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Alaska- Coke In Jones Out.  
User currently offlinesocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Too bad. I really enjoyed the Jones Soda's onboard. Especially when they had the special flavors.


http://www.alaskasworld.com/Newsroom...s/ASstories/AS_20100209_090759.asp

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5723 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

This is a sad day in aviation indeed....       I was planning on flying AS for my first time soon just for the damn JONES!


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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Wow, that is really disappointing. The Jones Soda onboard was a unique item that I always really looked forward to, as I find it to taste far, far better than Coke or Pepsi. Especially the special flavors and the Lemon-Lime and Cherry cola.

I actually find it strange how disappointed I am at hearing something as simple as a change in cola, but being a very very frequent AS/QX flyer, I really do not like the change. I remember initially being slightly opposed to the change, but after tasting the Jones sodas, my complaints immediately turned into compliments. I do remember hearing people psuedo-complain onboard when they were told that there was none of the mainstream colas onboard (except for 7up I think). Oh well, I guess I won't complain if AS expands their food offerings like they have been testing.

But still, ack, I really loved the Jones cola, and it was one of the highlights of traveling on AS/QX. I guess you just can't please everyone.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Quoting socalatc (Thread starter):
Alaska- Coke In Jones Out.

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jones was the main reason why I have been flying on AS lately! This is truly a sad day! I am deeply disappointed in whoever made this horrible decision! Shame on them!!!!   

Quoting Airport (Reply 2):
I find it to taste far, far better than Coke or Pepsi.

   Ditto, dat, dude!!!

I wonder how this will affect business at Jones... Too bad you can only get the Pure Cane Cola in PNW area stores, more notably at Costco! Or.....you can order it online, at a hefty price.



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User currently offlinesocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
  I was planning on flying AS for my first time soon just for the damn JONES!

You have until March 1st..

Quoting Airport (Reply 2):
Especially the special flavors and the Lemon-Lime and Cherry cola.

My favorite was the Berry Lemonade. So good!


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

When is the switchover supposed to begin?? The article does not note that at all.....

I'm still extremely disappointed in the upper management at AS



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2843 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Jones Soda's financials haven't exactly been great lately. I'd be curious to see how much of the $35million in revenue a year they receive is from Alaska. While certainly not a majority, I could see AS being one of their largest customers. There was talk last year that they were close to being purchased by Big Red.


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User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2563 times:



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
This is a sad day in aviation indeed.... I was planning on flying AS for my first time soon just for the damn JONES!



Quoting Airport (Reply 2):
Wow, that is really disappointing. The



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jones was the main reason why I have been flying on AS lately!



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
I'm still extremely disappointed in the upper management at AS!

Wow, you all must be the only people who like it then. There have been calls since day one to go back to Coke. I think having Jones has been probably one of the biggest complaints in the past couple years. Sorry you all are disappointed. I am too because I like supporting local companies. But AS management really did what the customers asked for.

In my opinion it had little to do with cost because I think the Jones deal was better than anything Coke offered.

[Edited 2010-02-09 11:10:30]

User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
When is the switchover supposed to begin?? The article does not note that at all.....

The article does state March 1st.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 8):
The article does state March 1st.

My bad, I skipped that part.... I stand corrected.



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User currently offlineAirportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3717 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Are some really serious when they say that they fly an airline just because of the brand of soda served onboard???


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User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1204 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

There's been some talk in Seattle lately that Jones is having financial difficulties.

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
In my opinion it had little to do with cost because I think the Jones deal was better than anything Coke offered.

Actually, I've heard the Jones Soda provided a cost neutral change for Alaska Airlines. It wasn't any better than what Alaska was paying for Coke. The reason for switching to Jones Sodas was to provide a premium product made in the northwest. There are several reasons for switching back to Coke, the biggest not necessarily being that customers demanded Coke. Jones was not interested in continuing to produce a canned soda. Additionally, there were concerns about Jones future as they were experiencing severe financial difficulties.


User currently offlineBNAFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Too bad. Jones knocks Coke out of the park on taste. Goes to show what being the largest soft drink company in the world can do for you. $$$ ALWAYS wins over quality. Another competitor goes by the wayside.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
Are some really serious when they say that they fly an airline just because of the brand of soda served onboard???

You would be amazed as to the reasons why one flies on a particular airline........



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 10):
Are some really serious when they say that they fly an airline just because of the brand of soda served onboard???

Apparently you haven't tasted Jones.  

It was one of the things that made me very eager to fly AS, no doubt. I definitely choose AS when I can for the service, and the Jones soda was a factor, but it obviously isn't the only reason I choose them.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13736 posts, RR: 61
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2274 times:
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Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 11):
Jones Soda provided a cost neutral change for Alaska Airlines

That's correct.

While Jones is a great product, Coke products are overwhelmingly what our customers preferred - not to mention this will cut down on the awkward exchanges you'd always hear between the flight attendants and the passengers:

"Hello, what would you like to drink today?"

"Diet Coke."

"Diet Cola? Okay..."

"No, Diet COKE..."

"I'm sorry, we don't carry Coke products but we do carry Jones Diet Cola. Would that be okay?"



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User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

Isn't Jones Soda based in Seattle? If so, then it's really disappointing that AS would drop their hometown beverage company in favor of Coke. I completely agree with everyone who said that Jones tastes better than Coke or Pepsi. Knowing what I know about the average American consumer though - the type of consumer that must always have everything brand name - it wouldn't surprise me that they demanded Coke.

User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5827 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

Not a soda fan, so I don't care, but it's really irritating how Americans rely on brand names like a 2-year-old with his security blankie.   

User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2556 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

There's been some talk in Seattle lately that Jones is having financial difficulties.

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
In my opinion it had little to do with cost because I think the Jones deal was better than anything Coke offered.

Actually, I've heard the Jones Soda provided a cost neutral change for Alaska Airlines. It wasn't any better than what Alaska was paying for Coke. The reason for switching to Jones Sodas was to provide a premium product made in the northwest. There are several reasons for switching back to Coke, the biggest not necessarily being that customers demanded Coke. Jones was not interested in continuing to produce a canned soda. Additionally, there were concers a

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
Too bad you can only get the Pure Cane Cola in PNW area stores, more notably at Costco! Or.....you can order it online, at a hefty price.

Nope. You can indeed get Jones in other locations. We have a few stores here in TUS that carry Jones-the corner store at University Boulevard and Fourth Avenue carries probably 20 soda verities, the minority being Coke products. They don't carry Jones, but they do carry some older name brands-got Moxie there.



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User currently offlinesocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 7):
Wow, you all must be the only people who like it then. There have been calls since day one to go back to Coke

I bet that after March 1st Alaska starts getting calls to bring back Jones. Just the way people are.


User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

I'm already certain the answer to this question is no -- but could they offer both Coke products and Jones products? If not, why?

Keep the same amount of actual soda cans onboard, but make the ratio something like 70% coke products and 30% Jones products...why couldn't they do that instead of one or the other?


User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Quoting Airport (Reply 20):
Keep the same amount of actual soda cans onboard, but make the ratio something like 70% coke products and 30% Jones products...why couldn't they do that instead of one or the other?

It seems maybe it could be done for like the root beer or cream soda maybe. I've seen airlines that have one full line of one brand and then one random one. I imagine contracts with the main supplier limit how much other soda is allowed under the deal.

But if this is true...

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 18):
Jones was not interested in continuing to produce a canned soda.

Then it makes more sense.


User currently offlineMoltenRock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

This thread is a trip! LOL

May I ask those that have said as much, are you really, honestly, going to switch carriers because of them swapping sodas? Really???

If so, I wonder what exactly they are putting in this beverage, crack? Oh, and where can I get some.   LOL


User currently offlineCatIII From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
I was planning on flying AS for my first time soon just for the damn JONES!

Fortunately they carry it at Whole Foods...or most grocery stores (at least in my area).


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2805 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 18):
Jones was not interested in continuing to produce a canned soda.

The last I had heard, Jones was going to continue the canned soda line, but shrink the package from 12 to 8 cans. The feel that 8 is a more ideal number of cans per package, than 12 or 6. Secondly, by lowering the number of cans they can lower the price, which makes it an easier to entice more impulse buys.

I really wonder if discontinuing the Alaska partnership has something to do with Jones getting sold. The buyout offer from Big Red grossly undervalued the company, but I'm sure it got Jones talking with other potential suitors.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
I wonder how this will affect business at Jones... Too bad you can only get the Pure Cane Cola in PNW area stores, more notably at Costco! Or.....you can order it online, at a hefty price.

Or you can get it at Target and many grocery store chains in the western US. Distribution isn't the problem for Jones Soda. The problem is that they never figured out how to achieve that distribution at sustainable costs.



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