CX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13025 times:
This follows an annoucement by Lufthansa earlier in the month to start flying to Iraq again. It is planned to serve both Baghdad as well as Erbil. The latter is already being served by subsidiary Austrian Airlines from Vienna.
Crosscheck007 From Poland, joined Jan 2010, 278 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12906 times:
This is fantastic news! It is high time that travel resume and tourism be promoted. Travel is only as dangerous or as safe as you make it. I am looking forward to see the return of more Western and local carriers!
Je l'attends pas un homme. J'apporte le parti, j'apporte le feu d'artifice.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12421 times:
I'm guessing the fact that both LH and AF are re-starting services to SDA is probably also due to improved safety (I also saw a TR, where EK isn't even avoiding Iraq anymore), which makes me wonder why in all this time, KBL isn't re-started. Or is, safety wise, KBL much worse off right now than SDA?
Malayil From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 80 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12365 times:
Security wise I'm sure SDA is a lot safer than KBL and in general there seems to be a lot more going on in Baghdad than Kabul. There still our suicide bombings, but I think some type of semblance is returning there. As for AF, I assume these Baghdad flights will be a tag on from somewhere else maybe AMM or Damascus if AF fly there. I'm pretty sure no flight attendant wants to overnight in Baghdad.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12235 times:
Quoting Malayil (Reply 6): As for AF, I assume these Baghdad flights will be a tag on from somewhere else maybe AMM or Damascus if AF fly there. I'm pretty sure no flight attendant wants to overnight in Baghdad.
The LH flight will also make a stop in AMM IIRC. I don't remember if it applies to all SDA flights out of MUC and FRA, or just for the FRA flight.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2738 posts, RR: 31 Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11139 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9): I think that AF will likely use their A 319LR to fly CDG-BGW nonstop rather than a wide bodied aircraft.
Probably throw some of those "Dedicate" aircraft on the BGW route that are accustomed to serving low-density, war-torn markets throughout Africa where about half the plane is "first class". Plenty of wealthy families, business execs, corrupt politicians, etc. to fill all those premium seats.
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
Oh really!!! Do you or I or anyone else have control over Islamic militants hell bent on bringing down an airliner? Baghdad is the last place I would want to fly into right now. There is no way to gurantee the safety of these aircraft as they approach the airport. Just ask the pilot of that DHL aircraft that almost got shot down on approach.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5961 times:
Quoting SkyguyB727 (Reply 16): So many people are referring to SDA. The SDA airport code has been discontinued. Baghdad International now uses the code BGW.
Then why is it still that everywhere I search, it tells me that SDA is the current airport code for Baghdad International, and that BGW is only the metro code for the city of Baghdad? Do you have a link to an official publication from the IATA that confirms what you say?
AirbusA3XX From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 5 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5826 times:
I think this would be great for the large iraqi community we have here in the UK, 1 small hope to CDG and then a direct flight to Iraq, to see there familys. i wonder what the fares will be like though.
25 Airproxx: Glad to see this competition between LH and AF/KL. I really hope this route to be opened soon. Curious to see what metal will be sent there... Usuall
26 FRAspotter: Or you can just ask the thousands of pilots of the aircraft which have landed safely there since that incident.
27 Directorguy: Yup. That's why so many airlines are scrambling to provide service to a country-because the reconstruction industry will be huge. And a lot of it wil
28 Airproxx: Well it also depends on what other operators will send too, just like what's happening to some AF African destinations right now. PHC has been upgrad
29 AmtrakGuy: Did NWA wins the right to fly into Bagdad a few years ago?
30 Luckyone: How much of their traffic would be geared toward Americans going there for defense-related business? That could provide for some complications, if th
31 FlySSC: BGW is the code for the city of BAGHDAD (like PAR for Paris, LON for London or NYC for New York). But BGW is also the code for Baghdad Al Muthana. SD
32 Nitepilot79: Right on! To hell with six flags or disney world. The best roller coasters are in the sky.
33 Flaps30: I am not criticising or condemning anyone who wants to fly there. I just think people are being pretty naive to start thinking it is safe to fly into
34 Jacobin777: I flew CDG-DXB back in 2005 and we flew basically over Baghdad as well.
35 FRAspotter: I remember reading about that a few years back but don't know if anything every came out of it. Besides I highly doubt that DL would take up the rout
36 SurfandSnow: Any U.S. airline flying to Iraq would have a major target on its back. Supposedly DL had to quit Kenya at the last second because militants threatene
37 FlySSC: An article like the one in "le Figaro" posted in the original Topic must be taken with A LOT of precautions ... Is AF interested in returning to BGW ?
38 JFK787NYC: Ok, This is the same way people were talking about Moscow in 1992-1998 when there were thousands of businessmen killed yearly? Did we still see peopl
39 FlySSC: I don't remember bombs attacks everyday in public places, market, Hotels, in Moscow during those years ... Don't remember either planes shot down whi
40 FlySSC: I don't remember bombs attacks everyday in public places, market, Hotels, in Moscow during those years ... Don't remember either planes shot down whi
41 JFK787NYC: Ok, 1 DHL flight got hit while on approach to Baghdad International. So What? American Media? Maybe someone can tell me where US Government planes la
42 FRAspotter: Well in the past it always landed at BGW at night, unannounced and with lights out. Night vision landed them IINM....
43 LAXorLGWonDL: I'm sure this will change over time, as it has for Baghdad! Although we were looking the other day, and there are flights from FRA-KBL via Safi Airli
44 FRAspotter: Weren't there Ariana flights out of FRA with A300s? IIRC they weren't in ariana colors but through another company...