LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22021 posts, RR: 51 Posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5018 times:
Concesionaria Vuela Compania de Aviacion, S.A. de C.V. (dba Volaris) applied with the DOT to commence service between Guadalajara and San Jose and Chicago utilizing Airbus A319/A320 equipment.
No proposed schedule was submited, with listed proposed start up date "shortly after approval".
Y4 seems to be to be doing well in the US with its continued build up of service.
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737tanker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 221 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4903 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1): How long is that WN codeshare going to be delayed? Are the WN pilots putting up some kind of stink about it, or is it IT related, or something else.
The new contract, which was ratified Nov 1st, allows near international codeshare up to 4% of WN ASM. So any delays are being to by the corporate HQ and they claim it is IT related.
NetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4878 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1): I fully expect Volaris at MDW, with or without the codeshare in place.
Not sure about SJC since Mexicana has a monopoly there, but I expect Volaris to very well at MDW as well. Things are clicking for Volaris between the U.S and Mexico so far...
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3742 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4810 times:
Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 4): Not sure about SJC since Mexicana has a monopoly there, but I expect Volaris to very well at MDW as well. Things are clicking for Volaris between the U.S and Mexico so far...
It will definitely help lower fares @ SJC. There's a very large Hispanic population in that area which travels to Mexico and Central America. I'm hopeful this well help bring back some service lost @ SJC.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5524 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4791 times:
Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 4): Not sure about SJC since Mexicana has a monopoly there
I think they could do well at SJC against MX. It's the same setup at OAK. Now Y4 has 1X daily OAK-TIJ, 1X daily OAK-TLC (I think that's right) and 2X daily GDL.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4711 times:
Good to hear Volaris has applied GDL-Chicago. Let's see when they start this route.
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1): I fully expect Volaris at MDW, with or without the codeshare in place.
I agree, I think Volaris can make this route work.
Nothing so far. They approached the airport last year and got a very good quote for using it, but later decided not to start operations. Apparently Volaris thinks there is more business in California and Chicago than in Florida... I wonder how MX will protect its territory?
NetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4636 times:
Quoting rojo (Reply 8): Nothing so far. They approached the airport last year and got a very good quote for using it, but later decided not to start operations. Apparently Volaris thinks there is more business in California and Chicago than in Florida...
Won't be long before Volaris is flying to Southern Florida....I also see Volaris showing some interest in the New York, I'd love to see Volaris start operations to EWR
UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1240 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4622 times:
NetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4536 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 10): can a fully loaded A320 make it out of MDW with out restrictions to GDL?
-m
well if ATA made it all the way to Europe with their 757s on a regular basis, sure an Airbus can do a 4 hr flight out of MDW
Coronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1590 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4474 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 10): can a fully loaded A320 make it out of MDW with out restrictions to GDL?
An A320 should make it fine to GDL. I'm sure it won't be fully loaded as the flight takes no longer than 4 hours. At max it should take 4 hours. Last time MX flew to MDW they flew the A320 and 757 to Mexico.
Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 11): well if ATA made it all the way to Europe with their 757s on a regular basis, sure an Airbus can do a 4 hr flight out of MDW
Weren't these Europe flights flying with no passengers and cargo? I remember seeing these flights on flight tracker websites flying to and from SNN.
UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1240 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4427 times:
Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 13): Weren't these Europe flights flying with no passengers and cargo? I remember seeing these flights on flight tracker websites flying to and from SNN.
yes, empty, just minimum crew
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Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5524 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4410 times:
Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 12): Anyone rooting for a MDW-TIJ routing on Volaris?
LOL! I don't think you'll see too much in the way of TIJ to the US (or Canada for that matter) unless it was from the West Coast like SEA, PDX or YVR. I think OAK is one of very few US destinations with service to TIJ...only LAX (and surrounding airports) and maybe LAS.
MDW-TIJ would be lousy unless they expected to have a lot of O&D traffic...otherwise, that's a lot of backtracking, except maybe Cabo.
NetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4354 times:
Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 13): Weren't these Europe flights flying with no passengers and cargo? I remember seeing these flights on flight tracker websites flying to and from SNN.
correct, but I'm sure a 757 had to take close to a full load of fuel (if not full) to make Chicago-Europe....that's what I meant, if a 757 with 8-9 hours of fuel can get out of there, an A320 should be able to make MDW-GDL
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4330 times:
Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 16): correct, but I'm sure a 757 had to take close to a full load of fuel (if not full) to make Chicago-Europe....that's what I meant, if a 757 with 8-9 hours of fuel can get out of there, an A320 should be able to make MDW-GDL
Yeah an A320 should make MDW-GDL with no problems. ATA flew the route with a 738 when the 757s were being used some where else. When ATA was at it's best at MDW they flew 757 on MDW-AUA with passengers and cargo.
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 15): MDW-TIJ would be lousy unless they expected to have a lot of O&D traffic...otherwise, that's a lot of backtracking, except maybe Cabo.
Now that would be an interesting route! Unless they do something like Ryanair and decide to call Tijuana, San Diego.
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3742 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4320 times:
Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 17): Yeah an A320 should make MDW-GDL with no problems. ATA flew the route with a 738 when the 757s were being used some where else. When ATA was at it's best at MDW they flew 757 on MDW-AUA with passengers and
Y4's 319s might be the better bet on this route vs the 320.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
Quoting laca773 (Reply 18): Y4's 319s might be the better bet on this route vs the 320.
I agree, the A319s are better to start the route with. Once the route has been established for some time then they can risk and send an A320.
DesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 4039 times:
I am excited to see Volaris expanding northward. I flew them last October from TIJ to HMO. They run a very professional operation. I anxious for the WN code share to begin so I can receive WN points for the Volaris flights I take.
NetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3878 times:
Quoting DesertAir (Reply 20): I am excited to see Volaris expanding northward
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22021 posts, RR: 51 Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3825 times:
Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 21): I don't think Aeromexico shares your excitment
And it only has itself to blame.
At one time AM was the premier airline in the US-Mexico market (MX was smaller, and focused more on vacation, ethnic crowds) and since the 1960s very succesfully flew the Mexican flag far an wide, but today its performance in places like the US market is a faint shadow of its glory.
Quite sad how a company so well placed in a market can end up in shambles.
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Chase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3773 times:
Has it been officially announced that the Chicago-area airport is MDW? I mean, given the upcoming WN codeshare it's a pretty bulletproof assumption, but I'm just wondering if it's been confirmed.
IIRC, they were talking GYY last summer, but that got derailed because of a lack of customs/immigration facilities, right?
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3743 times:
Quoting Chase (Reply 23): they were talking GYY last summer, but that got derailed because of a lack of customs/immigration facilities, right?
That was Viva Aerobus who applied at GYY not Volaris.
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