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Famous Airframes, What Became Of Them?  
User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7817 times:

Hi,

just saw a few documentaries recently, and I wondered what happened to the airframes in question.
Were they put back in service?
I know the fate of the Gimi glider and the Air Transat A330 glider, but here is a few other examples:

A300 in Marseille F-GBEC, the infamous Air France hi-jacking.

Saudi Arabian 747, ended up in a ditch nose down at KUL back in 2001.

DHL A300 in Baghdad.

The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.

Less famous, but widely discussed on A.net:
The Lufthansa MD-11F at MEX.



I am sure many of you have more interesting stories about incidents and the fait of the subsequent airframes.

Cheers,

## "I am always on the Run"###


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User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7740 times:

For the Saudi a/c, this is what I find: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010823-0

It states that it was written off. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that it was scrapped on site. Nothing could be done short of grafting on an entire new front end.


User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7726 times:

DHL A300 per Wikipedia "In addition to severe wing and undercarriage damage, both jet engines suffered ruinous abuse by ingesting debris. The already aging aircraft has not flown again."


Hijacked MD-11F: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=306FE Still flying.


A300 in Marseille F-GBEC, the infamous Air France hi-jacking. http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a300-104.htm Written off, presumably scrapped.


User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

Lufthansa a/c is apparently going to be repaired. http://avherald.com/h?article=4210beec&opt=0

User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7360 times:

Quoting trigged (Reply 3):
Lufthansa a/c is apparently going to be repaired. http://avherald.com/h?article=4210be...opt=0

They do not seem to be in a great hurry though………….

Quoting trigged (Reply 2):

A300 in Marseille F-GBEC, the infamous Air France hi-jacking. http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a300-104.htm Written off, presumably scrapped.

That is interesting, there were only "a few" bullet holes in it…………..

Quoting trigged (Reply 1):
It states that it was written off. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that it was scrapped on site. Nothing could be done short of grafting on an entire new front end.

So apparently insurance did not deem it worth doing this.

Any more stories perhaps, people?
Are there still some "famous frames" flying around?

### "I am always on the Run"###



"Failure is not an option, it comes standard in any Windows product" - an anonymous MAC owner.
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
The Lufthansa MD-11F at MEX.

It was ferried unpressurized at low altitude and with the nosegear extended from MEX to VCV for repairs in mid-November. Further discussion in following thread.
Lufthansa Cargo MD-11 After MEX Incident Now In VC (by MUCFLYER Nov 17 2009 in Civil Aviation)

That thread includes a link to the photo below of the aircraft departing MEX on the ferry flight. You can see some temporary skin repairs near the nosegear.



User currently offlinealwaysontherun From Netherlands Antilles, joined Jan 2010, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6766 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
It was ferried unpressurized at low altitude and with the nosegear extended from MEX to VCV for repairs in mid-November. Further discussion in following thread.
Lufthansa Cargo MD-11 After MEX Incident Now In VC (by MUCFLYER Nov 17 2009 in Civil Aviation)

That thread includes a link to the photo below of the aircraft departing MEX on the ferry flight. You can see some temporary skin repairs near the nosegear.

Interesting!
I missed that thread.

Good to see it back in the air!

### "I am always on the Run"###



"Failure is not an option, it comes standard in any Windows product" - an anonymous MAC owner.
User currently offlinewexfordflyer From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
I know the fate of the Gimi glider and the Air Transat A330 glider,

Can anyone enlighten me as to the fate of the Gimli Glider??



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5743 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6694 times:
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Quoting wexfordflyer (Reply 7):
Can anyone enlighten me as to the fate of the Gimli Glider??

After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped.

Cheers



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User currently offlinewexfordflyer From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6633 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8):
After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped

Thanks for that!!



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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6486 times:

I did some searching on a.net (great website BTW!)

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
A300 in Marseille F-GBEC, the infamous Air France hi-jacking.
RE: AF 8969 F-GBEC Question (by Breiz Aug 17 2005 in Civil Aviation)
Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
It is my understanding that the cockpit and the fuselage sustained too many damages from bullets and grenades to be worth repairing to a standard satisfactory to Air France (you can't just put tape on the holes Smile).
The ac was sold to Aviation System Inc in August 95 (8 months after the hijacking) for spares parts. It was broken-up in October 95.

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
Saudi Arabian 747, ended up in a ditch nose down at KUL back in 2001.

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What Is The Current Status Of SV's HZ-AIO? (by Airbus_A340 Sep 25 2002 in Civil Aviation)
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2736 posts, RR: 24
It was a long story until this plane was finally written off... After it had happend they first wanted to repair it then again they wanted to write it off. That went on until 9/11 made them finally decide to write it off and at least get some money from the insurance since the plane would now not be needed anymore since demand fell drastically.

50 Million For HZ-AIO (by Rwy31R Jan 9 2002 in Civil Aviation)
It was rumored that the airline would repair it, but has recently collected 50 million dollars from the insurance provider.

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.

Still active at April 26, 2009
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quite a story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_Calloway#Hijacker


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6216 times:

Quoting wexfordflyer (Reply 9):
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8):
After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped

Thanks for that!!

I believe it is still intact and stored at Mojave, or it was a few months ago. Or have you seen something indicating that ti's been scrapped? It's still owned and registered to AC according to the Transport Canada aircraft registry website.


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5743 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5983 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
Or have you seen something indicating that ti's been scrapped?

Hi,
I thought I had read that the "glider" had been parted out but can no longer find any confirmation of this, added to the fact it is still on the Canadian register I will accede to your local expertise and accept it is still stored.

Regards



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5743 times:

Concerning F-GBEC, Jet Airliner Production List also states that it was scrapped in 1995, but says September.

It is important to remember that this plane was not new, (built 1980).

Furthermore, according to www.airfleets.net, Air France withdrew their last A300's in 1998.

It would prob not be worth the re build.


User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1455 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5648 times:

Any news on LHs "Landshut" D-ABCE which was hijacked 1977?
Youngest pic in the databas is from 2004 when she was flying for TAF Linhas Aereas as PT-MTB!


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

Quoting SQ325 (Reply 14):
Any news on LHs "Landshut" D-ABCE which was hijacked 1977?
Youngest pic in the databas is from 2004 when she was flying for TAF Linhas Aereas as PT-MTB!

Apparently wfu and stored at FOR 14 Jan 2008

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from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufthansa_Flight_181
"In January 2008, the Brazilian carrier TAF Linhas Aéreas stopped service of the aircraft under the registration PT-MTB due to severe damage."


User currently offlinechrisjw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.

N306FE is still flying as others have said. I believe it is supposed to be retired after AF/KLM sells 2 777F's to Fedex, not entirely sure though.

According to some people here on A.Net there are still marks on the overhead panel from the incident.

Edit: Spelling

[Edited 2010-02-14 15:57:31]

User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5279 times:

Quoting chrisjw (Reply 16):
Quoting alwaysontherun (Thread starter):
The Hi Jacked Fed Ex MD-11F.
Slightly battered on the inside I imagine.

N306FE is still flying as others have said. I believe it is supposed to be retired after AF/KLM sells 2 777F's to Fedex, not entirely sure though.

Actually N306FE was a DC-10 not an MD-11 and has since been converted to an MD-10. I don't know the retirement schedule on the MD-10's but 306 just went into C check at BFM so I wouldn't think they would retire it right away.



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User currently offlineAnshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 8):
After a long career with Air Canada C-GAUN was retired to Mojave on 24 Jan 2008, I believe she was then parted out and scrapped.

It got quite a farewell, in fact. It did a low flypast over the runway at an airport I cannot recall at the moment, with the crew that piloted the plane on board.  


IC-814 Hijacking - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Airlines_Flight_814

VT-EDW, the IC A300 that was hijacked and flown to Kandahar was put back into service and according to airfleets, is presently stored.

Here is the only photo of the frame in the database, taken just a few days after the crisis was resolved.


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User currently offlinechrisjw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 17):
Actually N306FE was a DC-10 not an MD-11 and has since been converted to an MD-10. I don't know the retirement schedule on the MD-10's but 306 just went into C check at BFM so I wouldn't think they would retire it right away.

Thanks for the correction and the update!

How long does the C check take on a MD-10?


User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
I believe it is still intact and stored at Mojave, or it was a few months ago.

I've seen a report from the start of Oct 2009 (so 4 months ago) saying that it was still intact and stored at Mojave (along with at least six other AC 767-200s).



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User currently offlineAeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4958 times:

Quoting Anshuk (Reply 18):
It got quite a farewell, in fact. It did a low flypast over the runway at an airport I cannot recall at the moment, with the crew that piloted the plane on board.

I'd imagine you're talking about YUL.

-Aeolus



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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

How about TACA Flight 110, a 733 that had both engines go out because of water ingestion from a thunderstorm and landed on a grass levee in New Orleans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110

The engines were apparently swapped out on site and the aircraft flown off the levee to MSY. According to Wikipedia that particular frame flies for WN now.

-IR


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-23838.htm

On checking the link, I found this.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 22):
How about TACA Flight 110, a 733 that had both engines go out because of water ingestion from a thunderstorm and landed on a grass levee in New Orleans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110

The engines were apparently swapped out on site and the aircraft flown off the levee to MSY. According to Wikipedia that particular frame flies for WN now.

Correct.


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25 Post contains links and images fanofjets : Here's a picture of the event: View Large View MediumPhoto © Youri Thonon - Contrails Aviation Photography This time last year, the aircraft was sti
26 Post contains links and images fanofjets : From what I read, the damage to the aircraft when she was stormed by the anti-terrorist forces was quite extensive, though I do not have the precise
27 stratosphere : Well it varies..But usually about 6 weeks give or take depending on what they find..
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