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BA 487 Emergency Landing At BCN.  
User currently offlineSpeedbird174 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12399 times:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bri...na_On_Way_To_London,_Strange_Smell

BA 487 returned to Barcelona after being airborne for just 20 minutes this evening, after the flight crew reported a 'strange' smell on the flight deck. It took off at 2025 local time.

Anybody have further information?
a/c type etc?

Regards Speedbird174.

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User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 12253 times:

No further info here, but I'd be willing to bet that its one of the 757's... They've been known for this to happen before.
(The BA ones at least)

Tom

[Edited 2010-02-18 17:15:27]


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11638 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12080 times:

That is the most sensationalised piece of crap I've ever read. It's no wonder that journalists are so widely disbelieved and held in such low esteem.


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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12070 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
That is the most sensationalised piece of crap I've ever read. It's no wonder that journalists are so widely disbelieved and held in such low esteem.

I agree. Very funny...."plunged into darkness"!!!!!!


User currently offlinespartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Quoting SirThomas (Reply 1):
No further info here, but I'd be willing to bet that its one of the 757's... They've been known for this to happen before.
(The BA ones at least)

Airbus A320.....



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User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11995 times:

Quoting spartanmjf (Reply 4):

I stand corrected...  

Tom



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User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11424 times:

EDIT: Apparently it was a G-CPEO,

http://avherald.com/h?article=4277db4a&opt=0

I was on a Madrid flight before when they had to urgently land. I think it was something to do with an oil leak and it wafting about in the air-con, but I could be wrong...



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User currently onlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11284 times:

Quoting SirThomas (Reply 6):
EDIT: Apparently it was a G-CPEO,

that sounds more like it.

IIRC the 757 fleet is used for all the Spannish flights from T3?


User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11081 times:

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 7):
IIRC the 757 fleet is used for all the Spannish flights from T3?

Mainly yes but they serve HEL too.


User currently offlineOffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10979 times:

Quoting BA174 (Reply 8):

and LIS



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User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10724 times:

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 3):
I agree. Very funny...."plunged into darkness"!!!!!!

Not really funny if this really happened. According to this article, http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100219/...kes-emergency-landing-3fd0ae9.html, all lighting did go out...
So what actually happened on BA 487?



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User currently offlineSirThomas From UK - England, joined Jul 2009, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10464 times:

On BA the lights are always switched off (or at least dimmed) when landing at night... maybe it was just scary because the crew didnt say anything about turning them off?

Tom



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9023 times:
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Quoting BigMac (Reply 10):

Not really funny if this really happened. According to this article, http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100219/...es-emergency-landing-3fd0ae9.html, all lighting did go out...
So what actually happened on BA 487?

Standard practice on many carriers to shut lighting off prior to take-off and landing.
It allows the eyes to adjust to outside conditions in case of an emergency evacuation.


User currently offlinerolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1807 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8402 times:

Here is my comment on that article, I hope they wont delete it:

I think it is an emergency procedure in some airlines to totally switch off all cabin lights early BEFORE landing, so that the eyes of the passengers will be accustomed to the darkness in the case of an emergency evacuation.
Of course, it also suits cheap journalists, who can use terms such as "plunged into darkness"



rolf
User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5126 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8308 times:

Quoting spartanmjf (Reply 4):
Airbus A320.....

Nope...... : British Airways Boeing 757-200, registration G-CPEO performing flight BA-487 from Barcelona,SP (Spain) to London Heathrow,EN (UK

Quoting SirThomas (Reply 1):
No further info here, but I'd be willing to bet that its one of the 757's... They've been known for this to happen before.
(The BA ones at least)

Yep, it was.


User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8450 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8213 times:
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Quoting rolfen (Reply 13):
I think it is an emergency procedure in some airlines

On the airline I fly most it is not an emergency procedure, it is standard procedure.

The unusual smell was probably the catering in the front galley. The crew are not used to food on board anymore.



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User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7919 times:

I know airlines dim the cabin before landing but if you read a comment from "someone" on the flight (who is aware that cabins are dimmed before landing), he believes it was not normal since the cabin lights were turned off 15 to 20 minutes before landing and the reading lights were also turned off. Maybe it was an emergency procedure? All I know is everyone who posted in this thread, including me, doesn't know what happened since we weren't on that flight. But then again, how trustworthy is that "someone" who was on that flight...


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User currently offlineScrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 7):
IIRC the 757 fleet is used for all the Spannish flights from T3?

not all Spanish flights are operated on the 757 out of T3..occasionally A320's are used too


User currently offlinesteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4989 times:

Quoting Richard28 (Reply 7):
IIRC the 757 fleet is used for all the Spannish flights from T3?

Mainly yes but they serve HEL too.

Quoting Scrappy27 (Reply 17):

not all Spanish flights are operated on the 757 out of T3..occasionally A320's are used too

As an aside, how many 757s are left in revenue service? I was driven home up the A30 last week, and saw four 757s parked up outside the hangars at the very eastern end of the airfield. At least two of them had been whited out.....and I can only assume all four of them were on their way.



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User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3998 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 18):
Mainly yes but they serve HEL too

Strange, you are the second person to say B757 go to HEL.
They stopped flying there end of Oct 09 and are not coming back.


User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3998 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 18):
As an aside, how many 757s are left in revenue service?

5 are left in service, PEM O R S T.
5 are WFU at LHR PEC D E I N
and one WFU and parked at LGW PEL.
They will finish flying in Oct this year.


User currently offlinesteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 19):
Quoting steve6666 (Reply 18):
Mainly yes but they serve HEL too

I didn't say that! Not sure what happened there to make it look like I did..........confused.....

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 20):
and one WFU and parked at LGW PEL.

What on earth is the poor thing doing on its own over there?

It will be a sad sad day when they depart. Just can't get excited about the prospect of a take off in an A320.



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User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

I didn't say that! Not sure what happened there to make it look like I did..........confused.....[/quote]

The same has been happening to me strange lol.

I stand corrected with the 757s no longer serving HEL. I knew that they had been last year. I wonder why they are keeping the 757s hanging around LHR/LGW now that they are wfu would somewere like CWL or PIK not be easier since their not going back to BA.

It's a shame these fairly young 757s are leaving BA. I can't beleive they only now have 6. I am quite young and even I remember when BA had 50odd 757s right up untill the early 00s.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

So, about that 'strange smell' in the cockpit... It make me think after a Dutch TV broadcast found out about similar issues on KLM lately. It seems to happen on B757 and BAe146 also...

Crew get toxicated by a bad fume, thought to come with the bleed air which is mixed by fumes of oil leakage in the engines. The toxic is a so called 'tricresylphosphate' or TCP. A remarkable amount of crew in the world seems to have a so called "Aero Toxic Syndrom" with reduced/loss of memory and brain activity, tingling of arms, legs, shoulders, body vibrations, being very tired and severe headaches.

The Dutch broadcast was mainly regarding the KLM incidents which happened lately, on the Fokker 70/100 fleet. One flight returned to LBA on 02Dec09 when crew got toxicated and dizzy, declaring emergency apparently (F100).
Three weeks later, also a F100 could not take passengers on a return flight from VCE, due to severe smells on board. 2 crew flew this bird back home by use of their oxygen masks.

On a sidenote of this television programm, it was mentioned that these issues are also known to happen on B757 and BAe146 aircraft, but airlines keep these problems quiet, and staff/crew/engineers are not allowed to speak openly about these issues.



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User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Quoting BA174 (Reply 22):
I wonder why they are keeping the 757s hanging around LHR/LGW now that they are wfu would somewere like CWL or PIK not be easier since their not going back to BA.

Firstly they won't park the aircraft at PIK as BA would be charged alot more of money to park the aircraft there. BA do have a maintance facility at GLA which is used for the servicing of BA's Airbus and Boeing 737 aircraft. There are no longer any 757 rated engineers at GLA.

They have not used CWL as CWL is BA's aircraft maintance facility for the 777 and 747 . Parking at the CWL facility is limited. As well as being used for major maintance on the 747/777 aircraft i.e aircraft c checks, CWL is also where the new First cabin will be fitted to all BA's 747 and 777 aircraft. CWL will also be used later this year to fit the new Thales IFE system to the new 773ER's and the 777's currently fitted with the g-mis IFE system.

At LGW BA own some hanger space that is currently not being used. Also BA have 757 and 767 rated engineers at LGW. BA used the hanger at LGW to fit the new IFE and seats to the 767 when they where embodied with the flat beds.

The remaining 757's are parked in BA's maintance facility at LHR. The facility covers a large area and has a number of stands that BA own. This is where the 757's will be parked up prior to going to FEDEX. BA dont need to pay the airport authority to park aircraft up in this area as it belongs to them. Then when the time comes for the a/c to go to fedex then 757 engineers at LHR can carry out the required checks before handing the aircraft over.


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