Wow, MIA really doesn't have an extensive network to Mexico. I would have imagined that it would have service at least to big places like GDL, MTY, MLM, ZCL, BHX, etc. I guess IAH, ORD, DFW, ATL, and LAX take a lot of the connecting traffice.
Sad to see that the plans for upgrade to a 772 were either shelved or haven't happened yet. Still, SCL is well served from AA via LAN's direct and nonstop flights.
General musing: how come AA is not upgrading the MAD flight this summer from MIA but is from DFW? Is it due to the fact that IB has a daily 346 that takes care of the premium pax/have something to do with ATI?
sflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5916 times:
Is Gulfstream only running MIA-ELH as their only international destination ex MIA. Everything else ex MIA is domestic? Interesting. I assume the rest is flying out of FLL. Mark, maybe you can include FLL international flying this summer.
PRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1190 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5630 times:
AA yields on MIA-MAD are lower than DFW-MAD therefore they decided to upgrade the DFW flight...MIA-MAD was a 777 like for a year and did not work. AA could not fill up the First Class cabin on MIA-MAD, IB does not offer First Class either. MIA is a more leisure oriented market and yields are lower...that's why.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34355 posts, RR: 70
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5487 times:
Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 12): AA yields on MIA-MAD are lower than DFW-MAD therefore they decided to upgrade the DFW flight...MIA-MAD was a 777 like for a year and did not work. AA could not fill up the First Class cabin on MIA-MAD, IB does not offer First Class either. MIA is a more leisure oriented market and yields are lower...that's why.
Absolutely, patently false.
Miami-Madrid has always been a strong market for American. The first class cabin did quite well during the winter, but did start to suffer during the summer - as did pretty much all premium traffic to Europe in the summer of 2009. Currently, AA is tentatively planning to resume 777 service on Miami-Madrid in November 2010.
The Dallas-Madrid route is going to a 777 because of the capacity needed, not because of the first class cabin. AA knows that the F cabin will be full of free upgrades, but AA needs the extra Y capacity because of a large expected flow of passengers between via Madrid to other destinations in continental Europe.
Miami-Europe does have a large leisure component, but is a traditionally strong yielding market with excellent premium demand, especially to southern Europe.
AA MIA-GUA missed the 763.
Same on AA MIA-SJO since AA MIA-FLL with 738 was substituted by the fotrh daily AA MIA-SJO.
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 7): AA does a double daily to Bolivia? That is very impressive. Does VVI have a dedicated n/s flight from MIA or do all AA services there follow the triangular routing?
The airline operated in the past in Bolivia as AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 7x weekly and AA MIA-VVI 4x weekly with 752 all the way.
AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 7x weekly with 752 is the only route at this time.
I did a quick research at amadeus.net and AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 14x weekly is already loaded in the system.
Both NK FLL-SJO and NK FLL-LIM worked as 14x weekly in the past during the US summer break.
This time their frequencies are reduced as shown.
In the case of San Jose, AA SJO-FLL was cancelled in favor of the forth-daily AA MIA-SJO. However, NK FLL-SJO is not deploying its red-eye to San Jose on daily basis this year.
Any idea why AA is not upgrading the 752 to CCS? What happened to the 763 that was supposed to substitute the A300? The last time they sent it, or at least tried to, was on my flight which was delayed for +9 hrs and they ended up sending a 757. 28 weekly frequencies seem quite high.
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cybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 528 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4764 times:
Quoting 797 (Reply 17): Any idea why AA is not upgrading the 752 to CCS? What happened to the 763 that was supposed to substitute the A300? The last time they sent it, or at least tried to, was on my flight which was delayed for +9 hrs and they ended up sending a 757. 28 weekly frequencies seem quite high.
Probably now with the devaluation they seem pretty high. Back to the times AA had also a 5th frequency on this route and now it is gone. But actually Venezuelan market is quite surprising. I was checking in another thread and the load factors from CCS to USA in AA and in other airlines are over the 95% which is quite amazing. The CCS-MIA-CCS route is always the most demanding one between the frequent Venezuelan travelers so finding a cheap ticket and some space in those flights is a real hard task. As a matter of fact S3 had to open a third frequency during the high season to handle the amount of demand that the route had, but now for the next summer period (high season too) this third frequency is out. The same with LA which used to operate special flights. I'm presuming that this is all about the devaluation so the consequences are no 763 for CCS in AA, no more third frequency for SBA Airlines and no more special flights from our southern buddies of LA.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 9541 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4509 times:
Quoting hardiwv (Reply 20): What is the foreign airline with the biggest seat supply in MIA? TAM?
Tam has 4 A330 or 767 flights, Avianca has 5 A319/320 + 1 767, Lufthansa has 1 A333+ 1 744 + 3 w A333, TACA has 5 A320 + 1 E90, and BA has 2 744's daily. Many airlines operate with 600-1000 seats daily to Miami, but Avianca would be by guess by a hair since they have a 767 and 5 A320' daily to Colombia.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10649 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4485 times:
As usual thanks for posting the new schedule MAH4546. I have a question, how much frequencies were there between MIA and BOG in november-december of last year? I could only trace 14 flights operated by AA and 14 operated by AV. Am I missing some?
Also, with regards to Insel Air, I read the MIA-PAP flights continue onto CUR and than heading back again via PAP. Is this still correct?
LAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 8288 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4470 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13): The Dallas-Madrid route is going to a 777 because of the capacity needed, not because of the first class cabin. AA knows that the F cabin will be full of free upgrades, but AA needs the extra Y capacity because of a large expected flow of passengers between via Madrid to other destinations in continental Europe.
Im not so sure about that.
There are only 5 more Y seats in an AA 777 than an AA 763. If that is the case then why bother?
There are 7 more J seats on the 777.
I think a more logical reason would be that DFW-MAD preforms better in the Northern Summer and MIA-MAD preforms better in the Northern Winter with MIA-MAD preforming slightly better on a year round basis (based on what Ive heard from my contact at AA, thats accurate anyhow).
I still think that when ATI hits, the best plane for DFW-MAD is an IB 343/346 with a high Y and J capacity, but no F capacity.
It is what it is...
: Wow! This allows me to wonder if this devaluation is even affecting the traveling community in Venezuela? My parents had the hardest time finding tic
: Without counting the # of seats, it looks like the LAN family offers the most departures, albeit under different national brands. They put a lot of m
: Plus LA SCL-BOG-MIA-BOG-SCL 3x weekly. Insel Air will not operate non-stop flights between PAP and CUR, instead via SXM.
: It's not gone because that's what AA wants, its gone because AA is not allowed to operate it. AA has been wanting to add back the 5th frequency, go d
: Very interesting overview, thanks for posting this. Some questions and comments: Impressive amount of capacity into Port au Prince! The FLL-PAP route