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Emirates Plane Grounded Due To Terror Scare  
User currently offlineAVLNative From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11041 times:

From :

http://www.zeenews.com/news602257.html

Mumbai: An Emirates airline plane enroute to Dubai aborted take-off at the Mumbai airport on Sunday after an anonymous caller rang up to say that there was a terrorist onboard.

The Emirates Mumbai-Dubai flight EK-502, carrying about 356 passengers, was already on runway and scheduled to take off at 9.58 am when the anonymous call came at 9.30 am, an airport official said.

Following the call, the flight was called back from the runway and all passengers deplaned.

"Checking is on now," an airport official said, adding two passengers were being questioned.

Sources said the anonymous caller gave specific information that the terrorist was occupying seat no 17F.

The development comes in the wake of a threat of terrorists possibly hijacking an Indian plane and crashing it either in an Indian city or in the UK.

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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10844 times:

Living here on Long Island in the afternoons all the Euro flights descend right over my house and I ask myself,...how many terrorists pass over my house everyday?...its a fair question and I know it has an answer I would not like to hear. It is no longer a scary issue to me as I would prefer they show their face and lets get down to business...This stuff will go on forever until we as an aviation community figure out how to confront it head on.

User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1316 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10384 times:

Hmm, according to The Aviation Herard the plane was already airborn:

Quoting The Aviation Herarld:
Incident: Emirates B773 near Mumbai on Feb 7th 2010, bomb hoax

An Emirates Airlines Boeing 777-300, registration A6-EMP performing flight EK-505 from Mumbai (India) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 356 people on board, was climbing out of Mumbai, when the crew was ordered to return to Mumbai following an anonymous warning received by phone, that two specific people on board were part of a terrorist ground called "Lashkar-e-Taiba" and might carry a bomb. The airplane landed safely about 15 minutes after departure and taxied to a remote area on the apron. All passengers and crew disembarked, a married couple was detained by police.

A search of the airplane, passengers and luggage revealed no evidence of explosives on board.

The airplane was permitted to depart again and reached Dubai with a total delay of 4 hours with all but the two detained passengers.

The detained wife was soon released. Her husband is still being interrogated by police.



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User currently offlinestar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10099 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 1):
Living here on Long Island in the afternoons all the Euro flights descend right over my house and I ask myself,...how many terrorists pass over my house everyday?...its a fair question and I know it has an answer I would not like to hear. It is no longer a scary issue to me as I would prefer they show their face and lets get down to business...This stuff will go on forever until we as an aviation community figure out how to confront it head on.

Huh? What does this have to do with the topic? Why do you only wonder this when you see the "Euro" flights - what about the domestic US ones?  


User currently onlineDAL763ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9986 times:
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Quoting star_world (Reply 3):
Huh? What does this have to do with the topic? Why do you only wonder this when you see the "Euro" flights - what about the domestic US ones?

Maybe he just thinks that EVERYONE across the pond is a terrorist
 



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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9891 times:

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 4):

Wasn't it US domestic flights on which 9/11 occurred?



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9889 times:
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Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 4):
Maybe he just thinks that EVERYONE across the pond is a terrorist

Talk about profiling! Ridiculous.



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User currently offlineOhTheDrama747 From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9561 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 1):

Good Christ, what a way to live.

On topic, hope it was a hoax and nothing worse.


User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9306 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 1):
Living here on Long Island in the afternoons all the Euro flights descend right over my house and I ask myself,...how many terrorists pass over my house everyday?...its a fair question and I know it has an answer I would not like to hear. It is no longer a scary issue to me as I would prefer they show their face and lets get down to business...

A fair question?
How many 09/11 flights were so-called "euro flights" again, please remind us?
Have you ever visited planet earth?

Anyway, hope they find the hoaxer, if it was indeed a hoaxer.
A few years back there was a jealous guy who phoned the "bomb squad", tipping them off about a flight with his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend on, with seat number and all.

Hope they punished him hard.

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User currently offlinespacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3611 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8888 times:

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 1):
Living here on Long Island in the afternoons all the Euro flights descend right over my house and I ask myself,...how many terrorists pass over my house everyday?

And your answer is zero.

How many attacks have you seen in the United States caused by foreign terrorists since 9/11? The answer is none. And the only two attempts that I can remember were two foreign individuals (over the span of nine years, mind you) flying to and from US cities nowhere near New York.

I'm not saying there are no potential terrorists in the United States. But your way of thinking about it is ridiculous. Convincing yourself that there are dangerous people out to get you all around you is pretty much the textbook definition of paranoia.

And btw, I live right next to JFK and watch the same planes landing that you do.

Let me put it another way. New York City still has around 600 murders per year. Many of those murderers (around 30%) are never caught. That means that given an average lifespan, there could be around 10,000 murderers walking around the NYC area that have never been caught - plus more that served their time and are now out of prison. (The average sentence for killing somebody is only about 15 years.) Yet I somehow doubt that you live in constant fear of them, even though they have actually killed people and they are, in real life and not just some fantasy world, walking around among us after doing so - and yes, flying in airplanes above you.

Yet still you worry so much about foreign terrorists that haven't killed anybody on US soil in the last nine years?

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 4):
Maybe he just thinks that EVERYONE across the pond is a terrorist

Doesn't seem to be an uncommon idea around here these days.



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8254 times:

Gosh I can't believe some of the tosh coming out here... Obviously the Republican party's policy of scaremongering is working a treat on Long Island...

[Edited 2010-02-07 13:40:40]


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User currently offlineBalZ18 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7558 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 10):
Obviously the Republican party's policy of scaremongering is working a treat on Long Island...

Wait what now!? How might I ask do you assume this is all the Republican Parties fault?????



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User currently offlinemagyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7378 times:

Quoting star_world (Reply 3):
Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 1):
Living here on Long Island in the afternoons all the Euro flights descend right over my house and I ask myself,...how many terrorists pass over my house everyday?...its a fair question and I know it has an answer I would not like to hear.

Next time when you ask the hypocritical question "Why do they hate us?", just read your post and walk to a mirror, the answer will be right in front of you!


User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6967 times:

At the risk of appearing to back an unpopular side there was the shoe bomber guy and that goof ball who set his crotch on fire while landing at DTW at Christmas, so you could argue that some foreign people with terror like intentions have come from Europe to the US via aircraft (even if they started form some other country the final flight at X-mas was from AMS). Whether or not they flew over NYC I couldn't tell you because I'm to lazy to check. Who knows, maybe there have been others who decided mid flight that they weren't going to bother and just use the free ticket to the US of A to start a new and better life. We'll never know. As a person I respect well once said, "No country has a monopoly on smarts, stupidity or arseholes, so don't trust anybody."  
Now I can show my ignorance and ask what sort of terrorist would attack an Arab airline. Or is this some sort of domestic Indian thing and the target was any airliner and the fact that it ended up being EK was just a coincidence?



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User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6689 times:

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 4):
Maybe he just thinks that EVERYONE across the pond is a terrorist

Way to speculate pal. He never said EVERYONE. However Umar Farouk Abdul-mutallab says he has a reason to wonder that.

Quoting Andz (Reply 6):

Talk about profiling! Ridiculous.

It's not that ridiculous. The terrorists want to harm Americans, and if they're coming into the U.S. internationally, 95% of their flights originate in Europe from the Middle East or wherever. Look up the stats and you'll see it. The 9/11 hijackers, etc, they all come through Europe and I hate to say it but the airport security is not that good, or else they wouldn't keep coming here through Europe. Hopefully TSA steps their game up and stop these guys from entering the country.

Quoting gkirk (Reply 5):

Wasn't it US domestic flights on which 9/11 occurred?

However, the Hijackers originally came here on flights originating from Europe.

Quoting magyar (Reply 12):

Next time when you ask the hypocritical question "Why do they hate us?", just read your post and walk to a mirror, the answer will be right in front of you!

That's a little unfair. As a U.S. resident, he has a right to ask that question. I personally put a question mark on Airport security from abroad, because they might not take as many precautions as we do when it comes to security.



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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6625 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 14):
That's a little unfair. As a U.S. resident, he has a right to ask that question. I personally put a question mark on Airport security from abroad, because they might not take as many precautions as we do when it comes to security.

Sorry but this just shows that America feels that what they do is so much better than elsewhere. This is the reason that America is so disliked around the world. Arrogance and ignorance. Not good qualities.


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2711 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 14):
The 9/11 hijackers, etc, they all come through Europe and I hate to say it but the airport security is not that good, or else they wouldn't keep coming here through Europe. Hopefully TSA steps their game up and stop these guys from entering the country.
Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 14):
I personally put a question mark on Airport security from abroad, because they might not take as many precautions as we do when it comes to security.

You want to put "a question mark on airport security from abroad" : well, which one of the 200 hundred or so countries ABROAD do you mean?? - or is it just "them and us"?? - just asking.

If you put a question mark on all non-US airport security (bizarre statement); then you must put a FAIL against all US airport security, whose failure was absolute on 9/11 and is now just painful theatre, hassle and hysteria.



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User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 15):
Sorry but this just shows that America feels that what they do is so much better than elsewhere. This is the reason that America is so disliked around the world. Arrogance and ignorance. Not good qualities.

I'm not trying to be ignorant. I'm simply stating that if other countries took more precautions against letting terrorists through their airports, guys like soon7x7 wouldn't have to live day to day worrying about terrorists.

I'm sure living in Australia, you don't worry about terrorists traveling there from the U.S. The reason being that since 9/11, we've done everything we possibly can from stopping terrorists, or anyone that we suspect of being terrorist, from freely traveling domestically or internationally.

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 16):

If you put a question mark on all non-US airport security (bizarre statement); then you must put a FAIL against all US airport security, whose failure was absolute on 9/11 and is now just painful theatre, hassle and hysteria.

Uh huh, and how many cases since 9/11 domestically, other than the shoe bomber? As opposed to the amount internationally from Europe, including the plan to blow up planes over the Atlantic with flights originating from the U.K. Then the attempted Christmas day bombing from a flight that originated from Amsterdam.

And I don't want to stray too much off topic, but when terrorist want to kill you, we have a right to be arrogant. As for being disliked. THANK YOU, we do appreciate it. 

[Edited 2010-02-07 16:55:03]


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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 17):
I'm not trying to be ignorant. I'm simply stating that if other countries took more precautions against letting terrorists through their airports, guys like soon7x7 wouldn't have to live day to day worrying about terrorists.

I'm sure living in Australia, you don't worry about terrorists traveling there from the U.S. The reason being that since 9/11, we've done everything we possibly can from stopping terrorists, or anyone that we suspect of being terrorist, from freely traveling domestically or internationally.

Actually yes I do worry about American originating pax too. I do not put US Security above any other. As stated above, the US security still has holes in it and that was made clear in the latest incident with the failed attack in DTW. The intellegence was there and was not even communicated to the relevant people in your own country. The scanners used were the same as the ones that were in use by American airports also. Not sure how I feel all warm and snug tucked up in bed thinking how safe all visitors cpoming from the US must be entering into our country here.

Sorry, not being smart, but pointing fingers and blaming others is a typing trait I have seen from Americans on here and really do not appreciate it. The rest of the world have done there part too and saying anything otherwise is a complete mistruth.


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2711 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6337 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 17):
Uh huh, and how many cases since 9/11 domestically, other than the shoe bomber? As opposed to the amount internationally from Europe, including the plan to blow up planes over the Atlantic with flights originating from the U.K. Then the attempted Christmas day bombing from a flight that originated from Amsterdam.

Uhhm, the foiling of the plot to blow up multiple planes over the Atlantic was a great example of effective UK police work. The did NOT get through UK / EU security, so they are hardly an example for you to be using. In fact, that is the real way to fight terrorism and something the US security services could learn a lot from. Terrorism is a civil crime required Police work to combat it; not invasions of countries on specious pretenses. The Christmas day bomber got through with a thin layer of plastic explosive in his underwear and most probably would have also at the time from all US airports.

I agree with the other posters: Islamic extremism is a fact of life we all loath and want to see disappear; However, it is America's ignorance and arrogance, popularly and in foreign policy built on populist politics, that is the cocktail that inflames hatred toward the US and unfortunately to its allies also. Speaking of "security abroad", i.e. the rest of the planet, is further proof of isolationist, uninformed and ultimately dangerous thinking.

[Edited 2010-02-07 17:16:15]


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User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2758 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6290 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 17):
And I don't want to stray too much off topic, but when terrorist want to kill you, we have a right to be arrogant. As for being disliked. THANK YOU, we do appreciate it.

Sorry, but I don't follow your logic: when terrorist what to kill you, you have the right to be arrogant? Why is that?

Now I guess that since I'm from Spain, where al-Qaida perpetrated the attacks in March 2004 (200 dead), and where the ETA has been killing innocents since the 1950s, I must have the right to be uber-arrogant? What about the Britons, after the IRA and al-Qaida? The citizens from India? Israel? Or do you believe the USA is the only country that has ever suffered terrorism?

And yet, Britons, Spaniards, Indians, etc, are not universally disliked...



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User currently offline747438 From UK - England, joined Jan 2007, 837 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6240 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 14):
I personally put a question mark on Airport security from abroad, because they might not take as many precautions as we do when it comes to security.



Hahahha. You are joking I hope. I work in airport security at LHR and on a daily basis deal with flights that have originated in the USA. The volume of prohibited and dangerous items found in hand luggage of those pax flying in from the USA is very worrying indeed. On a daily basis we find knives, from carving to hunting, live bullets, gun parts, guns and CS spray etc. To say that USA security take greater precautions when it comes to airport/airline security is sadly false.It seems that there is very little care taken over flights that are departing the USA.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6217 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 17):
And I don't want to stray too much off topic, but when terrorist want to kill you, we have a right to be arrogant. As for being disliked. THANK YOU, we do appreciate it.Â

I did not notice this line earlier but it really does show the maturity level, or should I say lack of sense, of the user to say such a thing. Enough said.

Lets get back to the topic.


User currently offlinemagyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6217 times:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 14):
That's a little unfair. As a U.S. resident, he has a right to ask that question. I personally put a question mark on Airport security from abroad, because they might not take as many precautions as we do when it comes to security.

Well, before you are placing those question marks, you might want to ask your own State Department why the "pant bomber" had a valid US visa after his own father warned the US authorities about his terrorist inclinations. Keep your own home clean before judging others.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6182 times:

Just remembered that this would be the 2nd EK security scare in a month (other was in LHR). Seems like either an escallation of hostile action against EK and Dubai or just unlucky coincidence that an EK airliner was targeted.

25 BalZ18 : To: FuturePilot16: Sir you need to lay down and play dead. As an American born and raised I know that the world hates us and I'm sorry for that. If I
26 MAN2SIN2BKK : OK, this is getting boring. Back to the topic of this thread please; was this a hoax or is the guy in seat 17F still being held?
27 Post contains images FuturePilot16 : But they were plotting to go through LHR, were they not. If it wasn't for great police work, that would have been another tragic day in human histroy
28 ojas : Here the US intelligence failed, those hijackers came from whichever plane, came as "normal" passengers. And it is not that these terrorists will che
29 YYZatcboy : It might just be convenient to connect through Europe vs Asia? The targets are on the US east coast, so the shortest way there is through Europe? Why
30 FuturePilot16 : Says who? Los Angeles is just as desirable a target as NYC. No, it's just that they keep doing it THROUGH Europe.
31 YYZatcboy : Says read the rest of the statement. It is one possible answer to your question about why they choose Europe. Let me help... (If) The targets are on
32 SA7700 : This thread will be locked due to the fact that it has gone way off-topic. Any posts made after the thread lock will be deleted for housekeeping purpo
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