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User currently offlineAeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 374 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 8 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Hello all.

In light of the crew, in this case, captain change for the ET409 flight that unfortunately went down near the coast of Naameh, Lebanon shortly after takeoff, (discussed in another thread), how common is it for crews to switch or get a switch approved. For example this captain switched his flight with his ill-fated colleague to be able to assist to some wedding... what's the procedure for a cockpit or cabin crew switch?

Do they have to notify the airline or how is this done?

Thanks,

-Aeolus


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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 8 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Different airlines will have different systems. At the airline I work for we have a program we can use through the company website. It allows us to add, drop and trade trips that are on our schedule.


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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 2645 times:



Quoting Aeolus (Thread starter):
Do they have to notify the airline or how is this done?

For US airlines, yes. You need to have the correct crew manifested on an international flight, and any flight the company needs to be away of flight, duty, rest, and currency issues.

Quoting Aeolus (Thread starter):
how common is it for crews to switch or get a switch approved.

Most of the places I have worked at it is pretty easy. The company couldn't care less who works the flight, so long as it is covered.



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User currently offlineDavid21487 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 2388 times:



Quoting Aeolus (Thread starter):
Do they have to notify the airline or how is this done?



There's no need to notify the airline or scheduling department. It's all done over the computer. If you have a trip you don't want to work or that you'd like to swap for another trip, you can post that trip online on the 'swap' board. Any flight attendant can then come along and pick up or swap your trip (provided that it fits on their schedule and doesn't interfere with any of their FAA legalities). When someone picks up or swaps your trip, you get an automated email letting you know and the trip will no longer be on your schedule. If you pick up a trip, your name now appears on the crew list and any necessary paperwork associated with that flight.

Last minute swaps that occur at the airport between crew members shortly before or after they've already signed in for their respective trips will usually require a call to scheduling.

Quoting Aeolus (Thread starter):
how common is it for crews to switch or get a switch approved.



People switch and swap trips all the time for a number of reasons. I do it because I'm usually able to get better trips than what I get on my line. Some people do it to get different days off, etc. It's not tough at all to get it approved. Once again, it's all done over the computer. As long as you're within your legalities (i.e. you've had enough rest between trips, you're not trying to overlap trips, etc) and you're qualified for the position you're trying to swap for (you can't voluntarily work a position that you're not officially trained or qualified for, however if the company needs you, they'll put you there in 2 seconds whether you're qualified or not), you shouldn't have any problems. You'll be approved or denied instantly by the computer system. If you're denied, it'll tell you why.

I suppose this is specific to my airline, but I can't imagine it being much different from others.



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