alwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6056 times:
Hi,
just saw a few documentaries recently, and I wondered what happened to the airframes in question.
Were they put back in service?
I know the fate of the Gimi glider and the Air Transat A330 glider, but here is a few other examples:
A300 in Marseille F-GBEC, the infamous Air France hi-jacking.
Saudi Arabian 747, ended up in a ditch nose down at KUL back in 2001.
DHL A300 in Baghdad.
The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.
Less famous, but widely discussed on A.net:
The Lufthansa MD-11F at MEX.
I am sure many of you have more interesting stories about incidents and the fait of the subsequent airframes.
Cheers,
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trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5979 times:
It states that it was written off. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that it was scrapped on site. Nothing could be done short of grafting on an entire new front end.
trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5965 times:
DHL A300 per Wikipedia "In addition to severe wing and undercarriage damage, both jet engines suffered ruinous abuse by ingesting debris. The already aging aircraft has not flown again."
trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5973 times:
alwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5599 times:
That is interesting, there were only "a few" bullet holes in it…………..
Quoting trigged (Reply 1): It states that it was written off. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that it was scrapped on site. Nothing could be done short of grafting on an entire new front end.
So apparently insurance did not deem it worth doing this.
Any more stories perhaps, people?
Are there still some "famous frames" flying around?
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It was ferried unpressurized at low altitude and with the nosegear extended from MEX to VCV for repairs in mid-November. Further discussion in following thread. Lufthansa Cargo MD-11 After MEX Incident Now In VC (by MUCFLYER Nov 17 2009 in Civil Aviation)
That thread includes a link to the photo below of the aircraft departing MEX on the ferry flight. You can see some temporary skin repairs near the nosegear.
alwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5005 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5): It was ferried unpressurized at low altitude and with the nosegear extended from MEX to VCV for repairs in mid-November. Further discussion in following thread.
Lufthansa Cargo MD-11 After MEX Incident Now In VC (by MUCFLYER Nov 17 2009 in Civil Aviation)
That thread includes a link to the photo below of the aircraft departing MEX on the ferry flight. You can see some temporary skin repairs near the nosegear.
Interesting!
I missed that thread.
Good to see it back in the air!
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wexfordflyer From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 550 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4872 times:
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8): After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped
Thanks for that!!
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RE: AF 8969 F-GBEC Question (by Breiz Aug 17 2005 in Civil Aviation)
Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
It is my understanding that the cockpit and the fuselage sustained too many damages from bullets and grenades to be worth repairing to a standard satisfactory to Air France (you can't just put tape on the holes Smile).
The ac was sold to Aviation System Inc in August 95 (8 months after the hijacking) for spares parts. It was broken-up in October 95.
What Is The Current Status Of SV's HZ-AIO? (by Airbus_A340 Sep 25 2002 in Civil Aviation)
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2736 posts, RR: 24
It was a long story until this plane was finally written off... After it had happend they first wanted to repair it then again they wanted to write it off. That went on until 9/11 made them finally decide to write it off and at least get some money from the insurance since the plane would now not be needed anymore since demand fell drastically.
50 Million For HZ-AIO (by Rwy31R Jan 9 2002 in Civil Aviation)
It was rumored that the airline would repair it, but has recently collected 50 million dollars from the insurance provider.
Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter): The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4455 times:
Quoting wexfordflyer (Reply 9): Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8):
After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped
Thanks for that!!
I believe it is still intact and stored at Mojave, or it was a few months ago. Or have you seen something indicating that ti's been scrapped? It's still owned and registered to AC according to the Transport Canada aircraft registry website.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5434 posts, RR: 49 Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4222 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11): Or have you seen something indicating that ti's been scrapped?
Hi,
I thought I had read that the "glider" had been parted out but can no longer find any confirmation of this, added to the fact it is still on the Canadian register I will accede to your local expertise and accept it is still stored.
Regards
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SQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1437 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3887 times:
Any news on LHs "Landshut" D-ABCE which was hijacked 1977?
Youngest pic in the databas is from 2004 when she was flying for TAF Linhas Aereas as PT-MTB!
AMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3741 times:
Quoting SQ325 (Reply 14): Any news on LHs "Landshut" D-ABCE which was hijacked 1977?
Youngest pic in the databas is from 2004 when she was flying for TAF Linhas Aereas as PT-MTB!
chrisjw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter): The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.
N306FE is still flying as others have said. I believe it is supposed to be retired after AF/KLM sells 2 777F's to Fedex, not entirely sure though.
According to some people here on A.Net there are still marks on the overhead panel from the incident.
stratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1614 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
Quoting chrisjw (Reply 16): Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.
N306FE is still flying as others have said. I believe it is supposed to be retired after AF/KLM sells 2 777F's to Fedex, not entirely sure though.
Actually N306FE was a DC-10 not an MD-11 and has since been converted to an MD-10. I don't know the retirement schedule on the MD-10's but 306 just went into C check at BFM so I wouldn't think they would retire it right away.
Anshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 480 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3494 times:
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8): After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped.
It got quite a farewell, in fact. It did a low flypast over the runway at an airport I cannot recall at the moment, with the crew that piloted the plane on board.
chrisjw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3410 times:
Quoting stratosphere (Reply 17): Actually N306FE was a DC-10 not an MD-11 and has since been converted to an MD-10. I don't know the retirement schedule on the MD-10's but 306 just went into C check at BFM so I wouldn't think they would retire it right away.
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3294 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11): I believe it is still intact and stored at Mojave, or it was a few months ago.
I've seen a report from the start of Oct 2009 (so 4 months ago) saying that it was still intact and stored at Mojave (along with at least six other AC 767-200s).
Aeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 371 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3197 times:
Quoting Anshuk (Reply 18): It got quite a farewell, in fact. It did a low flypast over the runway at an airport I cannot recall at the moment, with the crew that piloted the plane on board.
IRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1071 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
How about TACA Flight 110, a 733 that had both engines go out because of water ingestion from a thunderstorm and landed on a grass levee in New Orleans:
The engines were apparently swapped out on site and the aircraft flown off the levee to MSY. According to Wikipedia that particular frame flies for WN now.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2885 times:
Quoting IRelayer (Reply 22): How about TACA Flight 110, a 733 that had both engines go out because of water ingestion from a thunderstorm and landed on a grass levee in New Orleans:
The engines were apparently swapped out on site and the aircraft flown off the levee to MSY. According to Wikipedia that particular frame flies for WN now.
26 fanofjets: From what I read, the damage to the aircraft when she was stormed by the anti-terrorist forces was quite extensive, though I do not have the precise
27 stratosphere: Well it varies..But usually about 6 weeks give or take depending on what they find..
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