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New Q400 Operator - Jazz Places 15+15 Order  
User currently offlinespyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12898 times:

Air Canada Jazz announced an intention to purchase 15 Dash 8-Q400 NextGen aircraft with options for 15 additional aircraft. The first aircraft is to be delivered May 2011, seating 74 passengers in a single cabin configuration. The first fifteen aircraft will be used to replace 15 50-seat regional jets.

Full press release:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jazz-A...s-cnw-4142044501.html?x=0&.v=1

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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1931 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12847 times:

Good for Bombardier! Their backlogs were in dire need of some new orders.

And always nice to see an operator adding a new type to the fleet.

Cheers!   



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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12819 times:

May 2011 is quite a ways away. I wonder if QK would be interested in Lynx's Q400s being that they seem to be getting put out to pasture sooner than later... In any event, great news for Bombardier!


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User currently offlineAirnerd From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12741 times:

Good news. Only trouble is that they're being used to replace CRJs instead of the very tired DH8-300s we get in PDX.

User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12670 times:

This order has been so long in the making I was suspecting that it was ultimately going to go to ATR. It's interesting to note the total potential order is for up to 30 and what it's implications are on the overall longterm fleet count and mix. My guess is that we will also see the entire DH1 fleet removed if the options are exercised as it will somewhat match the capacity loss. The only downside to the removal of the DH1 fleet is the potential withdrawl of service to certain markets which cannot sustain higher capacity aircraft,ie,50 seats and up.

User currently offlineHotelDJRomeo From Canada, joined Dec 2009, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12628 times:

Quoting Airnerd (Reply 3):
Only trouble is that they're being used to replace CRJs instead of the very tired DH8-300s we get in PDX.

The 300s are certainly getting a little worn...But 50-seat CRJs aren't efficient at all, so it's not a shock to see them go. 74-seat Q400s should be a nice upgrade.

I wonder if there's any plan with this order to get any routes into YTZ to compete with Porter and their Q400s.



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User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1418 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12614 times:

Some great news, looking forward to seeing the "Q" in all four Jazz colours.

Cal   



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12595 times:

Flybe also replaced 37 and 50-seaters with Q400s as their trip costs are only a little higher and you have 37 more seats with potential revenue. I can imagine Jazz' fleet in 10 years to contain 50 Q400s and a small subfleet of the larger CRJs for long trips like Vancouver-Whitehorse.
Indeed good for them to have a new order.



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User currently offlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1746 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12584 times:
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BOS-YHZ would be perfectly doable with Q400s, wouldn't it? It's only 400 something miles. Replacing CR1/2s on that route with Q400s would probably mean a lot more $$$ for Jazz.


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User currently offlineBureaucromancer From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12479 times:

My guess is that as much as Air Canada et al. talk about wanting YTZ back there isn't enough of a market to actually justify a second carrier, particularly with the actual connections available at Pearson. Keep in mind that for the longest time before Porter Ottawa was the only destination available, and at that only once or twice daily.

User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12321 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 7):
Flybe also replaced 37 and 50-seaters with Q400s as their trip costs are only a little higher and you have 37 more seats with potential revenue. I can imagine Jazz' fleet in 10 years to contain 50 Q400s and a small subfleet of the larger CRJs for long trips like Vancouver-Whitehorse.

Flybe serve a very different market than Jazz. This is an important point:

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 4):
The only downside to the removal of the DH1 fleet is the potential withdrawl of service to certain markets which cannot sustain higher capacity aircraft,ie,50 seats and up.

So do AC cut frequencies or even abandon certain markets, or do they use B1900's and increase frequency? The B1900's themselves wont go on forever either, though they have 10 years on many of the Dash's. The only true replacement is an ATR42.

Quoting HotelDJRomeo (Reply 5):
wonder if there's any plan with this order to get any routes into YTZ to compete with Porter and their Q400s.

I dont think so. The only reason to do this would be to 'kill off' Porter, and I dont know how well that would go down in any circle. However, PD may see some pilots disappearing......



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User currently offlineBureaucromancer From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12274 times:

On that note, someone is going to have to develop a new small turboprop in the next decade or so aren't they... I wonder what the prospects for a modernized EMB110 or EMB120 are? I can't really see how the Q100 could BE shrunk any more, let alone efficiently.

As far as Porter goes, it should be noted that as well as the competition issues that would come up with a concerted effort to kill them, the current setup keeps the airport open (and as such, the Feds happy) without Air Canada getting any of the community flak (with a mayoral campaign ongoing no less).

[Edited 2010-02-09 13:07:45]

User currently offlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12069 times:

I imagine the oldest CRJ's that AC orginally bought, and Jazz inherited, will be the first to go. They must have a significant amount of cycles on them. The Q400 will be an improvement on many routes. AC must be feeling some of the loss of business from Porter since they are still looking to re-establish at Toronto City Centre. Lots of business people are using the service and that would be premium traffic for AC. For example Brian Mulroney flew recently on Porter. He would be a J Class customer on AC.

User currently offlineAirnerd From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11934 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 10):
The B1900's themselves wont go on forever either, though they have 10 years on many of the Dash's. The only true replacement is an ATR42.

The ATR 42 (with up to 50 seats) isn't any more oa B1900 replacement than is a Q300. Both have more than double the capacity of the 19 seats in the B1900. The closest replacement still being manufactured is the Q200, but with 37 seats, it's much larger.

Quoting Bureaucromancer (Reply 11):
On that note, someone is going to have to develop a new small turboprop in the next decade or so aren't they... I wonder what the prospects for a modernized EMB110 or EMB120 are?

I agree. There are still many B1900s and EMB 120s flying feeder routes out there. I haven't seen an EMB 110 in airline service for a long time, but maybe they're still out there. But for now, I don't know of anyone seriously considering a new design with less than 30 seats... Maybe there's just no money in it? Perhaps Embraer should dust off the plans for the EMB 123: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer/FMA_CBA_123_Vector... of course, they scrapped the two prototypes back in the 1990s.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0620515

[Edited 2010-02-09 15:51:49]

User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11801 times:

Emb is on to much larger projects, doubt they will touch a 19 seater. Maybe Beech, or Cessna?

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11757 times:

Quoting Airnerd (Reply 13):
The ATR 42 (with up to 50 seats) isn't any more oa B1900 replacement than is a Q300. Both have more than double the capacity of the 19 seats in the B1900. The closest replacement still being manufactured is the Q200, but with 37 seats, it's much larger.

Q200 is out of production as well as the 100 & 300. Only the 400 is being built now.



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User currently offlineBureaucromancer From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11734 times:

What the 123 makes me wonder about is the viability of a minimum change turbo version of the ERJ135. The swept wings might make it unpleasant to fly, but I suspect they aren't to bad for it to work.

The other distinct possibility of course is that Cessna could do something in the ~20-30 seat market in the next decade or so. While I agree that the market might not be huge, there is a definite niche for small props that isn't being filled and can't really be replaced with anything else (although it might not be unreasonable to propose 20 seats on a single engine assuming turbine power).

PS (to avoid double post)

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 15):
Q200 is out of production as well as the 100 & 300. Only the 400 is being built now.

No orders true, but they are still promoting both the 200 and 300. I'll grant that more sales are unlikely, and that the Dash 8 is really a bit much for even 37 seats, let alone smaller. Somehow I don't see Bombardier developing anything smaller than the 8 in any case, especially given the talk of a further stretched Dash 8.

[Edited 2010-02-09 16:48:40]

User currently offlineAirnerd From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11734 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 15):
Q200 is out of production as well as the 100 & 300. Only the 400 is being built now.

Really? They're still marketing it: http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospa...ducts/commercial-aircraft/q-series

Maybe Pilatus will build something larger than the 9-passenger PC-12 in the future?


User currently offlineviscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11702 times:

Quoting Airnerd (Reply 17):
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 15):
Q200 is out of production as well as the 100 & 300. Only the 400 is being built now.

Really? They're still marketing it: http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospa...ducts/commercial-aircraft/q-series

Bombardier announced in 2008 that Q200 and Q300 production would end in 2009 after outstanding orders were completed.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-discontinue-q200q300-in-2009.html


User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11697 times:

what a perfect time to change Jazz's GHASTLY color scheme!... i wish it was something more along the lines of mainline Air Canada!

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11648 times:

What will happen to some of the longer routes, such as YYZ-CLT/RDU that are currently flown with CRJ's. Can those routes handle a Q400 non-stop?


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User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11607 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 20):
What will happen to some of the longer routes, such as YYZ-CLT/RDU that are currently flown with CRJ's. Can those routes handle a Q400 non-stop?

The Q400 has a range of 1567 miles so from YYZ it would have the range...



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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11594 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 20):
What will happen to some of the longer routes, such as YYZ-CLT/RDU that are currently flown with CRJ's. Can those routes handle a Q400 non-stop?

Yes of course albeit longer flight times....

I'm soo excited!! It was only a matter of time as this makes perfect sense....can't wait to see them at RDU...so, will they initially be dumped fleet wide or will we see them only on east coast ops?



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 11381 times:

Quoting Airnerd (Reply 13):
The ATR 42 (with up to 50 seats) isn't any more oa B1900 replacement than is a Q300.

I was talking about DH1 replacement.

In the 19 seat market theres the Viking Twin Otter 400 and the RUAG (Dornier) 228, and I think the GAF Nomad is being resurrected too. My point you all missed is that if Jazz go all Q400, what happens to all the 37 seat DH1 routes??

There are some fields which cant physically take a fully loaded Q400 and other routes, depsite the famous low LF break even point, where 74 seats is way too much capacity. For example, do they upgauge a 3x daily DH1 route to a 1-2x daily Q400, go with a Q400 / B1900 combo or go up to 5x daily all B1900?? New problems created are that lack of frequency may lose O&D customers in competitive regional markets - eg to 8P or Hawkair in YVR - and cause all sorts of bitching & complaining from folk 'losing' air service. Then theres the fact that there are currently not enough B1900's to go around, not to mention the drop in cargo capacity. Im actually surprised Jazz splashed out right now anyway, but Im sure they dont want further cost acquiring 19-30 seaters when what they have just needs freshening up.

Personally I think the older Dash's will be around for a while yet. These Q400's are specifically for the oldest CR1 replacement and the next to go will be the CR2's. No doubt you will see them on a few DH3 routes too, but those Dash's dont owe anyone anything and are built DHC style to soldier on forever if necessary. Some new interiors and hey presto.

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User currently offlineTwizzler From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11271 times:

Quoting viscount724 (Reply 18):

The last production Q200 went to the US Customs and Border Patrol, while the last production Q300 went to the Japanese Coast Guard.

BBD has proposed and are working on certification for a life extension program for the 200/300 line.


25 PI731 : I wonder what success Porter is having with their Q400s had with this order. Esp out of Toronto. I guessing that A.C (Jazz) wanted to keep their aircr
26 kevinasaurus : Glad to see Jazz going with Bombardier! I'd love to see mainline AC operate a C Series when it comes to fruition.
27 rikkus67 : None of those are pressurized aircraft. Considering that the B1900 is, there would be no appetite from the flying public to go back to flying on an u
28 A346Dude : About time! Congrats to Jazz, can't wait to see them. Question though: with 74 seats, do these planes not start to encroach on AC mainline territory?
29 CRJ 900 : The scope clause covers jet aircraft, with respect to turboprops I don't believe there are restrictions. I hope we go entirely to a 70+seat fleet.
30 Post contains images CRJ900 : I thought the Q400 is so economical that they can use it on routes where there are only 20-30 pax on the busiest flights...? With two FAs onboard, se
31 YYZRWY23 : This is excellent news for botk QK and Bombardier. This is definetly a good sign that the industry is starting to expand for the future in terms of f
32 ERJ170 : Can the Q400 have a first/business class section? I could see 3 across on the first 2 or 3 rows instead of 4 across. Is that possible? Are they able
33 BNAFlyer : I don't know about Canada, but a lot of people in the U.S. still carry a lot of phobias about any airplane with propellers. I've flown the Q400 sever
34 KGAIflyer : Last time I came through Lester Pearson on a turboprop (December 27th BWI-YYZ) I saw quite a few Air Georgian B1900D aircraft. According to Wikipedia
35 YYZatcboy : Interesting that they are putting on more seats than PD. The PD Q400's have 70 seats in 18 rows. I guess jazz will do 74 in 19 rows, making the cabin
36 Tangowhisky : It will be interesting when Jazz will start flying Q400s out of Toronto Island Airport with face to face competition against Porter. Porter has excell
37 Post contains links KGAIflyer : Having flown Horizon Air's Q400s -- which also have 74 seats -- I checked Seatguru to see what the configuration actually was on the planes I've flow
38 YYZatcboy : What terminal will they operate out of? The only terminal left will be the new Porter one. I can't see Jazz being allowed in there since it is a priv
39 thegreatRDU : Of course it's possible.. PD had no choice, YTZ's longest runway is 4,000ft...at MTOW Bombardier says the Q400 needs at least 4,600...
40 Tangowhisky : Yes I agree, there are challenges including likely groups of people and politicians protesting like back when Porter was interested flying from there
41 Airnerd : Sure, no reason other than that Jazz operates those routes with 50-seat DH8-300s today, and they have to compete with QX who flies them with 74-seat
42 YYZYYT : YAY! as a regular Jazz flier, I would love to be able to fly a Q400 instead of one of the worn old 100 or 300s that they have now. That said: My most
43 Airnerd : I can only speak for the 300s we get in PDX, but they are so tatty. How about new interiors?
44 Multimark : The Jazz scheme is classier than AC's toothpaste livery. The Jazz Dash-8s received new interiors just a year or two ago.
45 AirCanada014 : Wow its about time Jazz update their DASH turboprop. I"m glad they are sticking with Bombardier although it would be nice to see in ATR flying in Cana
46 Airnerd : Hmmm... my last flights on the Jazz -300s were PDX-YVR and back in June 09, and there was nothing updated about those interiors.
47 KGAIflyer : Hmmm. How odd. That's my comment from reply #34. But someone else (other than me) started this thread.
48 BNAFlyer : I know what a stink it caused in the U.S. when the USAF tanker program looked like it was going to Airbus, and the rumors of Air Force One going to a
49 Bureaucromancer : Short answer no, if anything Bombardier is rather disliked, just take a look at the noise made when Toronto bought our new subway cars without open bi
50 MEA-707 : Calm Air and First Air have ATR's on their expensive flights in Manitoba and the NWTs.
51 viscount724 : There are currently 14 ATR-42s registered in Canada. It's also consistent with Porter's business model in offering a more spacious and compfortable p
52 flyboyseven : On those short stage lenths does a B1900 even pressurize? I know, having flown several times YVR-YBL-YQQ-YVR that both the Central Mountain Air B1900
53 CRJ 900 : These aircraft are replacing older CRJs and seeing as how the CRJ does NOT fly into YTZ, I don't think we'll see them there.... not in the initial bat
54 whiteguy : But those aren't the only routes that the CMA 1900's fly. They fly alot of routes for AC and themselves that would require pressurizing.
55 whiteguy : The first one's going were leased and being returned. They originally flew for Midway. 3 or 4 have already been taken out of service.
56 Post contains links and images rikkus67 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Simon Blakesley ...and previously in Canada: View Large View MediumPhoto © Felix SiederView Large View MediumPhoto ©
57 j0rdan : Awesome news! Can't wait to see these flying around! Any predictions on route/base placement? Besides directly replacing the CRJ100/200's, do you thin
58 jetboy319 : Horizon's Q400s actually seat 76 people....a little more cramped than the previous 74 seat configuration and a stark departure from the 70 seat confi
59 DH8PU : I'm not sure that phobia exists here in Canada, there are plenty of communities where even having Dash 8 service is a big deal. Many only have air se
60 Dash8Pilot : Well its very nice to see Jazz a Canadian Company buying Canadian Products. Really wished AC had chosen a Bombardier Aircraft over the Embrarers. Im h
61 vfw614 : SK operated some of their Q400s in a 64 seat layout.
62 whiteguy : Bombardier didn't have anything in the 90 - 100 seat market like the ERJ190 when the order was placed.
63 Post contains links and images KGAIflyer : It's not that you aren't correct. It's that both Seatguru and Horizon Air disagree with you. www.Alaskaair.com/as/www2/company/Fleet/Fleet.asp
64 jetboy319 : Ahh, I see the error on alaskaair.com. Interestingly, even though it says 74, if you do the math by looking at the actual seating chart for the Q400,
65 asqx : Count the seats on the seatmap at Alaskaair.com and you will find there are 76 seats. The same is true if you go to make a reservation on a Q400 flig
66 rikkus67 : Not as much phobia here in Canada, simply due to the smaller populations and smaller airports that typically don't justify jet service. There was nev
67 KGAIflyer : No . . . I'm not going to count the seats on the chart to verify that Horizon Air is mistaken about their own planes on their own web site. I'll just
68 YTZ : I am glad that Bombardier is getting some business. And it's especially great for Toronto where the Q is built. But I am still surprised that Jazz cho
69 CRJ 900 : There was some talk a few months back as part of the seamless branding at AC, Jazz aircraft would all be painted in the green/blue (whatever that col
70 whiteguy : AC has their own lounges in YUL & YOW.
71 A346Dude : Yes but I think the point he is making is only high fare passengers/elites etc. can use those lounges, whereas Porter's lounges are open to all their
72 CRJ 900 : Just to clarify something for all interested. Jazz has already started retiring CRJs and not the ones you expect. Some CRJ200s have been removed from
73 9252fly : Leases on the CRJ100s are likely cheaper even though the CRJ200 is newer and a better performer. It's just a business decision.
74 CRJ 900 : Actually as I understand it, when AC got the 100s, they signed some ridiculous lease that if we try and get rid of those aircraft, it'll cost an arm a
75 Tangowhisky : What's going to happen when there will be all those planes buzzing around. Won't the special interest groups and bone head politicians want to clamp
76 DC10sRule : Porter is operating approx 120 flights per day at CYTZ. Apparently, there are 92 more slots coming available in the next year (based on noise exposur
77 Tangowhisky : Thanks Dc10sRule. That means there will be a plane taking off or landing every 5 to 10 minutes. Even more during peak hours. It will be very interesti
78 planemaker : The reason why they still have the 100s is because all but 5 of the 100s are owned by Jazz. Does Porter fly any special approach & departure prof
79 Post contains links ChallengerDan : From JAZZ AIR LP financial report: 14. FLEET As at December 31, 2009, Jazz’s operating fleet was made up of 134 operating aircraft, of which 70 wer
80 YTZ : YTZ has approaches that are designed to mitigate noise impact on the surrounding community. And the residents on the Island will call into complain i
81 YTZ : Can anybody comment on the luggage capacity issue I raised earlier? Do other Q400 operators have a problem with luggage capacity. Are they able to car
82 Post contains images kgaiflyer : I knew there was a photo of this out there somewhere. But I keep forgetting they fly dba "Air Alliance" rather than Air Georgian.
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