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User currently offlineUS AIRWAYS From United States of America, joined May 1999, 432 posts, RR: 4
Posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1079 times:

Hello
Do you think that American will ever fly there 777 to Honolulu from SFO by next summer instead of the DC-10? I'm planning a trip and am using American to fly from SFO to HNL.

Jonathan
Philadelphia, PA


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User currently offlineN777UA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 827 times:

Go for United...at least you will have a chance at the Boeing 747, the mother of all planes!

User currently offlinePurdue Cadet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 811 times:

Probably not - American has announced that they will be replacing DC-10s with 757s and 767 that are being downgraded to two-class. As for taking to United, getting to fly the 747 is not the best reason I can think of for doing so. Been there, done that (UA 744 HNL-SFO), and it was the most uncomfortable four hours of my life.

User currently offlineDFW-JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 801 times:

AA is still showing DC-10s on all Hawaii flights from DFW,ORD,SFO and 1 from LAX, as far as July, 2000 in Sabre....But that can change, will wait and see what they decide to use in the future, dont think its going to be a 777, I think were leaning towards the 767-300 in a 2 class layout. Also looking at maybe 757s to some of the other Hawaiian Islands from diffrent west coast cities.

User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 783 times:

American's 777's are really heavy (by design for long range flights) thus are probably not going to be implemented on such a "short" flight. A possible future addition to the American fleet which if added has been discussed on the Hawaii routes is the 757-300.

User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 779 times:

American's 777's are really heavy (by design for long range flights) thus are probably not going to be implemented on such a "short" flight. A possible future addition to the American fleet which if added has been discussed on the Hawaii routes is the 757-300.

User currently offlineDeltaShuttle From United States of America, joined May 1999, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 788 times:

This topic has also been raised with regard to United Airlines. I think people here said that United was replacing DC-10's with 767-300's, so my guess is American will probably do the same thing. How are United and American's situations different regarding putting 777's on Hawaii routes?

User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 787 times:

United has a lower gross weight 777 fleet (they have higher gross weight 777's also) which could be ideal for the Hawaii run.

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (15 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 784 times:

But UA will use their "Flagship" aircraft (the 777) to replace the other planes (mainly 767-300) on their international routes, freeing up 767-300's to convert to 2-class for HNL runs.

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3875 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (15 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 763 times:
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I think you are right. If American was planning on flying 777's to Hawaii, they would have ordered 777-200 NON-IGW like United has. If the whole 777 fleet will consist of 200-IGW that means that they plan to operate them on very long flights exclusively. The only exception is the daily roundtrip Dallas-Chicago, but that is just to reposition the aircraft at either Dallas or Chicago for flights to Japan and Europe. No I don't think that American is going to fly 777's to Hawaii, they have never talked about doing it. They will probalby replace the DC-10 with the 767-300ER. By the end of this year, American will have in its fleet 49 ETOPS rated 767-300ER's so I wouldn't be surprised to see them on more overwater flights. The DC-10 at American will soon be history.

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (15 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 752 times:

I believe that 747-400 is the "Flagship" of the United fleet.


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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (15 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 733 times:

Not any more.

The 777 is UA's pride and joy...it's [quite literally] their baby. One other reason it's the new flagship is because it is the most technologically advanced airliner in the skies.

FLY777UAL


User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (15 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 727 times:

Not to change the subject, but I remember when the pride of Eastern was the L1011 and they said that was the most technologically advanced aircraft in the sky......oh the good ol' days.

User currently offlineUnited946 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 729 times:

I have to take issue with your statement. The 777 is, without a doubt, our flagship. It's the most advanced, farthest flying airliner in the world. Sure, the 747 has the unmistakeable silhouette, but passengers prefer the 777 3 to 1.
'Nuff said.

United946


User currently offlineDC-10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 716 times:

god the thought of a 757 to Hawaii! I see that flight leave all the time from LAX
I'd much rather do the 767 or the DC-10, UA's 10s are still great inside and out. As for 777 service to Hawaii...I believe UA uses them from Chicago to Hawaii


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 696 times:

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User currently offlineN777UA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 695 times:

UA ORD-HNL is a DC10-30...I've flown it many times.

User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 694 times:

Im sure that they will eventually, maybe along with an MD-11 flight...

User currently offlineJim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 688 times:

FYI, one of the first routes planned for Delta's 764 is LAX-HNL. It will be replacing the L-1011s.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 682 times:

Where is the 3-1 info come from? Also what series 747? Also numbers and surveys can be construed to suite your own purposes.


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User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1182 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 680 times:
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Statistically it is inevitable that we will have a fatal problem with an ETOPS in the next couple years. There will then be a massive move on the part of pax demand to multi-engine 744's and A340's while the governments and the politicians rethink Etops regs particularly if it is an election year. It's all psychological! American and UA will find themselves with a large 777 fleet suitable for LAX-JFK and that's all! Nothing wrong with the Big Twins, except for the psychological impact.

Northwest 744's and Air Canada A340's will then rule! and Northwest will just refurbish its DC10-30's and 40's once again!




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User currently offlineDGS From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 680 times:

Whats wrong with a 757 to Hawaii..Its a shorter flt LAX-HNL than BOS-HNL and most carriers fly that with a 757 and people see ok with it...

User currently offlinePurdue Cadet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 679 times:

Who flies BOS-HNL in a 757???

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