AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6699 posts, RR: 34 Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9547 times:
The media is reporting a Mexicana Click aircraft is off the runway at MTY. Runway 11/29 is closed and different rescue units are on scene. Two stories are emerging so far 1) The plane suffered a landing gear malfunction and was circling the airport, then, upon landing it failed to stop 2) The plane landed normally and then failed to stop.
Hope this is nothing serious. More info. should become available soon.
kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12672 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9087 times:
Here's the report from Aviation Herald; the aircraft elected to divert to MTY (after it was determined that both MLGs would not extend), fuel was burned off and the aircraft landed; it sustained considerable damage and turned c.180 degrees. Several pax were treated for shock:
enginebird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7692 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 13): every gear failure landing has a chance of going really bad. If this keeps up, there will be a catastrophic landing. Then everyone will point fingers at the type as to why it wasn't grounded.
Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 11): It's not as if doors are flying off like on the DC-10. It's a minor issue. OK, it's a pain in the arse for everybody but people aren't going to die if the wheels don't come down.
Sorry, totally disagree. Any plane out of control is a real danger to people on board and on the ground. How about an F100 catching fire during a belly-landing or one that does not stop on airport grounds and crashes into a house or gas station just behind the airport fence? And even if nobody gets injured or dies, it is bad enough that airports regularly get closed (e.g. STR a few months ago) for whole days just because of a known F100 problem, forcing dozens of other flights to be diverted or cancelled.
N405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7473 times:
The plane had the left main landing gear stuck, so it landed with only the nose gear and right main gear deployed, left gear never came down.
92 People onboard, plus 4 crew members, all "walked away" from the crash site, no injured, the only person "injured" was an old lady with a nervous crisis, also the isse was that she needed a wheelchair to get moved, despite she got "soaked" by the firemen when they deployed the foam and water to avoid the plane catching fire.
The plane landed on runway 29 and skidded off the runway near the runway 16-34 intersection, there was a little drizzle that made the runway work harder to determine the damage and that´s why the airport got closed more time than expected, also heavy fog from 4am until 8m made the airport closed more time.
I´d like to congrat the crew here, really young but thanks to their training all passenger could walk away, actually when they got into the aerocar, the passengers thanked the crew and gave them a big congrat for their job.
Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13666 posts, RR: 100
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5948 times:
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 20): Correction: Mexicana Click is switching to 717's.
I stand ready to be corrected by the 717 fanbase at any time.
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 20): Not sure how many of the 25 former-YX birds have come on line yet, but there's at least 7 of them in A.net's photo database.
Ok, it seems like yesterday that I read the first press-release on the lease. Then again, the last birds were in doubt of the source then (Republic).
With the average age of the F-100's at 18.5 years, it is time for new frames. When this 7 year lease expires, the 717's will only average 12.7 years (using PHLBOS's link and assuming that average is good).
Quoting olli (Reply 22): According to ATDB, there are 15 717's currently active and 19 F-100.
However, with only 10 more 717 scheduled to come over, that leaves a few F-100's to replace. Are opperations shrinking in frequency or are some of those F-100's idle waiting return to leasor?
Quoting enginebird (Reply 19): How about an F100 catching fire during a belly-landing or one that does not stop on airport grounds and crashes into a house or gas station just behind the airport fence? And even if nobody gets injured or dies, it is bad enough that airports regularly get closed (e.g. STR a few months ago) for whole days just because of a known F100 problem, forcing dozens of other flights to be diverted or cancelled.
Yea... regular gear problems are serious. No wonder the replacement was accelerated. (How did I miss that?)
Is it bad to point out I'm curious what Mexicana Click will do at the 717 lease expiration? Seriously, that will be an interesting decision point!
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