Aeroplaner From Germany, joined Feb 2010, 1 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 21134 times:
If Boston people like A380 aeroplane will must go to airport Monday 8-Feb for arriving after middle day. You can not fly in it but can see from many views out side.
jtdieffen From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 20895 times:
Do you have any flight details? I'm in a work summit all day, but will make an exception to get to the airport during the day. If it's over-nighting that would be helpful. Would love to see it arrive.
Reggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1152 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 20343 times:
We have a group of airliner spotters in Boston that will definitely be interested in this. Thanks for letting us know. Any more specific details you have would be appreciated.
philhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 667 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19993 times:
Do you have details? I'm in a work summit all day, but will make an exception to get to the airport during the day. Would love to see it arrive.
Quoting Reggaebird (Reply 3): We have a group of airliner spotters in Boston that will definitely be interested in this. Thanks for letting us know. Any more specific details you have would be appreciated.
BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1760 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19948 times:
Too bad I live in Worcester now, I would love to see it! I had a dream a while back in which I was planespotting at UMASS Boston and the A380 came in (operated by ANA, who has not ordered any) and in my dream it was about the size of the school. I know it's not quite that big, but I would've loved to see it flying over UMB in real life.
It will not be the LH A380. Their first A380 only finished painting last week and will not be actually delivered to LH until May. I would guess at it being one of Airbus' own A380's as it sounds like it is visiting for route proving purposes.
Reggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1152 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 18994 times:
I received the following from an unidentified Airliners.net member:
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I'm one of those poor souls that browse the airliners forums...
I have some inside information that you can post on the forum and pass on to your spotter friends. Please do not post my name (yes, even my first name).
A380 arrives KBOS from Hamburg-Finkenwerder at 1430 local Monday
A380 departs KBOS to Toulouse-Blagnac at 0800 local Tuesday
Aircraft will be flying on Airbus callsigns.
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airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6156 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16703 times:
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 6): Is this the LH A380? I wonder why it would not have been known till now since it would be free advertising for Airbus/LH (if indeed a LH bird).
BOS security is notoriously "anti-spotter". The last thing they want is a crowd walking around the airport to see the plane. So I'm not surprised they're keeping this quiet. Thanks for sharing the info. I'll be there both days to watch it land and take off
FiestaFlight From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16047 times:
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep checking FlightAware, so I can check out the landing from my office window overlooking the harbor. I hope it's 22L or 27. Might be 33L too, as of lately.
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6156 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15944 times:
Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 10): Hope you will share with us your photos to
I only have a tiny point-and-shoot camera and wil llikely be in my office across the harbor so I doubt the quality of the pics would even be worth taking them
crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1494 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15872 times:
Wow !!! dont post my name....dont post my identity.....If you do my life is in danger....You'd think we were talking about some top secret life or death govt. situation here....Its a civilian airplane landing at a civilian airport....whats the big concern??? If I was in Boston I would love to go see the A380...You'd think the public would be more informed....What am I missing here???
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3562 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15465 times:
Clearly Massport is behind this supposed 'veil of secrecy.' But The Boston Globe and Boston Herald aren't beholden to Massport, and they'll say something about it. One of the best Boston airliners.net photographers here actually is a photographer for the Herald. I can't imagine how either newspaper (or any TV station) could 'keep this quiet' before the fact. They will probably crow about this visit once the plane is in Boston, which is probably all that Massport cares about. They simply don't want a crowd descending on Logan to see the arrival.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 11685 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15240 times:
Is this a test for if BOS is used as a diversion/emergency airport? I don't think BOS is set up to handle regular pax service of an A-380. Lucky spotters. Although I live in the NYC area, I don't live close enough to JFK where the A-380 has been operated at to get a look and I don't hear of it ever visiting EWR soon (and besides spotting is near impossible near EWR, unless lucky enough to be in side secure areas of the terminals).
dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15122 times:
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 14): They simply don't want a crowd descending on Logan to see the arrival.
SFO, CVG, BDL, LAX, JFK, and all the other airports that the A380 has visited didn't have this problem. What makes Boston special?
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16): Is this a test for if BOS is used as a diversion/emergency airport? I don't think BOS is set up to handle regular pax service of an A-380.
I'm sure an A380 could fit at at a gate in Terminal E if it needed to deplane pax.
AncientPelican From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 34 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15058 times:
I'm close to BOS so maybe I'll stop to see it. Anyone have any ideas on a good viewing spot?
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 841 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15040 times:
Is a runway long enough to handle the A380 fully loaded?
Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6156 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14580 times:
Quoting dvincent (Reply 17): SFO, CVG, BDL, LAX, JFK, and all the other airports that the A380 has visited didn't have this problem. What makes Boston special?
Have you ever been to BOS? Like I said above, Massport security doesn't like people who are not traveling hanging around the airport. Besides, there's really no good spotting at BOS other than the parking garage and you'll get kicked out of there within minutes.
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16): Is this a test for if BOS is used as a diversion/emergency airport? I don't think BOS is set up to handle regular pax service of an A-380.
I suspect this is Airbus trying to prove that you can operate the A380 at existing, potential airports with minimal improvements. I have no doubt that BOS with it's large demand for TATL travel and very limited gate availability at it's one and only international terminal, would be a strong candidate for the A380. As it is, we get 5 daily 744's to Europe in the Summer from 4 different carriers and demand is bound to increase once the global economy starts to rebound. I would not be the least bit surprise to see BA eventually operating the A380 to BOS. And if that were to happen you can bet LH would follow suit.
dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14391 times:
Quoting airbazar (Reply 20): Have you ever been to BOS? Like I said above, Massport security doesn't like people who are not traveling hanging around the airport. Besides, there's really no good spotting at BOS other than the parking garage and you'll get kicked out of there within minutes.
Look at my profile and check out the location of the majority of my photos in the a.net database, as well as the website that I run. I think it's fair to say I've been to BOS and am quite familiar with the situation around there.
On an aside, there are actually plenty of great places to watch at BOS that aren't the parking garage, but if you want 33L arrivals/departures (which on Monday due to prevailing winds this will most certainly be) you don't have much choice.
JCarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 219 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13819 times:
It's planned to arrive RWY 33L no matter config. A380 has certain taxi routes it must follow in BOS. It's parking in NC. I've been told it's bringing cargo but not sure for who or why an A380. BTW Gate E8A has designated an A380 gate if needed. It has its own lead in line and takes out Gate E8B for use.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3562 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13749 times:
Like Airbazar says, Massport is very anal about 'their' airport. They probably figure publicity is fine...as long as it comes AFTER the arrival rather than BEFORE it. I would imagine all sorts of neat footage on the Monday 6/11 PM newscasts and in the Tuesday newspapers...but nothing before then.
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5464 posts, RR: 46 Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13683 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 19): Is a runway long enough to handle the A380 fully loaded?
Why?? An A 380 does not need more runway length than a 747, 777 or 340.
25 YXwatcherMKE: When the A380 was at MKE last summer for the EAA AirVenture I was not that impressed by the A380. Yes it is a full length Double deck a/c, but I think
26 ChrisNH: I think, in a sort of paradoxical way, the fact that the A380 is 'quiet' adds to its appeal. It should be a nice day in Boston. Let's hope the TV news
27 jetfuel: Its taller than a 744 but the 744 is longer and yes the A380 is sadly (environmentally friendly) quiet
28 oly720man: http://www.radarvirtuel.com/ just seen on the above that F-WWDD is heading past AMS from the general direction of Hamburg to presumably overfly southe
29 KL911: Yep, saw it as well, but flt AIB501 was cruising at a course 220 when passing AMS. Guesss this one goes to TLS, and from TLS there will be a different
30 r2rho: The a/c is MSN4, which Airbus is using a lot for airline training flights, and given it's leaving from XFW, I'm assuming a LH crew will be on board. I
31 oly720man: It's now over south Wales, following LH422, D-AIGH, also BOS bound.
32 airbazar: Sorry Your question had such an obvious answer I didn't even bother to check your profile IIRC, for the Concorde "farewell tour" visit, there w
33 dvincent: I was being sarcastic with a hypothetical question. No worries.
34 airbazar: This is very interesting indeed. Could my prognostic above be reversed? LH first to operate A380 to BOS? Wouldn't surprise me the least given their t
35 N766UA: I can confirm the ETA as 1430. Get out there and get some pics!
36 JohnJ: I'm listening to LiveATC right now and as predicted, Runway 33L seems to be taking all the traffic - "winds 340 at 18"; departures on 27. In other wor
37 Icelandair75W: I regularly marshall in aircraft to E8A, I haven't noticed a special lead in line nor stop line either.. same line for all planes. Regardless however
38 dvincent: I have clearance to shoot from the top of the garage today, so I will be taking late lunch to go see the plane. My window is 2:00 to 2:30. The plane w
39 Icelandair75W: NC5 confirmed.. will be arriving at around 1430 local. Exciting!
40 JCarv: Guess Massport hasn't gotten to painting the line but it should be their according to the A380 plan we have. Have we found out the reason for the vis
41 airbazar: I've never bothered to go to the garage for 33L arrivals. Is it any better than Castle Island? Assuming I don't get kicked out right away I suspect
42 dvincent: The weather was nice this morning but it's starting to go cloudy quickly. Hopefully it will clear up as we reach 2:15
43 2707200X: BOS could be a BA A380 destination considering the high volume of traffic.
44 AirPortugal310: is this flight blocked on flightaware, etc?
45 FiestaFlight: Touched down. Pretty cool, although I was about a mile across the harbor. I noticed 2 "chase" cars immediately speed down the runway right after it. C
46 dvincent: Just got back with a camera full of pics. Saw it on the top level of central parking with some American gate agent (if you're reading this forum, you'
47 MBMBOS: Just got back from Constitution Park (2 stops beyond Airport on the Blue Line) where I managed to get a few good shots as it taxied past Terminal E. T
48 KBOS: WCVB (Channel 5) has the video of the landing on it's website...... http://www.thebostonchannel.com/video/22500970/index.html
49 dvincent: Look at the three specks on Central parking. I'm the middle one.
51 ptugarin: Just got back from the airport. I got interviewed for channel 7 at terminal E.
52 Rob2507: I watched it from Hull, coming in from the Atlantic, down over the south shore, and then onto the approach to 33L. Big and quiet, no difference in noi
53 dvincent: Someone emailed me a link to a post on a Finkenwerder spotter's forum for pics on the plane's departure to BOS. Reposting it here since he apparently
54 BigPhilNYC: I'm surprised MassPort kept it hush-hush, but what a great surprise! If it weren't for the 747-8F flight going on, I might have driven or flown up the
56 dvincent: Here's my gallery of pics... and one is in the queue. Really crummy day, but what can ya do? I'm debating on whether or not I want to get up in the mo
57 ChrisNH: The WBZ story explained that the A380 was returning a small submarine to Boston (where it was built) for repairs. I guess the French were using it to
58 JohnJ: Outstanding photos, guys and definitely thanks for sharing. I also ventured out on somewhat of a whim, it being a 2-hour drive for me from Connecticut
59 airbazar: Hey, I did the same thing and so did a lot of other people. I even saw a guy stop on the overpass out of Terminal E to the Sumner Tunnel, where the a
61 ChrisNH: OK. They say this thing carried an unmanned submarine to Boston so it could get repaired. A submarine can fit through a passenger door? And if they di
62 GothamSpotter: I'm guessing it was in the cargo bay. Not sure why they used the A380. Perhaps just a proving run for BOS. Or to send a message to Boeing on 747-8 Da
63 francoflier: I'm guessing the A380's main purpose for this visit was something else (route/alternate proving, crew training...), and the authorities and Airbus (w
64 Reggaebird: Thank you Aeroplaner! Feel free to let us know whenever these special visits are occurring. Boston spotters were very happy yesterday! Here's my atte
65 originalblis: If anyone has more info on the sub that was shipped, i'd love to know some details.[Edited 2010-02-09 03:32:10]
66 ChrisNH: I have to echo this. Without his advance word, hardly anyone would have known about this. Thank you to Aeroplaner!!
67 airbazar: I agree that there has to be an alterior motive. It makes no sense to send an Airbus factory passenger airplane on a commercial cargo mission. Like y
68 dvincent: As far as regular scheduled service goes, which do you think LH would use? The 747-8 (when it's done) or the A380? They consistently send A340-600s or
69 ChrisNH: Re: The discussion on whether Boston can 'handle' the A380. Is it a runway issue or a gate issue? It seems to me that a completely empty A380 (aside f
70 B752OS: I think BOS is far down the line for 380 service. Massport has not taken any steps or offered subsidies like other airports have, to get 380 service.
71 dvincent: Runway 33L should be able to handle any aircraft. However, BOS does have a lot of windy taxiways, which puts other runways as suspect. Fortunately, R
72 JohnJ: The taxiway getting to the departure end of Runway 33L for takeoff seems a bit tough, as it doesn't intersect at a 90-degree angle. I have no idea of
73 B752OS: http://bostonherald.com/business/gen...2&srvc=business&position=4 The Herald is saying the same thing, compatibility checks.
74 airbazar: Runway and taxiway is not the issue at BOS. The bigger issue is the quality of the passenger facilities. Not having a gate for the top level is not m
75 KBOS: Another great photo by Mark Garfinkel graces the Herald article.
76 Lufthansa411: Having talked to both BA and LH staff in Boston, I wouldn't count on seeing an A380 from either airline anytime soon in BOS. Both said that the gate
77 Luniew: Two pictures taken with my BB. In the 2nd photo you can see how much space the A380 takes at Terminal E Tom
78 Reggaebird: A memorable visit indeed!!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/tbird209#p/u/3/NmDvyX2Syi0 http://www.youtube.com/user/tbird209#p/u/1/UuY_tJ1VE7s http://www.
79 BOStonsox: And that's not likely to happen anytime soon, which is unfortunate, since I would love to see the A380 here more often. Oh well.
80 MadameConcorde: Thank you for posting all these nice news links and videos! I bet all the A380 first timers were really impressed though even you see the big flying m
81 airbazar: No offense but I wouldn't put any stock in what ground staff may have to say about this ÃÂ It is obvious from the pic above that this was a tri
82 BOStonsox: How would the legacy carries pulling out bring room for expansion? They don't use Terminal E, and the European carriers aren't going anywhere.
83 airbazar: That's where they have their maintenance facilities too. Legacies are not just reducing frequencies in BOS. They're reducing their entire presence. C
84 Icelandair75w: The reason why the A380 was permitted into Logan was because it was a scheduled cargo flight (there was freight on board; submarines used to attempt t
85 airbazar: Not any different than the constraints/chanllenges that they had during the initial modernization of the terminal. In fact a lot less because a possi
86 ChrisNH: I don't believe that United used a 777 on their Heathrow service; it was always a 767-300. The service died a quick death, as I recall, because there
87 ADent: While there may not be scheduled A380 service for awhile to BOS, wouldn't it be good to prove you can service a diversion?
88 airbazar: You're probably right. But they sure enlarged the hangar to be able to service the 777. http://www.rubb.com/aircraft-hangars-ual-boston-logan.php Whi
89 JohnJ: Heck, if Hartford can handle the A380 you'd certainly think it would be a no-brainer for BOS to do the same, at least for diversions. I'm looking for
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