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Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2863 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3885 times:

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I'm hoping that someone can answer this for me...

Looking at DL schedules for PDX-AMS and PDX-NRT for tomorrow, it looks to me like DL has a 763 on the ground in PDX for most of the day... either that or I'm not reading things right.

For example:

Tomorrow's flights (Mon 8 Feb)
DL 70 NRT-PDX arrives 0750
DL 179 AMS-PDX arrives 1220
DL 178 PDX-AMS departs 1240
DL 71 PDX-NRT departs 1240 (also)

The only way this makes sense is if a) there's another flight moved to 763 during the day (which I don't see), or b) if there's a 763 at PDX for most of the day (which wouldn't make sense for the days that AMS doesn't operate).

What am I missing?

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Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3140 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Thread starter):
What am I missing?

Nothing, you pretty much nailed it.

PDX-NRT runs daily but PDX-AMS only runs 4x weekly (I think). Because of that, there are some bizarre 763 rotations in PDX. Sometimes the NRT bird will come in and turn right back to NRT. Other days it will come in and turn out to AMS. The AMS-PDX rotations are even more bizarre. Sometimes they will come in and turn out to NRT, and other days they will arrive and then sit overnight until the next day's NRT flight.

Right now on the winter schedule there is a lot of slack in the 763ER fleet so I don't think it's a big deal that some of the ships have a lot of down time in PDX on the rotations between NRT & AMS. For the summer though, I'd imagine that the schedules will be changed sightly to allow for immediate rotations on AMS-PDX-NRT and NRT-PDX-AMS so as to not have aircraft that sit overnight.

A340-500: 4 engines 4 long haul. 777-200LR: 2 engines 4 longer haul

PHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
For the summer though, I'd imagine that the schedules will be changed sightly to allow for immediate rotations on AMS-PDX-NRT and NRT-PDX-AMS so as to not have aircraft that sit overnight.

In Summer, PDX-AMS is swapped to Airbus equipment.

Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3140 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 2):
In Summer, PDX-AMS is swapped to Airbus equipment.

So far....

DL has a great propensity to load in schedules that are impossible and amend them as time goes on. Just recently they switched SFO-NRT to 763 from A332 - more than likely the same will happen to PDX.

Especially since DL has 11x A332's and their summer schedules would demand something like 12 or 13 of them, they are definitely going to have to swap in A333's or 763's in a lot of routes.

A340-500: 4 engines 4 long haul. 777-200LR: 2 engines 4 longer haul

web500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

Quote:
Tomorrow's flights (Mon 8 Feb)
DL 70 NRT-PDX arrives 0750
DL 179 AMS-PDX arrives 1220
DL 178 PDX-AMS departs 1240
DL 71 PDX-NRT departs 1240 (also)

did i read that right; do they download, go through customs, and upload a 763 for departure in 20 mins? that i think rivals WN in the turn time, and WN only has 737 that fly domestic.

there must be another 763 that comes in and rotates onto one of those flights, when does the flight from ATL arrive?

pdx From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Just checked 01JUN availability and DL has upgraded their equipment. PDXNRT is 764 and PDXAMS (as mentioned above) is 332! Very cool for those of us enthusiasts at PDX! Hope the flights stay successful as there have been rumors of their demise from time to time. So sad to lose LH and MX...but PDX still rocks!!

BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1870 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

an upgrade to the -400 is VERY surprising

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Anyone have more info if that's going to stick, or if it's just a glitch from the NWA/Delta res. integration??

They're not handing trophies out today

Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2863 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 6):
an upgrade to the -400 is VERY surprising

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Anyone have more info if that's going to stick, or if it's just a glitch from the NWA/Delta res. integration??

I think that it's a glitch. On DL's flight info page, it shows today's DL71 PDX-NRT as a 764 when obviously it's not.

timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

It's just the ongoing bug on delta.com. PDX-NRT is still on a -300.

ZKNBS From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

Working at PDX I have observed the following.

DAL70 NRT-PDX arrives 7:50 to gate D-15.
DAL179 AMS-PDX arrives 12:20 to gate D14.
DAL71 PDX-NRT departs12:40 from gate D-15
DAL178 PDX-AMS departs 12:40 from gate D11* (this aircraft is the RON aircraft which arrived the previous day from AMS to gate D-14, it is repositioned overnight to gate D11.

In the morning around 8:00 am there are usually four 767's on the D concourse:

Two Delta 767's at D11 & D15 and two Hawaiian 767's at D4 and D10. That is about as much heavy metal as PDX sees at one time save for diversions from SEA.

web500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

so they park a 763 overnight at PDX, must have a lot of slack in the 763 fleet.

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