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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1255 posts, RR: 3
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7988 times:

http://intransit.blogs.nytimes.com/2...must-pay-for-blankets-on-american/

Quote:
American Airlines quietly announced last week that it would eliminate free blankets in coach and sell an $8 packet that includes a pillow and blanket starting May 1.

Not to say this is new, as Jetblue and US Airways are already charging, but one must wonder, when will it stop? Or better yet, why not include the price in the ticket already?

Doesn't really matter to me, I always bring my own blanket and neck pillow.


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User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7740 times:

Quoting JakeOrion (Thread starter):
Doesn't really matter to me, I always bring my own blanket and neck pillow.

Same here...

Having worked for an airline that didnt clean its blankets daily, I would never use one that wasnt pre-packaged. Disgusting doesnt even do the situation justice IMO



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User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7664 times:

Don't forget they give you a $10 coupon off from Bed Bath & Beyond when you spend $30 or more dollars there. LOL!

Quoting JakeOrion (Thread starter):
one must wonder, when will it stop?

As A.net common knowledge dictates, "it's the customer's fault" of course. I swear the GM - Chrysler school of management has taught the legacies management how to run a successful business......... into the ground that is.


User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7652 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 1):
I would never use one that wasnt pre-packaged

Does that imply/guarantee that it was cleaned?

Thanks.


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 3):
Does that imply/guarantee that it was cleaned?

I can't say with any certainty that it does, no

My assumption is that a laundromat/cleaning company does that. Maybe someone in the know can say



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13767 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7583 times:
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Quoting JakeOrion (Thread starter):
why not include the price in the ticket already

Because - unlike common 'free' blankets and pillows that were rarely cleaned - these are packaged pillow/blanket sets that are the customer's to keep once they buy it. And furthermore, as has been shown, customers (generally) are unwilling to pay a slightly-higher ticket price that includes free amenities. When given a choice between an all-inclusive price of X vs. a slightly-lower price of Y with 'a-la carte' pricing add-ons for amenities, they'll generally choose Y. So airlines are responding accordingly.



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User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7575 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 4):
My assumption is that a laundromat/cleaning company does that. Maybe someone in the know can say

I would assume they will be new and yours to keep. I'm sure they are using a contact manufacturer in Zhejiang, Jinhua, Ningbo or similar as there's two or three dozen manufacturers there making those crappy, static cling filled, plastic blankets. You can get a 52" or similar width blanket with your logo on it for about $3.00 prepackaged in 1,000 gross volumes or more.


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7483 times:

I prefer getting a pillow and blanket on board (that's been cleaned of course). If I have to bring my own blanket and pillow, it only makes it more stuff for me to carry. Either way, I rarely use them anyway, only on longer overnight flights (longer than 8 hours).


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User currently offlineexFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7410 times:

Has anyone seen anything indicating that there's some sort of coupon in the AA pillow/blanket pack, like JetBlue has?

Quoting JakeOrion (Thread starter):
Or better yet, why not include the price in the ticket already?

I never use blankets on a plane, so why should my ticket price include a service I don't use?


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7260 times:

Quoting exFATboy (Reply 8):
I never use blankets on a plane, so why should my ticket price include a service I don't use?

Good point, and that is the direction we are more and more heading into. Ticket is basic transportation from A to B. Everything you want on top of that, you have to pay for, such as meals, drinks, blankets, pillows, etc. I really hope not all airlines go this route though. I prefer all inclusive tickets (especially on long haul flights) that include a meal, drinks, a CLEAN blanket, etc.



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7233 times:

My simple instruction to the team who book my flights is, "No Amercian carrier, anywhere, any time." And yes, I can manage transcontinental US on QF and most of my other visits to the US are O&D east or west coast, so hasn't been a logistical problem yet ( Of course I still have to deal with the whole TSA nasty, nonetheless).


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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1545 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

I read the article in the USA Today between classes, and was actually impressed with the last bit of the article. The author mentioned that it's not the airline's fault per se, it's the American people for always wanting lower and lower fares, so this is what you get. I know it's been said on here over and over, but it's nice to see it in writing in mass media. Unfortunately I think the traveling public is probably too dense to even realize that it was their fault to begin with (although not entirely, of course).

User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7137 times:

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 11):
The author mentioned that it's not the airline's fault per se, it's the American people for always wanting lower and lower fares, so this is what you get.

Correct in a sense. They know that people will pay it, and the amount of extra revenue makes it worth their while. As a previous posted mentioned, the airline can buy it for $3 and then they turn around and sell for $7?! Thats a great markup!

I doubt very few people, if any, will stop flying an airline just because they make you pay for something you could bring onboard anyways.



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User currently onlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7113 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 5):
Because - unlike common 'free' blankets and pillows that were rarely cleaned - these are packaged pillow/blanket sets that are the customer's to keep once they buy it. And furthermore, as has been shown, customers (generally) are unwilling to pay a slightly-higher ticket price that includes free amenities. When given a choice between an all-inclusive price of X vs. a slightly-lower price of Y with 'a-la carte' pricing add-ons for amenities, they'll generally choose Y. So airlines are responding accordingly.

Exactly.. When the majority of customers shop for a ticket you better believe the first thing they click on is "cheapest fare." The airlines are responding accordingly. Funny how MANY on here think airline employees should continue to take concessions, yet such an uproar when the costs of what some customers may or may not deem valuable is passed along, its the worst thing possible. Wake up folks, the hotel and restaurant ammenities are being removed from the aircraft! Domestically, at least, air travel has become public transportation at best. A pillow and blanket are not necessary to get you from point A to point B. The majority of passengers would loudly object to ANY costs being tacked onto the price of the ticket.. Those that wouldn't are certainly the minority. Again, its an OPTION available if the customer so chooses.



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User currently offlinecontrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

I keep thinking back to something a friend, who is a bit older than me, once told me about the demise of passenger train service. He said that one of the things that turned people away from trains was all the nickel and dime charges, including - according to him - charging for blankets.

I can't help but wonder if the airlines aren't making a very serious mistake by instituting these nickel and dime charges, the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

Just a thought.



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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1545 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 12):

I agree, I just hope that it might make some people realize that it's not completely the airline's fault. I do hope AA is successful with this, though. Every little bit helps and I understand the need to do what you have to do to survive.


User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7033 times:

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
He said that one of the things that turned people away from trains was all the nickel and dime charges, including - according to him - charging for blankets.

I would venture to say that the perceived nickel-and-diming of the train services of yesteryear wasn't the only thing that led to its demise, nor was it the most prominent issue. Given the advances to modernity that this country has gained, peoples' time is increasingly more valuable, and faster modes of transportation are favored over the experience of a train ride with a sleeper. Sure, there are many that are afraid to fly, or have the same fascination with trains as we do with planes. However, for the majority, time is money. Not to mention that train tickets aren't much cheaper than plane tickets (and in some cases, more expensive), and an airplane will get you there much more quickly.

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
I can't help but wonder if the airlines aren't making a very serious mistake by instituting these nickel and dime charges, the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

Running the risk of echoing many on here, you can't really nickel-and-dime someone for a product that's merely an option. If you were not allowed to bring your own P&B, food, etc, and forced to purchase them onboard, then yes, that would be nickel-and-diming at its best...or worst, as the case may be. Charging a customer to speak to a customer service agent at the airport would be nickel-and-diming. I'm sure if more airlines were to charge exactly what it cost to be able to offer clean pillows and blankets, meals, checked luggage, IFE, and other amenities to be included in your ticket, there would be an uproar about how expensive it is to travel by air. And the winner in that case would be the airline that decided to offer a cheap fare with a la carte pricing.

I can't tell you how many times I've had customers complain to me about having to pay $350rt for a flight to FLL, when "they always used to pay $99". It appears that what customers these days want is the romance and glamor of air travel from the '50s, attached to a Spirit Airlines price, with the convenience of Southwest's no-hidden-fees policies - in an economy where airlines are at the highest risk of losing being that demand for air travel is extremely elastic. Find me an airline in the US where that's financially possible, and I'll eat my words.

[Edited 2010-02-09 10:54:45]


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
I can't help but wonder if the airlines aren't making a very serious mistake by instituting these nickel and dime charges, the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

The problem is, that with this blanket charge, it is not exactly nickle and diming. Airlines are not required by law to provide these things to pax, so it is not a necessity. If you want it, buy one. AND....the best part? You get to keep it!



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User currently onlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6970 times:

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
I can't help but wonder if the airlines aren't making a very serious mistake by instituting these nickel and dime charges, the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

No, and heres why.

these are the current lowest fares for just a few select cities

JFK-LAX $182 one way
ORD-LGA $84 one way
ORD-LAS $148 one way
ORD-MIA $104 one way
DFW-SAT $49 one way

round trip NOT required.

There is the "deal" in airline travel. Where else can one go from NY to LAX in 6 hrs for $182?
No one could drive ORD to MIA in 3 hrs for less than $104

If you want to bring your own food, wear a coat or bring a blanket, pack right and not check a bag, then you have got yourself a bargain. If you want to pay these prices and expect to receive five star treatment, then you're out of touch with reality.

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User currently offlinenws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 926 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6942 times:

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

Passenger rail has died in the United States for a variety of reason, the main one being the lack of high-speed rail infrastructure. When someone has a choice they will chose the best value. In the United States air travel is usually the best value when compared with rail or bus.

I think the demise of passenger rail has little to do with whatever ancillary charges were added to passenger fares.


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6922 times:

Quoting contrails (Reply 14):
I can't help but wonder if the airlines aren't making a very serious mistake by instituting these nickel and dime charges, the same kind of charges that help to bring passenger rail service to its demise.

I think its a different dynamic...depending on how far you are going, air travel is easily the quickest way there. Trains just cant do it fast enough. The public will gladly sacrifice time saved over nickle and diming. At least I know I would



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User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6894 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 1):
Having worked for an airline that didnt clean its blankets daily, I would never use one that wasnt pre-packaged. Disgusting doesnt even do the situation justice IMO

What about the blankets / pillows that are wrapped in plastic? I usually get them on long haul flights when they are placed on every seat. I assumed they have been cleaned.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6883 times:

Boy, since this seems to have no end in sight...perhaps it's time to grant LH the cabotage rights to fly for example
FRA-JFK-LAS, QF Qantas (on the existing) SYD-LAX-JFK, MX MEX-LAX-SFO (and anyone else) if they want, carrying local traffic. Because if they can provide their excellent inflight services continuously on US domestic runs, and pax want pay their fees ( thus giving US carriers the scare of their lives... ) let 'em. Since the nickel n dime'ing isn't getting the legacies outta the red...perhaps AA/US/UA etc.. may want to seek refuge by getting outta the airline biz and into the auto sales/mfg business.

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13767 posts, RR: 61
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6801 times:
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Quoting BN747 (Reply 22):
perhaps it's time to grant LH the cabotage rights to fly for example
FRA-JFK-LAS, QF Qantas (on the existing) SYD-LAX-JFK, MX MEX-LAX-SFO (and anyone else) if they want, carrying local traffic

Go for it. Their CASM on these local routes will absolutely kill them while the much-leaner U.S. majors eat them alive.



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User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 22):
Boy, since this seems to have no end in sight...perhaps it's time to grant LH the cabotage rights to fly for example
FRA-JFK-LAS, QF Qantas (on the existing) SYD-LAX-JFK, MX MEX-LAX-SFO (and anyone else) if they want, carrying local traffic. Because if they can provide their excellent inflight services continuously on US domestic runs, and pax want pay their fees ( thus giving US carriers the scare of their lives... ) let 'em. Since the nickel n dime'ing isn't getting the legacies outta the red...perhaps AA/US/UA etc.. may want to seek refuge by getting outta the airline biz and into the auto sales/mfg business.

Ding....ding....ding.....ding, WINNER!

The legacies keep repeating their same insane behavior, over and over and over again, and it never helps or works. Sure it may "help" for a few months or a few quarters, but fundamentally they can't figure anything else out other than..... cut employees wages (stupid), cut more services from customers (more stupid), cut all non-safety spending related items like loyalty programs, advertising, branding, and product investments (yet even more stupid), merge with someone else to get bigger in the vain hope you can have some self control not to flood the market with even more "cheap" seats (most stupid). Round and round it goes in the ivory tower of the legacies. "The unions are too expensive". Waaaaaah! "Those customers are just too cheap". Waaaaah! And yet the highest paid employees are those that work at Southwest Airlines.

I remember laughing when Detroit blamed customers for being "hooked" on rebates, and they couldn't get away from them. Yet, Honda and Toyota at the time didn't offer a dime, or 1/3 the amount if they did.

The legacy model of the USA is broken and doesn't work. Period. No additional cost cutting is going to make a hills beans of difference looking back in 5 years. When you whine about being a "commodity" guess what? You are a commodity and you don't deserve $1 more than any other of the commodity whores selling on price and nothing but the price. People aren't willing to pay more because they get nothing for it. The US legacies have no one except themselves to blame.

I have yet to find a single company that tries to be all things to everyone in any industry that has a viable business model long term, in a open market.


25 mauiman31 : Yep. Supposedly --the AA FC/Biz duvets and pillows used on 757- 763-777 long haul are changed out fresh every flight. And new are provided plastic wr
26 EA CO AS : Ding....ding...ding...ding...FAIL. Foreign flag carriers like QF and LH wouldn't stand a chance in the U.S. mainland if cabotage were permitted - the
27 ken777 : And yet the customers who pay many times the "cheapest fare" still get the shaft. You can't distinguish between the "Frills" and "No Frills" customer
28 Raffik : What do you actually get when you fly with a flag carrier like AA. Just a seat and use of the toilets? Wouldn't be too sure. Europe is made up of many
29 Post contains images Aeroflot001 : Hey! Hey! Dont forget about that complimentary non alcoholic beverage of your choice WITH ICE AND THE FULL CAN as well as your free copy of the Ameri
30 Raffik : Oh yes, forgot about that! But so does Southwest! I flew LHR-SFO with UA 2 years ago and asked the flight attendant for a glass of wine and she said
31 Post contains images MoltenRock : A clean seat is extra.   I sometimes think what passes as a "service enhancement" to a number of people here at A.net is if an airline added urinal
32 Post contains images Tugger : So who here collects airline blankets? Who has the complete set?  Now you can collect them without stealing them. (You know some of us will...) Tugg
33 Raffik : Ummm.. Lol I have a VS, BA and ME one. I am planning on returning them. Just thought I'd do them a favour and wash them for them!
34 AirNZ : Precisely correct, and exactly as it should be.......and so does the vast majority here on a.net, contrary to what is loudly implied otherwise. Excep
35 EA CO AS : Not at all. (And don't call me Shirley). QF, LH or whomever flying LAX-PHX or some other shorthaul market will get SLAUGHTERED by their own extremely
36 flyfree727 : Yet the largest frequent flyer programs belong to US based airlines... go figure. AA ORD
37 crosswinds21 : You gotta love the media. I find it hilarious how both USAToday.com and CNN.com had this story on their front pages. Never mind the fact that AA was o
38 crosswinds21 : Exactly right. Airlines like UA and AA may charge for alcohol, but trying going to SQ, EY, or BA and getting a low mileage award to most places in th
39 OzGlobal : As a 'through' passenger on a RTW ticket, I have frequently taken QF LAX-JFK, and the best part is I've been upgraded to international F multiple tim
40 BN747 : Not yet...but just watch in about 3 or 4 years, it'll come to... Passengers wearing flipflops, shorts & T-Shirt = 0 (excess charge) Passengers we
41 EA CO AS : Keep dreaming. On both counts.
42 crosswinds21 : I disagree. I think that if you grant domestic cabotage to foreign carriers, then the foreign carriers are going to succumb to the same overcapacity
43 Post contains links WNCrew : Apparently it already has.... Another thread discussing - "Qantas To Drastically Cut First Class" Qantas To Drastically Cut First Class (by AA7295 Fe
44 MoltenRock : Sorry but I ain't buying it. You're one of the staunchest complainers about VX and AS legal machinations to stop them as being justified and "good".
45 etstar : Air Canada started selling these a while back, and to be perfectly honest with you, it is the best in-flight purchase I have ever made. Actually, the
46 EA CO AS : Then I suggest you start looking at these carriers' respective financial statements, check out their CASM, adjust it upward for FAR shorter stage len
47 Post contains images TheCommodore : You right on there    I would. My thinking exactly. Not so sure about that. How many foreign airlines have filled for bankruptcy or cha
48 EA CO AS : Um...you may not realize it, but you're making my point for me. Those U.S. carriers that have been through Chapter 11 have largely been able to shed
49 Post contains images BN747 : Naivety is entrenched in the minds that lack the foresight to see what is coming especially when the hints and clues have been hitting you in the fac
50 MoltenRock : Of course they haven't because they can't. They, as do their corporate masters at the US legacies hope and pray to St. Crampedseat daily, that the in
51 SASD209 : Sounds good to me....I won't have to pay for a perk that I never use.
52 Post contains images EA CO AS : Ah yes, I see you've chosen the old "I don't have a substantive reply, so I'll resort to rhetoric disguised as wisdom," retort. A timeless classic.
53 BN747 : That makes no sense, now if AA took 8 bucks off your current ticket prices for a service you don't use..you'd then have a case (and a deal) . But as
54 coolfish1103 : If foreign carriers think it will cost them more to operate a domestic flight in the US, then they will opt to not offer the service. Why would they b
55 faro : That is exactly the point: when will it stop? If people keep on accepting such practices, will we one day see pay toilets, inflight walking/standing
56 Raffik : If I am flying with Southwest or Jetblue or any other budget airline, then I wouldn't expect anything apart from my seat. However, my gripe is that A
57 Post contains images AviationMaster : IMO legacy carriers in the US will never change unless something is done with the Chapter 7-11 concept. Thanks to Chapter 11, it seems as if they alw
58 EA CO AS : Well gosh, why didn't we think of this sooner? All this time, the solution was right there in front of us all along - we just have to increase the ti
59 flyfree727 : It will stop when passengers stop paying for them. Take a look at baggage fees and buy on board food.. Generates millions and millions BECAUSE passen
60 flyfree727 : And that is the problem with consumers. AA offers the same fare, and in some cases LOWER than WN where we compete, yet because of the name American A
61 mauiman31 : Well said. Blanket fees, food fees, baggage fees, etc. don't really influence me. AA and WN are the carriers I fly the most. . . and yes fares are ru
62 BN747 : Assertion? What assertion? I did however make a suggestion. One you dislike for reasons other than your CASM vs RASM analysis and one blinding you fr
63 Post contains images UnitedFA07 : How pathetic of you! Those who want free alcohol on every flight, all I have to say is LUSH! Not everyone in the world grows up with a beer/wine bott
64 EA CO AS : This one: Why do you have selective memory about what you've posted? And before you get cute saying this was merely a "suggestion," lets look at the
65 BN747 : Logic (backed by past performance) suggests that the Legacies would 'respond'? Will they respond as I suggested? You don't know. I'm not sure how the
66 BN747 : I can see the QF ads now... ''Are you on edge each and every time you fly with one of these little fellas (points to a 757 or 767) from Los Angeleez t
67 EA CO AS : Sure, I've got no problem with the fact the U.S. majors are adapting to the marketplace. Customer preferences have shown repeatedly that the lowest p
68 BN747 : And that's exactly where 'thinking-outside-the-box' cabotage rights come into play. Waiting for the marketplace to change is truly aged thinking...ch
69 coolfish1103 : I can see the following Asian airlines do decent/well in these services if domestic cabatoge is gone. However, we know it won't happen cause the emplo
70 EA CO AS : I understand your point, but I don't know that you understand mine. Foreign carriers, for the most part, are subject to the same marketplace realitie
71 Post contains images BN747 :    Good point Coolfish, I've enjoyed those short haul services and because of what I see here in the US, I can't believe in the year 2010, those ca
72 BN747 : Yes, and we've seen this scenario played out on numerous occasions when.. American took over LCC - Air Cal USAir took LCC - PSA Delta took over Weste
73 viscount724 : I never use blankets on flights, shorthaul or longhaul, whether they're in a sealed plastic bag or not. I've heard too many stories that blankets tha
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