continue improving the airline , Smisek ! The 4th frequency is
79 Viscount724 : If not mistaken,CO is the only airline operating narrow-body aircraft on U.S.-LHR routes. If it's such a good idea, why is nobody else doing it? On a
80 CALMSP : do you want the last 2 minutes of your life back for thinking about what to write on my comment? In fact it does have to do with teh a/c. If you have
81 CALMSP : CO has also stated that effective June 1, all flights scheduled to LHR will feature the lie-flat seats in J class.
82 CODC10 : Incidentally, CO's international staffing (on BF flights) is greater than DL's across the board. This is especially evident on the 757.
83 Ikramerica : CO is a smaller airline than DL, UA, AA and BA. They do not have a large longhaul fleet. But they fly to the second most destinations worldwide (used
84 United1 : It may be a lease from United there was a post on here that the 4th daily IAD-LHR is not coming back for the summer so UA may be leasing it out to it
85 LTBEWR : One major advantage for CO vs. other airlines is their hub at EWR give customers a huge range of connecting service throughout the USA as well as Carr
86 CALPSAFltSkeds : That might be quite a feat. That would require: - A minimum of three 772s and only two are completed now according to CO's website. It would be tough
87 Slinky09 : Well that's great, but in the meantime they are trying to build up capacity with an inferior product, small planes that are slower (the 757 schedule
88 MasseyBrown : During the earnings conference call, Smisek said all CO 772's would have new seats by the end of 2010. That would indicate an accelerated conversion
89 FUN2FLY : Up until this point, they have been on a 1 a/c per month pace in HKG which would suggest 13 a/c + 2 new ones by EOY. So, stepping it up by 5 a/c isn'
90 STT757 : With the additional frequencies on EWR-SNN, EWR-OSL and now EWR-LHR how much more slack is there in the 757-200 fleet for additional Trans-Atlantic fl
91 CALMSP : by the end of Feb, there will be four 777 fitted, and three 757, so by the time june 1 rolls around, shouldn't be to much of an issue. inferior produ
92 CALPSAFltSkeds : Totally agree. I count 28. There's an aircraft doing Oslo and Shannon totally 7 days. With the below two for LIM, that's 30 of 41 aircraft. LIM-IAH r
93 Shaq : In IAH . Ship #133 firsat flight was something like IAH-PHX
94 STT757 : Last year CO was operating a 757-300 between IAH and LIM, if there were any operational issues the newly installed winglets should help. IAH-LIM shou
95 Post contains links VV701 : Sorry. OpenSkies no longer operate into JFK so they do not "waste" valuable JFK slots by using a 752. This is incorrect. BA operate a total of 41 fli
96 CALMSP : the schedule come October 31, 2010: CO018 EWR 0900 – 2120 LHR 757 CO028 EWR 1825 – 0625 LHR 777 CO112 EWR 1915 – 0725 LHR 752 CO110 EWR 2120 –
97 Post contains links STT757 : Here's some photos of CO's new lie flat BusinessFirst seats in their 757-200: http://forum.scanair.no/showthread.php?t=58735
98 Post contains links Cba : " target=_blank>http://forum.scanair.no/showthread.p...58735 These look a lot like the Business Class seats on the AA 763... which are quite comforta
99 Tommy767 : Is it just me or does the new BF CO 757 seat design look strikingly similar to UA's new business class seats?
100 AznMadSci : Slightly, but the seats are angled towards the window than fully facing forward. Also there are no backward-facing seats.
101 CODC10 : Except these actually go flat, as in level to the floor.
102 Toobz : Very nice new product! does anyone else think the aisle looks really narrow? It might just be the way the pic was taken. Doesn't look like a cart coul
103 Tommy767 : But other than that....I was really thinking of the similarity between the large LCD screen panels and plastic upholstery.
104 Post contains links Shaq : Here you can see the seats in the 777. http://chrisjur.wordpress.com/2009/1...rst-lie-flat-seats-initial-review/ STT57 , thanks for the link . The sea
105 STT757 : By June all CO flights to LHR from EWR and IAH on the 757s and 777s will offer the new lie flat seats, it's really a great product. CO has the best pr
106 STT757 : CO and UA are aligning their product offerings from their FF programs to their J products. Domestic trips to Florida and California will be sweet in
107 Post contains images MasseyBrown : When I suggested this could happen a few months ago, other posters told me that that kind of scheduling was not the "Continental Way." It's amazing w
108 Tommy767 : hmmm wonder why?
109 FUN2FLY : Exactly - because "CO does not operate with sub-fleets" was the battle cry. We'll see if the other subfleet discussion comes to fruition on 753's to
110 Post contains links MasseyBrown : That may depend on the pilot negotiations. The pilots need to approve the existing and planned joint vertures. And it wouldn't hurt if they loosened
111 Luckyone : But they can at ATL for DL, and DFW and MIA for AA. With respect to the NE, it's MOSTLY a wash, though CO does appear to serve a few more. Given the
112 Yellowtail : Except PHL..what a disaster...did it once vowed never again...did it again....now give me EWR anyday over PHL
113 CO787EWR : Is it that bad actually I've never had to connect at EWR but it seems that it wouldn't be that hard since everything is in Terminal C. You do have to
114 Post contains images Luckyone : Never connected in PHL as I've only flown US once, and that was a CLT connection from ATL that was totally unnecessary, but that's a rant for a diffe
115 CO787EWR : Cant argue that one even when starting my journey from EWR->XXX delays are so common especially summer afternoons when the European flights leave.
116 BOACCunard : CO certainly doesn't need this kind of frequency to take on DL, or even VS. The big targets here have to be AA and BA. VS is a distant third after th
117 CODC10 : Bingo. A consolidated AA/BA will definitely alter the competitive landscape on one of the world's busiest international routes. BA has a presence at
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