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Final Boeing 747 Dreamlifter Enters Service  
User currently offlineProPilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 604 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13288 times:

Go Boeing!

Check this out

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1080

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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12954 times:

I saw one of these when i was landing in Charleston over christmas, these things are HUGE!

User currently offlineBoeEngr From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 321 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12884 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 1):
these things are HUGE!

And if you see one next to a 747-8, the Dreamlifter still looks huge, but with tiny engines...


User currently offlinewarpspeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12671 times:

I had the pleasure of seeing one these at PAE over the summer. Not the most elegant looking, but I'm sure the Dreamlifter gets the job done.


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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4787 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12525 times:
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won't they need more if the 2nd production line gets going??

User currently onlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12066 times:

I saw one of these while passing through TPE around December 20 - could this last one have been it?

User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11818 times:

I wish Boeing would paint a large unique id on the tail and the underbelly of each of the LCFs so that we spotters can easily tell them apart. It could just be 1, 2, 3 and 4. If anyone from Boeing is reading this thread, I hope you can pass the suggestion up the chain internally. For example, the Airbus Belugas have a large single-digit ordinal number on them.


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User currently offlineDrewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11683 times:

Quoting WestWing (Reply 6):
I wish Boeing would paint a large unique id on the tail and the underbelly of each of the LCFs so that we spotters can easily tell them apart.

Since there's only four, it's not hard to memorize.

#1 - 747BC
#2 - 780BA
#3 - 249BA
#4 - 718BA


User currently offlinemattcawby From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 208 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11599 times:

N718BA arrived at Everett from Taipei on February 9

http://paineairport.com/kpae2752.htm



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1949 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11490 times:
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Quoting warpspeed (Reply 3):
I had the pleasure of seeing one these at PAE over the summer. Not the most elegant looking, but I'm sure the Dreamlifter gets the job done.

I had the distinct pleasure of seeong one of these birds landing at the Paine Field facility last summer while I was parking the car at the Museun of Flight car park. I've also seen one at SNN on a refuelling stop. As someone said, not the most elegent but they are impressive sizewise and I'm sure they do what they are designed to do very well. Airbus have a similar looking but not as large transport aircraft that again is not going to win and beauty pagents but still looks impressive simply because of its size.



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User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 879 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11352 times:

Quoting trex8 (Reply 4):
won't they need more if the 2nd production line gets going??

Shouldn't need it for the current planned rate. I think Flightblogger worked out that the flying required for airframes assembled at the 2nd line was slightly less. Above 10/month more may be needed, but that would also have been the case if all 787s were assembled at Everett.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11053 times:

Quoting Drewski2112 (Reply 7):
Since there's only four, it's not hard to memorize.

#1 - 747BC
#2 - 780BA
#3 - 249BA
#4 - 718BA

But one is often not close enough to the aircraft to read the registration. Spotters would love an id that can be read from a distance and underneath an aircraft flying overhead. Boeing have put "747-8" on the underbelly of RC501 - so a similar size text for the LCF underbelly and tail but different for each aircraft say LCF-1, LCF-2, LCF-3, LCF-4 would be nice.

Here's what the Airbus Beluga does (note the 2 and 3). Airbus had unique numbers on their Super Guppies as well.

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User currently offlineChicagoflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

What is the call sign for these Dreamlifter flights ?

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2949 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9315 times:
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I wonder if they should offer a VIP version with a giant windows!


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9267 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 1):
I saw one of these when i was landing in Charleston over christmas, these things are HUGE!

  

In downtown Charleston a few weeks ago, I saw a Dreamlifter on approach, followed by a World 744, followed by a C-5 Galaxy on approach the other day. That's in addition to the usual assortment of C-17's on training missions.

When Boeing ramps up down there, CHS is going to be one heck of a place to spot...



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8521 times:
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Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 14):
What is the call sign for these Dreamlifter flights ?

Evergreen.
Evergreen International operates them for Boeing under an ACMI agreement.

(Edit: I suppose theoretically Boeing is supplying the A in this case.)

[Edited 2010-02-18 10:07:12]

User currently offlineprofcalvin From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

saw one in NGO this summer, and it was absolutly HUGE...

It would be nice if they gave it a bit more of an interesting color scheme/paint job though...


User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 13):
I wonder if they should offer a VIP version with a giant windows!

The whole back end of the thing (everything aft of the second hump) is unpressurized...even with giant windows, it wouldn't be a fun ride.

Tom.


User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4787 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6215 times:
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Quoting JohnClipper (Reply 5):
I saw one of these while passing through TPE around December 20 - could this last one have been it?

probably, they are manufactured there by a BR subsidiary


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4881 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6108 times:

Quoting trex8 (Reply 18):
probably, they are manufactured there by a BR subsidiary

Highly likely.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...al-dreamlifter-enters-service.html

Quote:
"The aircraft was delivered to the company's Everett, Washington facility on 9 February after a flight from Taipei, Taiwan where the former passenger-hauling 747-400 was modified by Evergreen Aviation Technologies.

The aircraft, which is registered N718BA, took off from Paine Field in Everett on 16 February as Evergreen Flight 5141 bound for McConnell Air Force Base in Wichita, Kansas to retrieve a composite Section 41 forward fuselage from Spirit Aerosystems."


At last, QUADIMODO is now a "quadruplet" in reality.  

[Edited 2010-02-18 19:34:06]


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User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

Quoting trex8 (Reply 18):
they are manufactured there by a BR subsidiary

The work is being carried out in Taiwan by Evergreen Aviation Technologies Corporation which is a joint venture of Evergreen Group's affiliate EVA Air and General Electric. No doubt labour costs played a major role in this.

Once Boeing is finished with these planes they will NOT be able to be on sold as they are for Boeing's use only as they are not certified as such. The planes are 20 years old as they are so I suspect no more than another 20 years ops for them



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5772 times:
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Quoting 7673mech (Reply 15):
Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 14):
What is the call sign for these Dreamlifter flights ?

Evergreen.

And just for further clarification - Evergreen International Airlines operates them.

No relation to Evergreen Group who owns EVA and modified the aircraft.
Strictly coincidence.


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