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MIA Summer 2010 International Flying  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5577 times:

For those interested, here is the schedule so far for 2010 international flying from Miami for summer 2010, based on July flying.

Aerogal
MIA-GYE-UIO: 7w 752

Aerolineas Argentinas
MIA-EZE: 7w 343

Aeromexico
MIA-MEX: 9w 73G, 7w 738
MIA-MID-MEX: 3w ERJ

Aerosur
MIA-VVI: 4w 752

Air Berlin
MIA-DUS: 5w 332

Air Canada
MIA-YYZ: 5w 319, 2w 320

Air Europa
MIA-MAD: 4w 332
MIA-TFN: 1w 332

Air France
MIA-CDG: 7w 744
MIA-PAP-PTP: 7w 320

Alitalia
MIA-FCO: 6w 772
MIA-MXP: 3w 772

American Airlines
MIA-ANU: 7w 738
MIA-AUA: 14w 752
MIA-BDA: 7w 738
MIA-BGI: 14w 752
MIA-BOG: 7w 752, 7w 763
MIA-BZE: 14w 738
MIA-CDG: 7w 763
MIA-CCS: 28w 752
MIA-CLO: 7w 738
MIA-CNF: 4w 763
MIA-CUN: 30w 738
MIA-CUR: 14w 738
MIA-EZE: 11w 772
MIA-EZE-MVD: 3w 772
MIA-GCM: 21w 738
MIA-GIG: 11w 763
MIA-GND: 4w 738
MIA-GRU: 14w 763, 7w 772
MIA-GUA: 21w 738
MIA-GYE: 3w 738, 7w 763
MIA-KIN: 28w 738
MIA-LHR: 8w 772
MIA-LIM: 14w 752, 7w 763
MIA-LIR: 7w 738
MIA-LPB-VVI: 14w 752
MIA-LRM: 2w 738
MIA-MAD: 7w 763
MIA-MAR: 7w 752
MIA-MBJ: 14w 738, 7w 752
MIA-MDE: 14w 738
MIA-MEX: 21w 738
MIA-MGA: 7w 738, 7w 763
MIA-MVD: 4w 763
MIA-PAP: 7w 738, 7w 752, 14w 763
MIA-PLS: 21w 738
MIA-POP: 7w 752
MIA-POS: 7w 752, 7w 763
MIA-PUJ: 21w 738
MIA-PTY: 14w 738, 7w 752
MIA-SAL: 14w 738
MIA-SAP: 14w 752
MIA-SCL: 7w 763
MIA-SDQ: 21w 752, 7w 763
MIA-SJO: 7w 738, 21w 752
MIA-SKB: 7w 738
MIA-SSA-REC: 7w 752
MIA-STI: 10w 738
MIA-SXM: 14w 738
MIA-TGU: 7w 752
MIA-UIO: 14w 752
MIA-UVF: 10w 752
MIA-YUL: 21w 738
MIA-YYZ: 21w 738

American Eagle
<acronym title=" miami="" international="" kmia="" usa="" florida="">MIA-ELH: 4w AT7
MIA-FPO: 31w AT7
MIA-GGT: 7w AT7
MIA-GHB: 3w AT7
MIA-MHH: 14w AT7
MIA-NAS: 64w AT7, 7w ER4
MIA-TCB: 4w AT7

Avianca
MIA-BAQ: 7w 320
MIA-BOG: 7w 752, 3w 762, 4w 763
MIA-CLO: 7w 320
MIA-CTG-PEI: 7w 319
MIA-MDE: 7w 320

Avior
MIA-BLA: 3w 732

Bahamasair
MIA-NAS: 21w 732

British Airways
MIA-LHR: 14w 744

Caribbean Airlines
MIA-POS-GEO: 7w 738

Cayman Airways
MIA-GCM: 17w 733
MIA-GCM-CYB: 4w 733

Continental Connection
MIA-ELH: 7w BE1

Copa
MIA-PTY: 7w 738, 14w 73G

Corsairfly
MIA-ORY: 2w 744

Iberia
MIA-MAD: 7w 346

Insel Air
MIA-BON-CUR: 1w M80
MIA-CUR: 6w M80
MIA-PAP: 7w M80

LACSA
MIA-SJO: 7w E90

LAN Argentina
MIA-EZE: 7w 763
MIA-PUJ-EZE: 1w 763

LAN Chile
MIA-BOG-SCL: 3w 763
MIA-CCS-SCL: 1w 763
MIA-CCS-GYE-SCL: 1w 763
MIA-PUJ-SCL: 1w 763
MIA-SCL: 10w 763

LAN Ecuador
MIA-UIO-GYE: 7w 763

LAN Peru
MIA-LIM: 11w 763
MIA-PUJ-LIM: 2w 763

Lufthansa
MIA-DUS: 6w 333 (through May 16th; resumes October 6th)
MIA-FRA: 7w 744
MIA-MUC: 3w 333

Mexicana
MIA-CUN: 7w 318, 7w 320
MIA-MEX: 7w 318, 7w 320

SBA Airlines
MIA-CCS: 13w 752

Surinam Airways
MIA-AUA-PBM: 3w 733

Swiss
MIA-ZRH: 7w 343

TACA
MIA-GUA-SAL: 7w 320
MIA-MGA: 7w E90
MIA-MGA-SAL: 7w 320
MIA-RTB-SAL: 1w 320
MIA-SAL: 7w 320
MIA-SAP-TGU: 7w 320

TAM
MIA-MAO: 7w 763
MIA-GIG: 7w 763
MIA-GRU: 14w 332

Virgin Atlantic Airways
MIA-LHR: 7w 744

Westjet
MIA-YYZ: 7w 73W

[Edited 2010-02-16 21:29:09]

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User currently offlineSCL767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5591 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
American Airlines

MIA-KIN 4x daily (B738).


User currently offlineBigGSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
MIA-MVD: 4w 763

So this flight is now nonstop year round?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5555 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
MIA-KIN 4x daily (B738).

Fixed, thanks.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 2):
So this flight is now nonstop year round?

Yes, between 3w and 5w non-stops.


User currently offlineSATexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

What about MIA-CNF on AA?

User currently offlineRodRB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

Tks for the numbers!

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
MIA-GRU: 14w 763, 7w 772

GRU downgraded to 763. Any reason?

Any info about CNF?


User currently offlineSCL767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5514 times:
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Quoting SATexan (Reply 4):
What about MIA-CNF on AA?

MIA-CNF 4x weekly (B763)

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 2):
Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
MIA-MVD: 4w 763

So this flight is now nonstop year round?

Also, AA 943 MIA-EZE-MVD 3x weekly


User currently offlineIrishAyes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):


Aeromexico
MIA-MEX: 9w 73G, 7w 738
MIA-MID-MEX: 3w ERJ

Mexicana
MIA-CUN: 7w 318, 7w 320
MIA-MEX: 7w 318, 7w 320


Wow, MIA really doesn't have an extensive network to Mexico. I would have imagined that it would have service at least to big places like GDL, MTY, MLM, ZCL, BHX, etc. I guess IAH, ORD, DFW, ATL, and LAX take a lot of the connecting traffice.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):

MIA-LPB-VVI: 14w 752

AA does a double daily to Bolivia? That is very impressive. Does VVI have a dedicated n/s flight from MIA or do all AA services there follow the triangular routing?

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):

MIA-SCL: 7w 763

Sad to see that the plans for upgrade to a 772 were either shelved or haven't happened yet. Still, SCL is well served from AA via LAN's direct and nonstop flights.

General musing: how come AA is not upgrading the MAD flight this summer from MIA but is from DFW? Is it due to the fact that IB has a daily 346 that takes care of the premium pax/have something to do with ATI?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

Quoting RodRB (Reply 5):
Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
MIA-GRU: 14w 763, 7w 772

GRU downgraded to 763. Any reason?

Happens every summer as 772 shift to Europe flying.


User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Air Canada
MIA-MIA-MAD: 4w 332
MIA-TFN: 1w 332

I think you mean Air Europa??


User currently onlineOB1504 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Air Canada
MIA-MIA-MAD: 4w 332
MIA-TFN: 1w 332

I'm assuming that was intended to say "Air Europa"?

Nonetheless, I'm very happy to see MIA so well connected with countries near and far. It's been a very good year so far for the airport as well as its largest carrier.


User currently offlinesflaflight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Is Gulfstream only running MIA-ELH as their only international destination ex MIA. Everything else ex MIA is domestic? Interesting. I assume the rest is flying out of FLL. Mark, maybe you can include FLL international flying this summer.

User currently offlinePRAirbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

AA yields on MIA-MAD are lower than DFW-MAD therefore they decided to upgrade the DFW flight...MIA-MAD was a 777 like for a year and did not work. AA could not fill up the First Class cabin on MIA-MAD, IB does not offer First Class either. MIA is a more leisure oriented market and yields are lower...that's why.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 12):
AA yields on MIA-MAD are lower than DFW-MAD therefore they decided to upgrade the DFW flight...MIA-MAD was a 777 like for a year and did not work. AA could not fill up the First Class cabin on MIA-MAD, IB does not offer First Class either. MIA is a more leisure oriented market and yields are lower...that's why.

Absolutely, patently false.

Miami-Madrid has always been a strong market for American. The first class cabin did quite well during the winter, but did start to suffer during the summer - as did pretty much all premium traffic to Europe in the summer of 2009. Currently, AA is tentatively planning to resume 777 service on Miami-Madrid in November 2010.

The Dallas-Madrid route is going to a 777 because of the capacity needed, not because of the first class cabin. AA knows that the F cabin will be full of free upgrades, but AA needs the extra Y capacity because of a large expected flow of passengers between via Madrid to other destinations in continental Europe.

Miami-Europe does have a large leisure component, but is a traditionally strong yielding market with excellent premium demand, especially to southern Europe.

Anything else you would like to make up today?


User currently onlineSJOtoLIR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Aerogal
MIA-GYE-UIO: 7w 752

During its first attempt, AeroGal tried to fly such route with 734 and leased from Ryan International Airlines, if I remember correctly.




.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
MIA-GUA: 21w 738

AA MIA-GUA missed the 763.
Same on AA MIA-SJO since AA MIA-FLL with 738 was substituted by the fotrh daily AA MIA-SJO.




.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 7):
AA does a double daily to Bolivia? That is very impressive. Does VVI have a dedicated n/s flight from MIA or do all AA services there follow the triangular routing?

The airline operated in the past in Bolivia as AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 7x weekly and AA MIA-VVI 4x weekly with 752 all the way.
AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 7x weekly with 752 is the only route at this time.
I did a quick research at amadeus.net and AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA 14x weekly is already loaded in the system.

Regards.


User currently offlineShadez From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Here's the FLL schedule:

Air Canada:
FLL-YYZ: 8w 320, 6w 319
FLL-YUL: 7w 320

Air Jamaica:
FLL-KIN: 21w 320
FLL-MBJ: 7w 320

Aires:
FLL-BAQ: 7w 73W
FLL-BOG: 7w 73W
FLL-CLO: 4w 73W
FLL-CTG: 7w 73W

American:
FLL-PAP: 14w 738

Avianca:
FLL-BOG: 7w 320

Bahamasair:
FLL-NAS: 14w 737, 7w DH8
FLL-FPO: 9w DH8

Caribbean:
FLL-POS: 7w 738

Condor:
FLL-FRA: 2w 763

Continental Connection:
FLL-ASD: 2w BE1
FLL-BIM: 7w BE1
FLL-FPO: 28w BE1
FLL-GHB: 7w BE1
FLL-GGT: 14w BE1
FLL-MHH: 14w BE1
FLL-NAS: 7w BE1
FLL-ELH: 21w BE1
FLL-TCH: 14w BE1

JetBlue:
FLL-CUN: 7w E90
FLL-NAS: 14w E90
FLL-SDQ: 7w 320

Spirit Airlines:
FLL-AXM: 4w 319
FLL-AUA: 1w 319
FLL-BOG: 7w 319
FLL-CUN: 8w 319
FLL-CTG: 8w3 19
FLL-FPO: 2w 319
FLL-GUA: 6w 319
FLL-KIN: 7w 319
FLL-LIM: 7w 319
FLL-MGA: 3w 319
FLL-MBJ: 6w 319, 2w 320
FLL-MDE 7w 319
FLL-NAS: 7w 319
FLL-PAP: 7w 319
FLL-PTY: 3w 319
FLL-PUJ: 7w 319
FLL-SDQ: 14w 319
FLL-SAP: 4w 319
FLL-SJO: 11x 319
FLL-STI: 7w 319
FLL-SXM: 1w 319
FLL-ZSA: 1w 319

WestJet:
FLL-YYZ: 8w 73H
FLL-YUL: 4w 73W


User currently onlineSJOtoLIR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4460 times:

Quoting Shadez (Reply 15):
FLL-LIM: 7w 319
FLL-SJO: 11x 319

Both NK FLL-SJO and NK FLL-LIM worked as 14x weekly in the past during the US summer break.
This time their frequencies are reduced as shown.
In the case of San Jose, AA SJO-FLL was cancelled in favor of the forth-daily AA MIA-SJO. However, NK FLL-SJO is not deploying its red-eye to San Jose on daily basis this year.

Regards.


User currently offline797 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days ago) and read 4441 times:

Hi Mark,
thanks for the info!

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
American:
MIA-CCS: 28w 752

Any idea why AA is not upgrading the 752 to CCS? What happened to the 763 that was supposed to substitute the A300? The last time they sent it, or at least tried to, was on my flight which was delayed for +9 hrs and they ended up sending a 757. 28 weekly frequencies seem quite high.

Thanks!


User currently offlinejfk777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4337 times:
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Quoting RodRB (Reply 5):
MIA-GRU: 14w 763, 7w 772

GRU downgraded to 763. Any reason?

Any info about CNF?

No more deiveries of 777 and Chicago to Peking starting in late April demands 2 777's.


User currently offlinecybergus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 17):
Any idea why AA is not upgrading the 752 to CCS? What happened to the 763 that was supposed to substitute the A300? The last time they sent it, or at least tried to, was on my flight which was delayed for +9 hrs and they ended up sending a 757. 28 weekly frequencies seem quite high.

Probably now with the devaluation they seem pretty high. Back to the times AA had also a 5th frequency on this route and now it is gone. But actually Venezuelan market is quite surprising. I was checking in another thread and the load factors from CCS to USA in AA and in other airlines are over the 95% which is quite amazing. The CCS-MIA-CCS route is always the most demanding one between the frequent Venezuelan travelers so finding a cheap ticket and some space in those flights is a real hard task. As a matter of fact S3 had to open a third frequency during the high season to handle the amount of demand that the route had, but now for the next summer period (high season too) this third frequency is out. The same with LA which used to operate special flights. I'm presuming that this is all about the devaluation so the consequences are no 763 for CCS in AA, no more third frequency for SBA Airlines and no more special flights from our southern buddies of LA.

Cheers

Tavo


User currently offlinehardiwv From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Mark, thanks for the interesting overview.

What is the foreign airline with the biggest seat supply in MIA? TAM?

Anyone with the list pertaining to MCO?

Rgs,


User currently offlinejfk777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3885 times:
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Quoting hardiwv (Reply 20):
What is the foreign airline with the biggest seat supply in MIA? TAM?

Tam has 4 A330 or 767 flights, Avianca has 5 A319/320 + 1 767, Lufthansa has 1 A333+ 1 744 + 3 w A333, TACA has 5 A320 + 1 E90, and BA has 2 744's daily. Many airlines operate with 600-1000 seats daily to Miami, but Avianca would be by guess by a hair since they have a 767 and 5 A320' daily to Colombia.


User currently offlineAJMIA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

I do not believe that the AA summer schedule is complete yet. We may see a few more international adds by AA.

On the domestic side I have heard that AA will fly MIA-TUL a few times a week. 737s need to cycle into maintenance and they believe they can operate them profitably as passenger flights.

AJMIA


User currently offlineA388 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

As usual thanks for posting the new schedule MAH4546. I have a question, how much frequencies were there between MIA and BOG in november-december of last year? I could only trace 14 flights operated by AA and 14 operated by AV. Am I missing some?

Also, with regards to Insel Air, I read the MIA-PAP flights continue onto CUR and than heading back again via PAP. Is this still correct?

A388


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
The Dallas-Madrid route is going to a 777 because of the capacity needed, not because of the first class cabin. AA knows that the F cabin will be full of free upgrades, but AA needs the extra Y capacity because of a large expected flow of passengers between via Madrid to other destinations in continental Europe.

Im not so sure about that.

There are only 5 more Y seats in an AA 777 than an AA 763. If that is the case then why bother?

There are 7 more J seats on the 777.

I think a more logical reason would be that DFW-MAD preforms better in the Northern Summer and MIA-MAD preforms better in the Northern Winter with MIA-MAD preforming slightly better on a year round basis (based on what Ive heard from my contact at AA, thats accurate anyhow).

I still think that when ATI hits, the best plane for DFW-MAD is an IB 343/346 with a high Y and J capacity, but no F capacity.


25 797 : Wow! This allows me to wonder if this devaluation is even affecting the traveling community in Venezuela? My parents had the hardest time finding tic
26 BNAFlyer : Without counting the # of seats, it looks like the LAN family offers the most departures, albeit under different national brands. They put a lot of m
27 SCL767 : Plus LA SCL-BOG-MIA-BOG-SCL 3x weekly. Insel Air will not operate non-stop flights between PAP and CUR, instead via SXM.
28 MAH4546 : It's not gone because that's what AA wants, its gone because AA is not allowed to operate it. AA has been wanting to add back the 5th frequency, go d
29 PacificClipper : Very interesting overview, thanks for posting this. Some questions and comments: Impressive amount of capacity into Port au Prince! The FLL-PAP route
30 s4popo : They are out altogether.
31 LipeGIG : And to JFK-EZE. I believe last year they used 2 B763 on JFK-EZE during summer and this year EZE will continue all 772... am i right ? In the other ha
32 AA787 : They had 2 763 last winter but it is now 1 772.
33 OB1504 : Then again, NK could be facing some real competition in the form of B6. It's only three destinations now, but they have a much better product and a s
34 LipeGIG : But both flights are overnight... i believe they need 2 B772 to do it.
35 Post contains links SCL767 : Technically they are not out of MIA. Air Jamaica Cargo still operates three weekly cargo flights between KIN and MIA. http://www.airjamaica.com/Cargo
36 PacificClipper : Wow, I remember them flying A300s (alongside 727s) to MIA in the 80s. AA really is a machine at MIA.
37 hardiwv : Also good to see GRU 21w weekly, in will be a good complement to GRU-DFW 10 weekly. Rgs,
38 A388 : What is the break-even point on AA's MIA-CUR-MIA route? I've flown the route twice last year and all flights were packed to the max. I was also told
39 A388 : Thanks SCL767. They actually did fly MIA-PAP-CUR-PAP-MIA for a short while but don't do so anymore. They aircraft arrived in CUR around 13:00 and hea
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