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MKE Wants To Be Chicago's Third Airport  
User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 542 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10018 times:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...2010-02-11-airmilwaukee11_CV_N.htm

Good article, I think!

Jason in MKE

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User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5008 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9998 times:

Not much new info for those of us here who've been following the MKE saga these past few years.

And the old Midwest targeted Northern Illinois passengers since the mid to late 80's and was promoting MKE as Chicago's 3rd airport even then.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9943 times:

The problem for MKE is that ORD is so far north within the Chicagoland area that the area for which ORD usage would be easier extends well into Lake County, or perhaps even into southern Wisconsin. Add to that the ease of connections, and I don't see this working out well for MKE.

The right place for an additional strong airport, considering the location of MDW, would be somewhere out by Joliet.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9888 times:
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Quoting N328KF (Reply 2):
The problem for MKE is that ORD is so far north within the Chicagoland area that

Bring in High Speed Rail Service - 45mins trip from Union Station to MKE with 2 or 3 stops in the northern burbs,, and voila! Airport #3



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9875 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 3):
Bring in High Speed Rail Service - 45mins trip from Union Station to MKE with 2 or 3 stops in the northern burbs,, and voila! Airport #3

Service from Union Station would not help the case for MKE for 2/3rds to 3/4th of the people living here, as they would have to make it downtown. The distance for those people then becomes the transit time to get downtown, then to MKE, and then they would have to go through airline security. They might as well just go to ORD and then go through security.

Also, if the proposed HSR line (which would be centered around Chicago) exists, why take the HSR to MKE when they could just take the HSR to their destination? MKE, even if it did successfully become an ORD/MDW reliever, would not get the international flights that ORD has. That leaves short- and medium-haul, but the advantage is negligible for those, IMHO.

This is a really rotten idea.



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User currently offlineMKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9870 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 3):
Bring in High Speed Rail Service - 45mins trip from Union Station to MKE with 2 or 3 stops in the northern burbs,, and voila! Airport #3

Bingo! Forget the high speed rail between MKE and MSN for now. Fix what we have between MKE and Chi-Town first.


User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9812 times:
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Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
Service from Union Station would not help the case for MKE for 2/3rds to 3/4th of the people living here, as they would have to make it downtown.

I meant Union Station in Downtown Chicago  

Imagine HRS right under MKE with service directly into Downtown Chicago.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
This is a really rotten idea.

geez, thanks...

[Edited 2010-02-11 07:06:34]


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9757 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 6):
I meant Union Station in Downtown Chicago

Yes, I know what you meant. I'm still saying that if you have HSR at all, then MKE as a reliever is pointless.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
This is a really rotten idea.
Quoting mt99 (Reply 6):
geez, thanks...

Here, I was referring to using MKE as a reliever. It is pointless.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9727 times:
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Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
MKE as a reliever is pointless.
Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):

Here, I was referring to using MKE as a reliever. It is pointless.

Because of this:?

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
That leaves short- and medium-haul, but the advantage is negligible for those, IMHO.

Build it - and they will come my friend.. such a link could alter the market dynamics.

Building a HSR link between Chicago and Milwaukee (as cities) is not to bad of an idea anyways. If you buy that concept, then adding a station at MKE is not that much of an additional cost.



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User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2856 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9723 times:

MKE already is Chicago's third airport. I grew up in Lake Forest, IL (about 30 miles north of the city, on the northern fringe of the wealthy North Shore area) and use MKE exclusively when I go back there. Why?

1) Fares to/from MKE are always cheaper than those to/from ORD or MDW. I have always paid about $90 (each way) when flying [nonstop] between LAX and MKE, such that a round-trip fare with taxes and fees costs around $200. Since round-trip flights into ORD on AA or UA usually cost well over $300, I use the money I save flying into MKE to upgrade to Signature Seats on YX or to First Class on FL. Once you take UA/AA checked bag fees and snack charges into account, I end up paying just about the same for first class into MKE as I would when flying coach into ORD!

2) For many of us in Chicago's far northern suburbs, MKE is much easier to get to than MDW, and even ORD. MKE is conveniently located south of Milwaukee right off of I-94. Although MKE is twice as far from Lake Forest as ORD is, it can actually be faster to reach MKE (high speed drive through rural areas) than ORD (congested roadways through densely populated suburbs) during rush hour. My parents actually find it less stressful to drive up to MKE than down to ORD!

3) The MKE airport experience can't be beat. I have never encountered check-in or security lines at MKE, and the main terminal area boasts respectable shops such as Brook's Brothers, decent restaurants, and even a cool aviation museum! While the gate areas in Concourses D and E are a little run-down these days, Concourse C (where Air Tran operates) is far nicer than anything at ORD, and has a nice little bar beyond security to pass the time if flights are delayed.

Of course, MKE works so well for me because I can easily get rides to and from the airport AND can choose from three daily nonstop flights to/from LAX. If I was coming from someplace like PDX or SLC, where there are many direct flights into ORD and MDW but none to MKE, MKE would require a connection and be far less attractive. Also, when actually going to the city of Chicago, MDW and ORD are served by the el network and are MUCH closer. So, it all depends on your where you need to go and your transportation options from the airport.



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9708 times:
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Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
Quoting mt99 (Reply 6):
I meant Union Station in Downtown Chicago

Yes, I know what you meant.
Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
Service from Union Station would not help the case for MKE for 2/3rds to 3/4th of the people living here, as they would have to make it downtown.

So when you say "here" you meant Chicagoland not Milwaukee.. Got it.

Who's is your market? the family trying to get to Orlando? or the business traffic that fly for 1 or two days in and out of Chicago.

Its all about positioning..



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9696 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 11):
Who's is your market? the family trying to get to Orlando? or the business traffic that fly for 1 or two days in and out of Chicago.

Yeah. But I know what we really need. We need a small GA airport right downtown, preferably on the waterfront. I guarantee you people would use it!



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9668 times:
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Quoting N328KF (Reply 12):
We need a small GA airport right downtown, preferably on the waterfront. I guarantee you people would use it!

Oh God!.. not this again. How many commercial airlines flew into Meigs?



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6787 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9640 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 9):
MKE already is Chicago's third airport. I grew up in Lake Forest, IL (about 30 miles north of the city, on the northern fringe of the wealthy North Shore area) and use MKE exclusively when I go back there. Why?

Exactly. For everyone on the north side of Chicago, MKE is easier to get to given traffic, even if the distance is negligible.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 9):
While the gate areas in Concourses D and E are a little run-down these days,

Haven't been to D lately, but E is/was being remodeled or spruced up.

From the article:

Quote:
Mention Milwaukee, and many people would think of city icons such as bratwurst, Miller Beer or even Laverne and Shirley.

Sonofabitch. Can we please stop with this crap?

Quote:
AirTran CEO Bob Fornaro says. "Within 60 miles of Milwaukee, there are about 3½ million people. Part of the market certainly extends into northern Chicago. So we think there's a lot of potential from north Chicago."

That's a damn large market draw. Wonder if Fornaro's comment includes MSN in that 60 mile draw.

Quote:
Unlike the northern Illinois residents most Milwaukee airlines seek, Mueller actually lives in The Loop in central Chicago — about 90 miles from Mitchell airport. Still, he says, he prefers Mitchell over O'Hare, saying the ride to Milwaukee on Amtrak's Hiawatha line doesn't take him any longer than Chicago's Blue Line "El" train to O'Hare.

"While Milwaukee is only 70 miles from O'Hare and 90 miles from downtown Chicago, those aren't the important numbers," says Mitchell director Bateman. "For the majority of our customers who live in the high-income, frequent-traveler northern Illinois tier, Milwaukee is only a 45- to 50-minute drive on the interstate — the same amount of time it takes them to drive to O'Hare."

Two very valid and hard-hitting excerpts. However, I think MKE will only be a relief valve, as it's been for some time. The AirTran and WN buildup will siphon more budget conscious flyers perhaps, but ORD is still where it's at in terms of total destinations and choice.

At least this is a valid discussion to inject reality into the 'builld a new' 3'rd Chicago airport debate.


User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5008 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9633 times:

Quoting mt99 (Reply 13):


Oh God!.. not this again. How many commercial airlines flew into Meigs?

Historically? Several....

Air Illinois, Ozark, United Express and others. Which did I forget?



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User currently offlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9598 times:
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Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 15):
Historically? Several....

Air Illinois, Ozark, United Express and others. Which did I forget?

I am not talking about the middle ages here.  

From our beloved site (that google subscripition is paying off, btw)

Who Flies Out Of Meigs? (by 767-332ER Oct 22 2001 in Civil Aviation)

Meigs At Its Peak (by N723GW Jan 18 2006 in Civil Aviation)

I can see a flight or two to Springfield IL.. not seeing to much other than that really. Were are the flight to "real" business destinations? where is the 8AM flight from NY?

[Edited 2010-02-11 08:09:09]


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User currently offlineBoydatageek From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9538 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 4):
Service from Union Station would not help the case for MKE for 2/3rds to 3/4th of the people living here, as they would have to make it downtown. The distance for those people then becomes the transit time to get downtown, then to MKE, and then they would have to go through airline security.

But for 1/4 to 1/3 the population, MKE is a viable alternative. Although the train line helps a lot, I would like to see the Mega-bus stop be moved to the airport from the southside Milwaukee Park and Ride lot. That would often make the cost of commuting to be less than the 'el'

Part of the growth that isn't being discussed is as service is enhanced in MKE, some of the MKE residents that drive to ORD goes down. Many who fly to.from MKE fly into ORD and then drive up, because they can get non-stop flights to/from ORD or are combining a CHicago/Milwukee Business Trip. This is especially true for international visitors.

I would love to see a MKE/London and MKE/Frankfurt flight!


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9512 times:

I think this is all about common sense. MKE is an easy airport to get in and out of. As more and more flights to different locations are added at competitive prices Northern Illinois residents will take advantage if it is cheaper and easier than O'hare. Many already do. If they are not non-stop, cheaper or more convienant they won't.

I have several business associates that will avoid O'hare like the plague if they can get a non-stop from MKE. they live in Lake Forrest, Glencoe and Waukegan.


User currently offlineBoydatageek From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9490 times:

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 18):
I have several business associates that will avoid O'hare like the plague

Bad weather and ATC holds make ORD and ORDeal to steal from a Mitchell Airport Ad campaign of a few years ago.


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9432 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 9):
3) The MKE airport experience can't be beat. I have never encountered check-in or security lines at MKE, and the main terminal area boasts respectable shops such as Brook's Brothers, decent restaurants, and even a cool aviation museum! While the gate areas in Concourses D and E are a little run-down these days, Concourse C (where Air Tran operates) is far nicer than anything at ORD, and has a nice little bar beyond security to pass the time if flights are delayed.

I grew up in the north burbs as well (Lincolnwood) but I never used MKE until my wife and I flew out of MKE last November. Our AA/MQ MKE-ORD-SJC ticket was actually cheaper than ORD-SJC - and the ORD-SJC leg was the same flight!  Wow!

Getting to MKE was easy and checking in was a quick process. The airport isn't too big but "big enough".

My only grip was the lack of choices when it came to eating. That being said, if MKE attracts more pax, I'm sure other eateries would open.

All-in-all, I rate MKE an excellent airport and have no problems using it again!



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9430 times:
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I think MKE is also pulling a lot of people in from MSN, too. When comparing ticket prices between the two, MSN-based travelers often find that they stand to save $200-300 for the (minimal) trouble of driving 60-90 minutes over to MKE.


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User currently offlineElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9309 times:

The problem with calling MKE Chciago's 3rd is that it's in the opposite direction from where it needs to be. The metro area is growing south (more specificly, southwest), and has been like that for 15+ years. Why do you think they decided to extend I-355 down to 80? The population in that general area has skyrocketed, while up north it's pretty much filled in as much as it's going to be. An airport in the southland is the best option because it means less people from down here have to hike up to ORD and the population up there can deal with less congestion....gee, where have I heard this before? The site in Peotone may not be the *ideal* location (that would probably be further west, closer to Joliet as mentioned above) but obviously they picked that spot because it has a larger amount of continuous undeveloped land that they could work with easier (and despite beliefs to the contrary, is closer to downtown than a good portion of the north suburbs that might as well keep going to ORD)

MDW would probably not be affected that much since it'd be in the middle and take in the overlap from either side.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9288 times:

Quoting ElBandGeek (Reply 21):
The problem with calling MKE Chciago's 3rd is that it's in the opposite direction from where it needs to be. The metro area is growing south (more specificly, southwest), and has been like that for 15+ years. Why do you think they decided to extend I-355 down to 80?

Exactly right. The areas out past Naperville are growing by leaps and bounds. Oh, and I-355 will get even longer in Phase III, which would extend it to I-65 in Indiana. By the way, this would take it past Peotone.



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User currently offlineElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9246 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
Oh, and I-355 will get even longer in Phase III, which would extend it to I-65 in Indiana. By the way, this would take it past Peotone

I was almost gonna mention that, but decided not to since that portion isn't set in stone yet. It's actually two different projects that have pretty much become one by way of being completely obvious. The proposed Illiana expressway (which has been on the table for a loooong time) would connect 57 to 65 somewhere in south will county to alleviate traffic on 80. Once they did the 355 extension the idea of linking the two from 80 to 57 pretty much came together on it's own since it would create a 2nd bypass around the city and ease up Indiana-Wisconsin traffic on 294.

In any case, it does make it so Peotone is hardly the barren lack of civilization so many people make it out to be. It's not like it would be any further away from the major population centers as DEN is (much closer in fact).

[Edited 2010-02-11 10:35:42]

User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9191 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
The areas out past Naperville are growing by leaps and bounds.

I know.....my own hometown, Yorkville has grown from about 1600 when I was growing up to about 12-15000 today. Almost not recognizable. Maybe a better location for a third airport would be out by Aurora.



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25 Flytravel : Greater Cleveland (Cleveland + Akron/Canton) is larger and lost trans Atlantic service, and Baltimore (BWI) despite having great domestic service, an
26 TVNWZ : Not so fast. Kenosha is now a bedroom community of Chicago. The county has lost over 15,000 jobs in the last decade or so and is bigger because of th
27 Post contains images Crosscheck007 : ...and MSN continues to shrivel into absolute nothingness, and the airport administration is perfectly content with this. Soon enough MSN will be the
28 Post contains images OzarkD9S : How many stops would that Beechcraft make?
29 2H4 : High-speed rail to MKE will be the final nail in the coffin, methinks.
30 N328KF : Or ORD, since it is on the Chicago-Minneapolis corridor.
31 mtaabq : Surfandsnow, I didn't want to quote your entire posting but allow me to say WELL PUT! Once I discovered the pleasure that is MKE I try to fly there a
32 Post contains images MSNfan : With plans for a station at the airport itself... The option to get a non-stop flight on a larger plane for a significantly lower price has a lot of
33 nwaesc : Yep. Lots of revenue leakage to MKE, CHI, and even RFD. There are more ads for the latter in Dane county than MSN itself. Oh, it's not hollow; it's f
34 Post contains images FRAspotter : MKE wants to be Chicago's third airport? I say go for it... (and if Ryanair ever were to start flights to the USA, they could just call MKE "Chicago N
35 2707200X : Though in air distance MKE and Chicago is a short air distance away it is a fairly long drive, Gary, Indiana might be a better alternative as a third
36 Cubsrule : HSR will never be viable for travel to the coasts from Chicago/Milwaukee. It's huge - if they can tap it. Historically, YX has been the only carrier
37 FL787 : How did they tap it? It seems like there was minimal spill to MKE until recently when MKE fares dived.
38 Cubsrule : Mostly product differentiation, I think. As you point out, it wasn't the fares (NW learned that fares don't do it), and they didn't advertise much in
39 Flytravel : AirTran should set up their From/To fields on the website like Southwest does. i.e. rather than just a super long combo box, make it a edit friendly t
40 Post contains images legacytravel : I could see this as a 3 day a week flight but no more than that. It could if and when high speed rail gets set up. You could entice an airline to sta
41 mariner63 : A terminal expansion was being considered. Well at least in their master plan on the website. But adding a parallel runway, that could be an idea. Th
42 surfandsnow : Wrong. Most of the area's wealth and business remains in the Northern suburbs (Lake Forest, Northbrook, Glenview, etc.), Northwestern burbs (such as
43 ckfred : A while back, the Illinois Tollway Authority indicated that it was doubtful that the extension of I-355 from I-80 to I-57 will ever be built. When th
44 Crosscheck007 : LOL. And lets not forget the rows upon rows of empty ticket counters... Cheers, 007
45 Post contains links N328KF : I'm not saying that. I'm talking about HSR within the midwest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:High_Speed_Rail_07-09-2009.JPG What I'm saying is th
46 mogandoCI : can Gary, IN be treated as Chicago's 4th airport then ? or is it that Rockford thingie ?
47 Cubsrule : I'm sorry, I don't understand. Are you arguing that CHI-NYC needs relief less than CHI-MSP does?
48 FWAERJ : Being a former resident of "the region", I have always thought that there is a compelling case for GYY as Chicago's fourth airport for the south subu
49 Post contains images legacytravel : They could always build another bridge. There is one crossing Howell already for 07L/25R. Of course to install another runway you would need to eithe
50 Nitrohelper : I thought that was the plan for that area with the military leaving .
51 Jacobin777 : No one north of say Peterson Ave. or who live in the northwest suburbs of say Wheeling, Palatine, etc. would use GYY. Just too far. as mentioned, MKE
52 mariner63 : I've "heard" that the buildings where the 440th used to be is going to be leased out to certain airlines. Does anyone know when the College ave. tunn
53 yx302 : There is still plans for a parrallel runway. Its somewere in those master plans. The runway would go just south of cessna and the run up building. Col
54 scutfarcus : Indiana should just cough up the money to upgrade GYY and run the South Shore Line right into the terminal. It seems almost guaranteed success as a mi
55 Post contains images legacytravel : It was going to be a maintenance facility for FL. I have not heard anymore about it recently though. You would have at least 10 homes to raze, a few
56 Boydatageek : Hopefully YX/F9 maybe with the actual flights done with Ryan International until F9/YX could get ETOPS aircraft and certifications. (or I wouldn't mi
57 YXwatcherMKE : To answer the above questions, the east/west parallel runway is part of the old 440th rehab. plans. It does include moving Howell Ave. to the west an
58 legacytravel : I do not think we will see this happen with YX/F9 metal ever. Maybe a code share with someone like Ryan but that would be it. I really cannot think o
59 mariner63 : Now that I think about it, does MKE really need a parallel set of runways right now? It seems like when ever there is a south or west wind, they use 2
60 MKE22 : Wild idea, but what about US? I'm sure they are a bit steamed that the DL takeover didn't happen, so they could partner with FL (and or F9/YX) which
61 pilotfox : Even with the increase in traffic over the last few months the airport cannot justify an addition runway. Even if MKE had only one commercial runway i
62 Post contains links YXwatcherMKE : You Wanted to know why MKE needed to have new runway(s) here is your answer on the link below. Basically the intersection of 1L/19R and 7R/25L needs
63 MUWarriors : Instead of a new east-west runway, couldn't they extend and upgrade 1R/19L? I only ask because it wouldn't require as much land acquisition or buildi
64 legacytravel : In my opinion "no way" they have no brand recognition here in MKE. FL would do better getting their own long haul aircraft and flying the route. YX s
65 tvnwz : So, how did that intersection get redone several years ago without an extra runway?
66 pilotfox : The main intersection will be done in the next few years. It basically involves the shuting down of two main runways for several days in a row. The ai
67 mke717spotter : Not to get too off-topic, but I was at MKE today and noticed that they were re-doing the food court. Anyone know when that's supposed to be finished?
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