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CY To Fly LCA-DUB & Other Route Changes  
User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Cyprus Airways have announced that they will be starting flights to Dublin and Kiev within 2010.

They have also announced a number of route changes with the biggest being the increase of the LCA-BEY flights from 7 to 14 weekly.

Other changes also include increase of flights to Moscow, Tel Aviv and Brussels.

The full announcement can be found at http://www.stockwatch.com.cy/nqconte...cfm?a_name=news_view&ann_id=112835


CY@Uk
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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Thread starter):
They have also announced a number of route changes with the biggest being the increase of the LCA-BEY flights from 7 to 14 weekly.

Is this mostly aimed at connecting traffic? With the new LCA terminal, I guess this could be a particularly viable option...?


User currently offlineyegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

A lot of Lebanese spend vacation time in Cyprus...so , some will be transit, but also there's the demand to support it

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Thread starter):
starting flights to Dublin

Its great that CY took the route incentive offered , its been a long time since we had a scheduled carrier linking Ireland-Cyprus.   


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 3):
its been a long time since we had a scheduled carrier linking Ireland-Cyprus.

I'm surprised there isn't one already. Isn't DUB - LCA and PFO well within the range of EI 320s?


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 4):
I'm surprised there isn't one already. Isn't DUB - LCA and PFO well within the range of EI 320s?

Yes dont know why they never started one, since the collapse of Helios there has been an absence of direct scheduled flights. Then Irelands largest Cyprus Tour Operator went bust so it was a dark period other than the odd charter and Summer charters.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 4):
I'm surprised there isn't one already. Isn't DUB - LCA and PFO well within the range of EI 320s

Should there be hope for a codesharing agreement between CY and EI?

It would be perfect for transatlantic connections.



CY@Uk
User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 6):
Should there be hope for a codesharing agreement between CY and EI?

It would be perfect for transatlantic connections.

I take it the CY flight arrives in DUB late morning time?


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 7):
I take it the CY flight arrives in DUB late morning time?

No details have been given out yet, but if this happes I guess there is no hope for connections. Correct?



CY@Uk
User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3776 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 8):
No details have been given out yet, but if this happes I guess there is no hope for connections. Correct

Im not sure but most EI (& DL, CO, AA, US) flights depart DUB not much later than 1300 except the EI departure to JFK around 1700. As I said im not too sure so open to correction on that.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

Is CY increasing its fleet in order to implement these additions?


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2651 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3747 times:
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Ah amazing news!!! I am so happy that something is happening with Cyprus Airways!
They have a few planes sitting on the ground at night, so could the DUB flight be flying late at night?

Could someone tell me how long the flight would be from LCA to DUB?


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 10):
Is CY increasing its fleet in order to implement these additions?

They are in the middle of a fleet renewal program which aims to completely renew the A320 fleet by the end of the year.

At the moment CY have 2 x A330 (LHR, CDG mainly), 3 x A319 and 5 x A320. They have also leased another 3 x A320 from CIT (one of them brand new) 2 of which will arrive in LCA by Monday 15 Feb and the remaining one in May.

They have also singed a MOI with CIT for the lease of another 3 A320s hence they are actively looking for ways to "get rid" of their own 5 A320s which are quite old (remember that CY were amongst the first airliners to order the A320 back in the eighties and amongst others had c/n 35, 37 and 38 in their fleet)

In summary, though no exact information is provided by CY, it is believed that the aim is for the A320 fleet to increase to either 8 or 9 with the A330 and A319 fleets remaining as existing.

[Edited 2010-02-11 12:28:43]


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 11):
Could someone tell me how long the flight would be from LCA to DUB?

4 hours 45mins approx.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3650 times:

Great news' I've had the pleasure of flying CY a few times, a great airline and superb staff. In Larnaca I've met many Irish expats or retired folks, all not poor, so the route should do well.

User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

I can see this route running only twice maybe thrice a week at most! I think it will be a red eye aswell similar to Air Baltics services to DUB, but indeed a very welcome addition to DUB.

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 15):
I can see this route running only twice maybe thrice a week at most! I think it will be a red eye aswell similar to Air Baltics services to DUB, but indeed a very welcome addition to DUB.



As OA260 said, there used to be a Government incentive for the establishment of such route (+ any other routes to Ireland and regional German and Italian Airports) however the bidding period expired last September without any expressions of interest by any airline.

If a deal was made and the incentive is still there for CY, then maybe the flights will be more frequent.



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User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Given the lauch of new routes and increase of frequencies of others, don't you think that part of the A320 fleet could be replaced with A321s?

A future fleet may look like 2xA330s, 3xA319s, 5-6xA320 and 2xA321.

The A321 could be used on routes where high seat numbers are required like ATH, SKG and MAN leaving A320s to do other missions where fewer seats are required.



CY@Uk
User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2651 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
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What about Kiev? Why would they fly that route? There is Aerosvit that flies it a few times a week and they codeshare on it... so what is their interest there?

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 18):
What about Kiev? Why would they fly that route? There is Aerosvit that flies it a few times a week and they codeshare on it... so what is their interest there?

No idea, but it may be related to the Tourism Organisation efforts to bring more tourists from ex-Soviet countries given that a slow recovery is predicted for the UK market (mainly due to the GBP-EUR exchange rate).



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User currently offlineCarmelo From Hungary, joined Sep 2005, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Thread starter):
LCA-BEY flights from 7 to 14 weekly

They've been operating this frequence already in the past (summer), so nothing new.



Carmelo
User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2651 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3244 times:
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@Carmelo
yes but its a change compared to the winter season, and plus how could we know if it was going to come back this summer again.
With these new planes maybe the Beirut flights do not need to go back to 7 in winter, but lets say 10?

Has Cyprus Airways improved their in-flight catering lately? A friend of mine just flew from MXP on them and he was really impressed!


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3075 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 21):
With these new planes

A320 5B-DCH (c/n359) arrives at LCA today (13 Feb 10) while the brand new A320 5B-DCG arrives on Tuesday 16/02/10.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3070 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 22):
A320 5B-DCH (c/n359) arrives at LCA today (13 Feb 10) while the brand new A320 5B-DCG arrives on Tuesday 16/02/10.

Will they have any IFE? Drop downs/PTV's? It would be a good opportunity to raise the bar especially on the longer routes.


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2651 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3028 times:
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Oh I hope that they will have PTV's as they have some rather long flights on their 320's... They deploy them to places like Manchester, Birmingham and soon Dublin.
So when these two new planes arrive today and tomorrow, what is going to happen, are they going to be used on some other routes or are they replacing some older models?


25 spetouss : A320 5B-DCH (c/n359) arrives at LCA today (13 Feb 10) while the brand new A320 5B-DCG arrives on Tuesday 16/02/10. cn 359 is with GE engines ! It is
26 OA260 : Were there any A/C named Lefkosia and Aphrodite before these two?
27 JU068 : Ah now that OA260 has mentioned it, do we know their names? And do we know where these planes flew before?
28 CYatUK : Sorry, meant to write c/n2359, an ex US Airways (America West) aircraft. As OA260 said, their names will be "Leukosia" and "Aphrodite". A third one a
29 Post contains images BA : Good to hear. And yes, I know it's being named after the ancient Cypriot city and not the resort. [Edited 2010-02-13 15:16:41]
30 Post contains images OA260 : LOL... CY are naming it after one of the Ancient Cities of Cyprus as apposed to the Amathus Beach hotel
31 Post contains images BA : I know, but I felt like plugging in the hotel.
32 Post contains links and images OA260 : Nice hotel but I prefer Columbia Beach resort or Intercontinental outside Paphos . http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/interco...gb/locations/cyprus-aphrodi
33 BA : Looks nice. I haven't been to Cyprus since the mid-90's. I'll have to visit again soon. If only fares from BEY weren't so high, it could be an easy s
34 Carmelo : Looks like that they'll have a third competitor on that CY-LB route. Armavia will fly Yerevan-Larnaca-Beirut-Yerevan. As far as I know is Bulgaria Air
35 OA260 : Didnt know the fares were so high for such a short hop. Nice route. I saw a nice pic of a CRJ at ATH . What A/C will they use on that route?
36 AmricanShamrok : Correct. In the summer: AA93 to ORD departs at 10:35 (daily) AC895 to YYZ departs at 09:50 (daily) CO23 to EWR departs at 09:00 (daily) CO127 to EWR
37 BA : It's actually a triangle route, EVN-BEY-LCA-EVN and they don't have traffic rights on the BEY-LCA segment, so they can't sell it. Besides being a tri
38 JU068 : Do we know the Armavia schedule? I was wondering why no one has done that route, there are a lot of armenians, and from the ones I know most of them u
39 Cyba : The BEY schedules are out. LCA-BEY 05:55 - 06:40 BEY-LCA 07:30 - 08:15 LCA-BEY 21:30-22:15 BEY-LCA 23:05-23:50 Basically instead of over-nighting in B
40 Carmelo : A319, replacing the CRJ 200 that is currently used on the BEY-Flights. It think eventhough they are expensive, lebanese trust in their home airline a
41 CYatUK : I understand that TLV will be going 9 weekly for the coming Summer 2010 season so it appears that not all schedules are loaded on the systems yet.
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