FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15 Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4673 times:
Yesterday I witnessed a rare sight from my window, an Antonov 124 cargo jet landing at MSP. Driving by MSP on the highway later, I saw it parked on the ramp. Does anyone know what its business in MSP is? Is it Delta-related? This is a very rare guest for us here.
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RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6191 posts, RR: 25 Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4379 times:
MSP has been getting at least one, maybe two AN-124 every week or so for the past month. This is about the fifth thread which starts the same way I've seen.
All related to the National Guard and movements to/from Europe/ the Middle East.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3563 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4379 times:
It was probably to bring all the massive computer mainframe components for the commodore style IT infastructure DL is implementing as the merger continues with NWA.
SeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4290 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
Bringing in components for the top-secret DC-9 reengining program.
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FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4049 times:
Thanks for the info ... interesting to know that they are ANG related... I knew that the ANG was ramping up for their deployment. I had no idea about the AN-124s though. That one was the first I had seen.
Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 5): Bringing in components for the top-secret DC-9 reengining program. duck
You knew NW was in charge of the new DL when they started to buy more Douglas (MD-90s). Those are probably cheaper to buy than putting new engines on the diesel-9s.
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RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6191 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3952 times:
I suspect some of the diesel-9s will out live most of us.
Simairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 824 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3942 times:
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 6): Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 5):
Bringing in components for the top-secret DC-9 reengining program. duck
You knew NW was in charge of the new DL when they started to buy more Douglas (MD-90s). Those are probably cheaper to buy than putting new engines on the diesel-9s.
Conversation at work the other day:
Me: "Could you speak to the reliability of our GSE (Ground Service Equipment) across the system?"
Person A: "It's good but old. We've only had a combined tracking system for six months now so we don't have as much history on the Northwest side."
Person B: "I thought we sold much of our older GSE fleet several years ago and bought new equipment?"
Person A: "We did, but Northwest was the biggest buyer."
Xtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 942 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3601 times:
Doesn't it seem odd that we are using post Soviet metal to move our stuff downrange? I know the Guard has pretty tough luck, but come on? LOL When I was still active duty we were moving some Russki stuff via C5's in the very early '90's as part of Perastroyka (sic?). And not exactly as if it were a big secret, but not widely publisized.
To hire a Ukranian company to move our troops with the airlift capability we have and then to outsource it. Who's getting the slap in the face? To Russia it's a slap and one step closer to Ukrane getting into NATO. Then again, doesn't this show the rest of the world we can't make it on our own? WTF?
However it is nice to see Eastern metal in Western skies on peaceful terms.
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Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3504 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 9): To hire a Ukranian company to move our troops with the airlift capability we have and then to outsource it
Like many other things that are outsourced, maybe they got it for a really decent price.
WrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
Quoting Xtoler (Reply 9): To hire a Ukranian company to move our troops with the airlift capability we have and then to outsource it.
The aifrlift capability you speak of is working at a high level already. The C-17 fleet is doing an admirable job, the C-5 fleet though is showing it's age, which only leaves the AN-124 fleets to supplement for oversize/weight vehicles etc.
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6191 posts, RR: 25 Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2445 times:
The US Dept of Defense completed a study and strategic plan to outsource as much logistics and support functionality as possible in 1973 - Donald Rumsfeld was the leader of the group which created the report/ plan. That plan really got the push to implement starting in mid-1981 and has continued strongly since.
Republicans and Democrats alike support the plan, because even though a company in the Ukraine might get this type contract, the vast majority of the work is contracted to companies in various congressional districts.
The airlift mission has been divided into two separate catagories - strategic and tacitical.
Strategic airlift is handled by contractors. While a Ukraine company might get a few flights, most of the airlift will be carried out by US companies.
Tactical airlift is still handled by the US Air Force and not having to schedule assets for strategic missions gives the USAF much more flexibility to respond when needed.
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