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JFK T3 To Be Demolished  
User currently offlinexzavierrsa From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 31 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 22372 times:

As per a senior VP in a meeting today Delta's terminal 3 at jfk will be demolished and a brand new terminal will be rebuilt. A target day has not been set but, should be set for late summer 2010. Not much has been said about the details of a T4 move or T6.

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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 951 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22288 times:

The iconic (yet inefficient) WorldPort gone? That'll be hard to see.


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22290 times:

Great news - Terminal 3 is an absolute dump. Glad to see a new modern facility will be taking the place over one of the worst current terminals in America.

User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11711 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22273 times:

Great news for Delta - can't wait to see details!  

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22253 times:

Quoting xzavierrsa (Thread starter):
As per a senior VP in a meeting today Delta's terminal 3 at jfk will be demolished and a brand new terminal will be rebuilt. A target day has not been set but, should be set for late summer 2010. Not much has been said about the details of a T4 move or T6.

Key words there.

This isn't news either.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2415 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22160 times:

I look forward to seeing some renderings. Definitely a step forward for DL at JFK, and sorely needed. Good to hear.

User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22088 times:

  Another piece of Pan Am history gone. I hope they at least incorporate the rotunda into the new terminal. Is the current T3 really that bad? I'm surprised DL has money to spend given how much they've lost recently...


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User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22050 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 4):
Key words there.

This isn't news either.

Yeah, this isn't really news.

I used to feel strongly that the rotunda should be preserved, but I've changed my mind. If DL wants to work it into a new design, so be it. If not, so be it. We'll still have pictures, videos and memories.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22012 times:

Quoting xzavierrsa (Thread starter):
move or T6.

Last time I heard, B6 decided not to "opt out" on T6 and I think rent is still being paid on it while plans get put on the drawing board. Don't know if DL is going to be able to move over there...plus that is not much of a step up from T3 and doesn't have customs in it.



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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5295 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22012 times:

Excellent news. DL's ops at JFK will be a bit of a mess (now there's an understatement) for a while, but I'm sure the end result will be worth it. I can't wait to see the plans for the new complex.

Quoting TymnBalewne (Reply 1):
The iconic (yet inefficient) WorldPort gone? That'll be hard to see.

Yeah it's definitely unfortunate, but by the same token, the WorldPort has definitely outlived its usefulness at this point.



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User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21899 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 8):
Last time I heard, B6 decided not to "opt out" on T6 and I think rent is still being paid on it while plans get put on the drawing board. Don't know if DL is going to be able to move over there...plus that is not much of a step up from T3 and doesn't have customs in it.

Just me, but I think T6's condition is worse than T3. T3 is a bit of a mess, but a trip on B6 through the sundrome really felt like a step back to 35 years ago, and not in a good way (except for the food court)


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5295 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21848 times:

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 6):
Another piece of Pan Am history gone. I hope they at least incorporate the rotunda into the new terminal. Is the current T3 really that bad? I'm surprised DL has money to spend given how much they've lost recently...

It's older and was not designed for the amount of traffic it currently receives. However, the terminal itself is not as bad as people on here make it out to be. That it needs replacing is obvious, but having passed through T3, I can say that a lot of the comments I read about appear to be outright exaggerations.

With regards to the rotunda, some renderings of a possible future terminal were posted on here a while back and they showed the rotunda incorporated into the new terminal. However, I have no idea if these plans are still in place. Due to PAs decision to expand the terminal in the 70's, it lost any chance it had of being listed as a historic landmark, thus DL is under no obligation to incorporate the rotunda in any new terminal they choose to build in T3s place.



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User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21796 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 11):
With regards to the rotunda, some renderings of a possible future terminal were posted on here a while back and they showed the rotunda incorporated into the new terminal. However, I have no idea if these plans are still in place. Due to PAs decision to expand the terminal in the 70's, it lost any chance it had of being listed as a historic landmark, thus DL is under no obligation to incorporate the rotunda in any new terminal they choose to build in T3s place.

Yeah I saw those plans too. I think that was back in 2003 or 2004. Besides the unique "flying saucer" roof of the rotunda, is T3 at all architecturally significant like the TWA Flight Center (old T5) is? Or is it just a worn out dilapidated terminal that just happened to be owned and designed by Pan AM?



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21800 times:

Quoting OA412 (Reply 11):

It's older and was not designed for the amount of traffic it currently receives

That's my biggest problem with T3 - it was built for the days of 707s - not 767s. It's in bad shape - but the biggest strike against it is that fact that it's operating well over-capacity - which likely ages it a bit faster and has it deteriorating at a faster clip.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8387 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21519 times:
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Well finally it only took them an extra 10 years. The Pan AM world port is a historic building but JFK needs the best terminal facilities it can get and finance. Pan AM is gone, sadly, and DL needs a terminal for 2020 not 1970. I hope it looks like terminals 1 or 4.

User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5529 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21443 times:

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 6):
Is the current T3 really that bad?

Yes. It never worked well from the start, and now it's a dump which would be very expensive to renovate.

This can't come soon enough.


User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21396 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 14):
Well finally it only took them an extra 10 years. The Pan AM world port is a historic building but JFK needs the best terminal facilities it can get and finance. Pan AM is gone, sadly, and DL needs a terminal for 2020 not 1970. I hope it looks like terminals 1 or 4.

Or T8. T8 is beautiful!



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User currently offlineEWRkid1990 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21396 times:

Where will DL go while T3 is being demolished/rebuilt? T2 certainly can't handle ALL of DL's flights...and it doesn't have customs...

User currently offlineBlueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21323 times:

cant wait i have to get a video if this is true of them demolishing T3 at JFK cant wait jumping with enjyment get the champangne


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21185 times:

Quoting EWRkid1990 (Reply 17):
Where will DL go while T3 is being demolished/rebuilt? T2 certainly can't handle ALL of DL's flights...and it doesn't have customs...

Most likely a lot of T4-West (where DL already has some operations) will see the international arrivals since T2 does not have a FIS. There'd likely be a lot of bussing to planes as well.


User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 21089 times:

I think the original post needs a little more clarity. The plan is NOT to build a brand new facility.

The plan is to expand T4 where the B30 and B31 gates are to provide something like 6-10 more gates. When that is complete...which should be in late 2012 or early 2013, Delta will move into basically that entire wing of T4. In conjunction with that, they will connect their gates in T4 to T2 via a rail-type mechanism. When they get into T4, they will demolish T3. They will use the T3 space in an interim for parking and other uses. Then they will build out the other wing of T4. Eventually they will kick everyone out of T4 and the whole thing will be theirs. Then I think there is talk that a new, smaller facility could be built where T3 currently is to support more flying and connect that to T4 and abandon T2. They do not really want the T2 and T3 space because there is only 1 taxiway there that is a perpetual drain on the operation and taxi times. Simply building a nicer facility there does not address the taxiway/congestion issue.


User currently offlinem11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20976 times:

Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 20):
The plan is to expand T4 where the B30 and B31 gates are to provide something like 6-10 more gates. When that is complete...which should be in late 2012 or early 2013, Delta will move into basically that entire wing of T4. In conjunction with that, they will connect their gates in T4 to T2 via a rail-type mechanism. When they get into T4, they will demolish T3. They will use the T3 space in an interim for parking and other uses. Then they will build out the other wing of T4. Eventually they will kick everyone out of T4 and the whole thing will be theirs. Then I think there is talk that a new, smaller facility could be built where T3 currently is to support more flying and connect that to T4 and abandon T2. They do not really want the T2 and T3 space because there is only 1 taxiway there that is a perpetual drain on the operation and taxi times. Simply building a nicer facility there does not address the taxiway/congestion issue.

The current T3 has 16 gates. DL needs to build at least 16 more onto T4 if they're going to demolish T3. Also, where are the 30 or so airlines going to go once DL "kicks" them out of T4? I don't doubt that DL is building/expanding at JFK I just doubt that its happening the way you describe it.



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User currently offlineexFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20885 times:

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 6):
Is the current T3 really that bad?

Yes. Really, it is. T2 is a dump too.

Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 20):
They will use the T3 space in an interim for parking and other uses. Then they will build out the other wing of T4. Eventually they will kick everyone out of T4 and the whole thing will be theirs.

If T3 isn't rebuilt, where will the other occupants of T4 go? There is no other empty terminal space at JFK other than T6, which is (a) also very dilapidated, (b) not big enough, and (c) doesn't have Immigration/Customs, nor anywhere to put it.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 8):
Last time I heard, B6 decided not to "opt out" on T6 and I think rent is still being paid on it while plans get put on the drawing board.

I believe JetBlue has given up any claims on T6 - if they still controlled it, I doubt Southwest would have been able to use it to film a commercial.

My guess would be that DL will have to use some combination of T4 (including some additional build-out) and T6 while a new T3 is being built, with a whole lot of busing going on. Whether that new T3 becomes DL's JFK home or a new international terminal to let everyone else move out of T4 and make it DL's remains to be seen.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11711 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20867 times:

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 21):
Also, where are the 30 or so airlines going to go once DL "kicks" them out of T4?

Yeah - that's still the question I have. We've been hearing different variations on much the same theme for months - that Delta will probably end up taking over much if not all of T4, link it somehow to T2 and some form of possible replacement for T3. The question is: where are all the airlines in T4 going to go? Is T6 big enough to hear them? Will the PA build out the rest of T8 and move airlines there?


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 20799 times:

Sad to see this beautiful landmark go.


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25 Globalflyer : It is quite the same as when I flew PA out of JFK in the early 80s. I do hope that they will keep the Worldport circular front in some way like they k
26 PHXtoDCAtoMSP : There are currently 11 gates on the wing where they will initially buildout T4. Add 6-10 more gates and DL controlling that whole wing and there is y
27 Incitatus : About three years ago there was someone in a.net boasting about how DL was going to have a flat business class product in all longhaul aircraft. Stil
28 OA412 : I don't pretend to have inside knowledge on the plans for DLs new JFK facilities, but the best solution in my opinion is to do something along the li
29 commavia : That seems perfectly feasible to me. SkyTeam could have one humongous complex stretching from T2 to T4-B, and then they could just stretch T4-A for t
30 nyc2theworld : If DL is going to take over all of T4...how do they plan on managing connections between the two concourses? Right now they are not connected behind s
31 commavia : I'm sure a sterile connection would be a requisite of any Delta plan.
32 SXDFC : Does anyone have any pictures of what the inside of T3 looks like today, and when PA used it? It would be rather cool to see some pictures from "back
33 Post contains links OA412 : This website has a lot of cool historic pictures of JFK including some of the worldport as it originally appeared: http://psa188.tripod.com/ If you g
34 m11stephen : The interior really doesn't look that bad. In fact none of the pics I've seen of T3 look bad. Is DL just anxious to spend money it doesn't have or wh
35 CODC10 : Although I really have no idea about the logistics, the thought of DL having T4 for their exclusive use is really exciting. Terminal 4 is a fantastic
36 apodino : I used terminal 3 on a recent NRT-JFK flight and its a total dump, and has to go, especially the FIS facility. The one question I would have is can Te
37 Post contains images DLPhoenix : The space enclosed between the inner road, taxiway "A" Terminal 1 and Terminal 4 is is not large enough to fit all the gates that Delta needs even if
38 beeweel15 : They need to demolish T2 and T3 and expand T1 east. Leave T4 independant.
39 panamair : No, plan is for DL to take over Pier B initially. B is the longer one today, with 11-12 gates already: B20 (A and B) - this is a dual jetway gate but
40 david21487 : Well as someone who experiences it daily, I've seen mice, pigeons, pigeon droppings, TSA bins and trashcans catching dripping water from the leaky ci
41 jfk777 : Terminal 4 seems to be the solution to DL's terminal problems. I would love to see a combined terminals 1-4. JFK must also address what terminal 6's
42 JFKLGANYC : "Just me, but I think T6's condition is worse than T3. T3 is a bit of a mess, but a trip on B6 through the sundrome really felt like a step back to 35
43 mogandoCI : agreed......T4's arrivals are really sporadic due to timings of international flights, primarily transatlantic, so Delta can utilize a lot of idle cap
44 CokePopper : I am surprised that some on here haven't chimed in saying that "it can't be so, because they haven't seen it in the PANYNJ plans". As far as what is b
45 Post contains images panamair : Don't worry...we're still early in this thread...it's coming...
46 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Just curious, why did the PANYNJ not plan way ahead and trash the entire layout of JFK's terminals and replace it with one competent, efficient layout
47 jfk787nyc : Is it possible for Delta and the Port Authority to sit down with Star Alliance and Skyteam members and discuss the possibility of moving the Star All
48 beeweel15 : They did have such a plan. In the early 80's there was a plan to build a mega terminal in the middle of all the terminals with links to each terminal
49 panamair : CO doesn't even serve JFK....why would they object? OS only has one flight to/from JFK - so only one gate for a short period LH has 3 flights in the
50 FlyDreamliner : T2, if appropriately renovated, could be fine. It could be a sort of RJ terminal for them (it kind of is now) serving feeder flights to the JFK hub. E
51 commavia : My plan - though it would never happen: Get American and the PA to work towards finishing out T8, and move all of the airport's oneworld airlines out
52 beeweel15 : Good. But T2 should be raised for new T3 and T1 expansion and link with T3 Bad. Should be for Star carriers - US , UA , non alligned carriers , Delta
53 OA412 : Because it made too much sense? Seriously though, I've wondered the same thing myself. It seems like this would have been the best solution to JFKs p
54 Post contains images Revelation : I think seeing the old TW terminal sitting uselessly in the middle of some very useful real estate has made a lot of people realize you just have to
55 TWFirst : Where is STT757?? He knows the lowdown on this... and the actual phases/plans for the project. Until he posts, I'll just agree with those above that T
56 OA412 : I don't know for sure, but that's what I've read vis-a-vis the worldport.
57 RJpieces : What a mess Delta's operations will be at JFK for years while this is ongoing. Pathetic compared to Continental at EWR or even American at JFK....
58 STT757 : I wanted to withhold comment until something is actually proposed to the Port Authority board for consideration, they just held their monthly meeting
59 Blueman87 : is there an article to confirm all this just wondering???
60 panamair : Weren't you the one b!tching in the other AA at LGA thread that DL should finally get off their a$$ and do something about JFK? Well, now that Delta
61 Jetlanta : In fairness, I'm not sure who said that three years ago. It wasn't anyone who knew anything. Also in fairness, DL has announced exactly that and is m
62 JSquared : After looking at aerial photos of JFK, DL certainly has its work cut out for it if it wants to be competitive (from a terminal standpoint) with AA and
63 Jetlanta : Imagine T-4 with concourse that stretch to the taxiways and add on a renovated T-2 connected by people mover.
64 ontime : I think the PANYNJ is missing an opportunity to add another JFK runway just to the north of 31L/13R in conjunction with the demolition of T2 and T3. D
65 STT757 : The Port Authority did have a plan called JFK 2000 (or something like that), basically it would have looked a lot like MCO or TPA on steroids. A main
66 Jetlanta : And, importantly, Delta won't be willing to pay for a mega-expensive building.
67 LDVAviation : Floating or horizontal concourses are always a more elegant solution. Otherwise, you end up with too much frontage and the inefficiencies that result
68 MPDPilot : JFK has always been an interesting airport when it comes to planning. It is one of the only airports in the US save LAX with so many individial termin
69 LXA340 : DOn't know how that whole idea with T4 will work if they will not increase the amont of custums counters etc...as the terminal is already now over cro
70 OA412 : True, but then that could only happen if they completely demolish the T4 piers and start all over again. Add in the fact that taxiway positions place
71 csavel : Not really *that* bad - I've been in much worse. But other airports have gotten much better , and T3 is suffering from neglect, which means leaks, br
72 B6A322 : Just putting in my 2 cents here, But would it be feasible to Move all of Delta's domestic operations to T6 (Say...3 widebody gates on each branch?), a
73 Post contains images deltaL1011man : Wait, it doesn't work this way?
74 Post contains images m11stephen : I'm surprised DL doesn't want an entire new terminal all to itself like AA and B6 did at JFK. In regards to the historical factor of the Worldport, wh
75 DeltAirlines : This makes some semblance of sense, just toned down a little. Phase 1 sounds to be what will need to be done to get this all in motion. Delta would t
76 Post contains links Viscount724 : Photo at top of following page of T3 at the peak of Pan Am's operations in the early 1980s. I count 7 PA 747s, 1 L-1011, 1 DC-10, and 6 727s (one on
77 spacecadet : Kinda puts to rest this notion that T3 was "built for 707's, not 767's", doesn't it? I'd love to see Delta parking seven 747's simultaneously at T3..
78 m11stephen : I'm looking at T3 on Google maps right now and I noticed some taxi's in the center of the terminal. It looks like theres a ramp up onto the roof? Does
79 FlyDreamliner : I did forget that, actually. Was it anywhere in the plans to have any gates available to be convertible to be FIS and can an FIS station be added? Sa
80 Post contains links Aloha717200 : For what its worth, here is a great article with an even more amazing VIDEO: http://www.brandlandusa.com/2008/06/...tas-historic-worldport-terminal-3/
81 OA412 : Pre 9/11, T3s roof served as a parking lot.
82 beeweel15 : Ah those were the days. And one of the best places to go and watch planes.
83 AFGMEL : Good video, but one thing that irked me, where the hell is "London Airport"?
84 RJpieces : Delta's entire mish-mosh JFK strategic plan can fairly be described as "poorly executed" over the years. No, I did not expect instant results, but if
85 WorldTraveler : remember that JFK was devloped over many years with the airlines driving the process.... the DL complex is the last major phase of the rebuild of JFK
86 jfk777 : BA has a very large strategic advantage with its terminal 7, they will never move to the AA terminal. Your assumption of T7 as a Star terminal is mad
87 csavel : This kind of proves my point. The terminal looks maxed out, with no room to grow, and it is not architecturally distinguished. It's time to move ahea
88 Post contains images Revelation : Sure, if you ignore reality. Reality is that everyone involved would have to give their full support and cooperation for that to happen, and that's j
89 TymnBalewne : I'm given to understand that there have already been discussions between BA and AA about BA moving to T8 when the lease on T7 expires in, I think, 20
90 CODC10 : If all this hyperbole were actually true, I think we could at least expect DL to turn a profit, no?
91 LipeGIG : Very good news not only to DL but to NYC and JFK airport. We can see in the future half of the airport in new terminals (T1, T3, T4 and T8). I hope th
92 LDVAviation : It is far more likely that BA will kick out United one day than the Star Alliance as a whole will ever end up in T7. Depending on how these joint ven
93 brilondon : With the demolition, will the stink go away?
94 Revelation : Interesting. I think that business case would have to involve someone giving BA a lot of money for T7 to pay for the T8 expansion and AA giving BA a
95 LDVAviation : If BA did, then one would expect all the rest of the oneworld airlines, especially Iberia to move with them. By my count, the unbult wing at T8 would
96 LDVAviation : As someone mentioned above, I think BA has a lease on the terminal until 2015. What happens after that, I don't know. In another thread on the subjec
97 FWAERJ : One of my longtime friends, a DL pilot, tries not to do JFK trips... he calls DL's JFK base a "nightmare" that "damages the Delta brand". He schedules
98 m11stephen : I look forward to seeing the new JFK renderings. At the current T3, is there more then one departure and arrival point? I was always under the impress
99 exFATboy : But you wouldn't want to try to get to the check-in counters or the baggage claims... The problem is that T5's design doesn't provide for a FIS retro
100 Viscount724 : IB doesn't connect with BA at JFK. What benefits would there be for BA and IB to use the same terminal? That would only make sense if they connected
101 Viscount724 : London Airport was LHR's name until 1966.
102 Post contains images m11stephen : I found a old Pan AM JFK terminal map and at one point in their history they considered T2 a part of the Worldport so even if/when T3 is demolished th
103 BOACCunard : T3 should go ... should have gone at least a decade ago. (And so should T2.) This is not T5: it is of little architectural significance. Would anyone
104 Post contains links DeltaCTO : Here is such a map from 1990: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HWefOh5ZGv...A/17zJIvbw2vc/s1600-h/Pan+Am+4.jpg This map is from http://airlinetimetables.blo
105 Blueman87 : i be glad to see T3 go as long as it really does go and i better one is built thats the issue i hate picking up my parents at delta Terminal
106 PITrules : The current T5 is phase one. Phase 2 is a hockey stick shaped concourse extending westward over the T6 location from T5 with int'l capability. This w
107 Sankaps : Pre-9/11, there were drop-off points along the roadway in the 70's extension portion. In the 1990s and perhaps into the early 2000s, the drop-off are
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