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TMA's First A300-600F  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

Last October, Lebanese cargo carrier Trans Mediterranean Airways (TMA) relaunched operations after a more than four year hiatus. Since that time, it's been renovating and expanding its facilities in Beirut and announced that it will resume air freight operations with an A300-600F.

TMA Relaunches Operations, Introduces New Livery (by BA Oct 21 2009 in Civil Aviation)

According to a TMA Facebook group, the first A300-600F is in Louisana being serviced and will be delivered to TMA soon. Interestingly, it will be registered in the U.S. as N140MN. Some photos of it being serviced can be seen in this Facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59670464292

Interestingly, this is one of the last A300s built, having been built in July 2006. It was previously in service with Japanese carrier, Galaxy Airlines as JA02GX.

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Here's a photo taken in 2006 of TMA's rundown facilities and grounded 707s:

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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5885 times:

Great news, would be nice to see them back at AMS. Does anyone know what routes they will be flying?


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5823 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 1):
Great news, would be nice to see them back at AMS. Does anyone know what routes they will be flying?

AMS was a very important destination for TMA before they shut down, so I do hope they come back.

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I have not heard anything about planned routes yet.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5635 times:

According to this article, the A300F4-622R will arrive in Beirut at the end of this month:
http://www.meed.com/sectors/transpor...iterranean-airways/3003991.article



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User currently offlinedalce From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1672 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5563 times:

At least they still have an office at AMS. They are located in Triport 3.
Once every couple of weeks I see the guys there.
Hope to see them back operating at AMS.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12275 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5523 times:
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Quoting BA (Reply 2):
AMS was a very important destination for TMA

As was Heathrow a LONG time ago!   

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It would be great to see an A300 in those old colours!   



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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

Excellent news. Let's hope they start with AMS, it should work out well with them since there is currently no direct connection between BEY and AMS. I also see them targeting the African market though.


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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4250 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

Great to see them back. TMA has experience with Airbus freighters; before they stopped their ops, they got to operate TF-ELS, an A310-F of Islandflug (currently with EY).


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Great to see them back. TMA has experience with Airbus freighters; before they stopped their ops, they got to operate TF-ELS, an A310-F of Islandflug (currently with EY).

Very true, however this was only wet-lease for several months in 2002. It was completely operated and mainted by Islandsflug crew.

This A300 will either be a dry-lease or they will own it, so TMA will be responsible for its maintenance and operations.



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Do not know if they will come with A300-600F or 733F at Orly , but it is sure they will come back here.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5069 times:

This aircraft is presently owned by Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee, I wonder if they seized it after Galaxy Airlines shut down?

Here's another photo of the iconic TMA hangar taken in 2005:

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Quoting FCKC (Reply 9):
Do not know if they will come with A300-600F or 733F at Orly , but it is sure they will come back here.

733F?

I've only heard plans to get this A300 for the time being. The rendering of the 737 in TMA colors in the thread from last October is just a computer graphic, I don't think they are planning to get a 737 freighter, although it would be nice.



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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

I'm gonna pop a question here. TMA clearly had the rights to destinations such as Orly, JFK, Schipol, and others. Once it resumes operations, will all of these rights be preserved? Are there some that expire for example? Conditional rights? I understand it will probably be difficult to pin point the exacts of TMA, but I'm sure someone here can explain to me how this system operates... For example, is there really a chance we will see TMA fly to JFK again? Is it definite that they can fly to AMS? Its interesting to know this, because every added aircraft in the future could mean one hell of a surprising route! And I'd say if it can, TMA will go towards destinations MEA does not serve, this way it will have no cargo competitors on the route (of course unless another airline is serving the destination).

On a side note, does Martinair still serve BEY? Cargolux?

Edit: Is there any information on where the 707s might be relocated when the hangar begins to be used again? Are they even operational?

[Edited 2010-02-13 12:50:42]


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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quote:
BEIRUT - According Byblos Bank's Lebanon This Week, figures released by the Hariri International Airport (HIA) show that the number of airport passengers (arrivals, departures, transit) amounted to 369,694 in January 2010, up 20.4% year-on-year. The UAE accounted for 79,755 passengers, or 21.6% of total passenger activity. It was followed by Saudi Arabia with 40,701 passengers, or 11% of the total, France with 36,078 travelers ( 9.7%) and Kuwait with 29,512 travelers (8%). The total number of flights reached 5,134 in January 2010, up 28.4% year-on-year. Middle East Airlines registered 1,460 flights, accounting for 28.4% of the total. It was distantly followed by Royal Jordanian Airlines with 248 flights or 4.8% of the total, Etihad Airways with 158 flights, Emirates Airlines with 153 flights and Jazeera Airways with 142 flights.

The UAE was the biggest source and destination of traffic to Lebanon, as aircraft movement to and from the UAE totaled 843 flights, accounting for 16.5% of the total. Also, the HIA processed 5,369 metric tons of cargo in January 2010, of which 5,290 tons of freight and 79 tons of mail. Total cargo processed in January increased by 4.1% compared to the same month of 2009. MEA processed 1,392 tons of freight, of which 1,371 tons in regular freight and 21 tons in mail.
http://www.iloubnan.info/business/actualite/id/42603

The interesting part is the freight traffic. Hopefully TMA is resuming at an appropriate time.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

Quoting ramzi (Reply 11):
I'm gonna pop a question here. TMA clearly had the rights to destinations such as Orly, JFK, Schipol, and others. Once it resumes operations, will all of these rights be preserved? Are there some that expire for example? Conditional rights? I understand it will probably be difficult to pin point the exacts of TMA, but I'm sure someone here can explain to me how this system operates... For example, is there really a chance we will see TMA fly to JFK again? Is it definite that they can fly to AMS? Its interesting to know this, because every added aircraft in the future could mean one hell of a surprising route! And I'd say if it can, TMA will go towards destinations MEA does not serve, this way it will have no cargo competitors on the route (of course unless another airline is serving the destination).

I am pretty sure the old traffic rights they had are not valid anymore, but either way, access to Europe should not be a problem at all.

Quoting ramzi (Reply 11):
On a side note, does Martinair still serve BEY? Cargolux?

Martinair Cargo does not, but Cargolux still does. They fly 3x weekly.

A UAE cargo carrier called Midex Airlines flies 3x weekly from AAN to BEY continuing to ORY using an A300B4-203F.

http://midex.glnetwork.org/

Quoting ramzi (Reply 11):
Edit: Is there any information on where the 707s might be relocated when the hangar begins to be used again? Are they even operational?

The 707s won't ever fly again. They will probably be scrapped.



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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 13):
Martinair Cargo does not, but Cargolux still does. They fly 3x weekly.

They only operated for a short while. Or was it not even a scheduled service? I remember seeing them at the cargo terminal often after the 2006 war.

Quoting BA (Reply 13):

A UAE cargo carrier called Midex Airlines flies 3x weekly from AAN to BEY continuing to ORY using an A300B4-203F.

Yup, remember the water canon salute on that one. It seems cargo tends to fly to ORY rather than CDG, any reason?

Quoting BA (Reply 13):

The 707s won't ever fly again. They will probably be scrapped.

Obviously   I was wondering if they could be started to drive away from where they're parked at.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Quoting ramzi (Reply 14):
They only operated for a short while. Or was it not even a scheduled service? I remember seeing them at the cargo terminal often after the 2006 war.

It was scheduled. They dropped BEY last year.

Quoting ramzi (Reply 14):
Yup, remember the water canon salute on that one. It seems cargo tends to fly to ORY rather than CDG, any reason?

Cargo carriers often fly to secondary airports that have well developed cargo facilities. Airport authorities often try to encourage cargo carriers to fly to secondary airports to avoid adding congestion to their primary airports.

In Europe, Oostende and Maastricht are examples of smaller airports that are attractive for air freight.

Quoting ramzi (Reply 14):
Obviously I was wondering if they could be started to drive away from where they're parked at.

They can tow them around. In fact, they've been moving them around a lot as different photos I see always show the 707s positioned differently around the TMA facilities.

[Edited 2010-02-13 14:47:28]


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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 15):
It was scheduled. They dropped BEY last year.

Too bad.

Quoting BA (Reply 15):
Cargo carriers often fly to secondary airports that have well developed cargo facilities. Airport authorities often try to encourage cargo carriers to fly to secondary airports to avoid adding congestion to their primary airports.

Interesting, and quite logical. Thanks for the info.

Quoting BA (Reply 15):
different photos I see always show the 707s positioned differently around the TMA facilities.

I should drive by and take a look sometime soon.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting ramzi (Reply 16):
I should drive by and take a look sometime soon.

And if you can, take a photo.  



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User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Quoting BA (Reply 17):
And if you can, take a photo.

Promise to try my best 



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Here she is:




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User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1713 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

Wow , lovely striking livery! Well done TMA!

TMA's network was quite extensive, covering the globe. I'm sure they will expand but it would be wise for them to
follow MEA's lead by building on proven routes before branching out to less profitable destinations.

I wonder if MEA and TMA would ever merge or if MEA could buy TMA and operate MEA Cargo!



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 20):
I wonder if MEA and TMA would ever merge or if MEA could buy TMA and operate MEA Cargo!

This was proposed a few years back, but MEA said they were not interested in the dedicated air freight market.



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