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Body Falls From MIA Bound Aircraft  
User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10676 posts, RR: 14
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15728 times:

Looks like the body fell out, shortly after takeoff of the Amerijet cargo flight from Santo Domingo on Thursday.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/f...rom-plane-20100219,0,2580039.story


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User currently offlineP0sitiveRate From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15439 times:

The article says the aircraft was an Amerijet 767....I thought they only operate 727's?


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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15247 times:

Quoting P0sitiveRate (Reply 1):
The article says the aircraft was an Amerijet 767....I thought they only operate 727's?

They have one 767-200F, which actually belongs to (and is in the colors of) ABX. This article has a picture of it:

http://www.wwlp.com/dpps/news/intern...ing-dominican-republic-jgr_3244635


User currently offlineP0sitiveRate From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15201 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 2):
They have one 767-200F, which actually belongs to (and is in the colors of) ABX. This article has a picture of it:

http://www.wwlp.com/dpps/news/intern...44635

Ah, I didn't go to the pic/video.....is it actually crewed by Amerijet pilots? Or is it an ACMI?



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User currently offlinelegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14851 times:

RIP to the unlucky individual. These seem to be happening on a weekly basis.


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User currently offlineBEG2IAH From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 982 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14659 times:
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I read this on CNN yesterday. Every single comment was a joke about this poor soul. I guess people would react a bit differently had they seen the body.

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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14567 times:

The fact that they are still finding bodies in landing gear like this shows that despite the current economic climate, the talk of immigrants returning home and the black eye America's standing has taken in world affairs, the United States still is seen as the land of opportunity in many places.

User currently offlineTJM321 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 13669 times:

RIP to the victim.

The most unfortunate part of these cases is not so much, in my opinion, that the victims very often die, but that they do not know how small their chance of survival in this sort of escape method truly is.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13210 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 10507 times:

Once again, this raises significant questions of security at certain airports, of aircraft at certain airports and possibly mx procedures. While we don't yet know for sure how the body got into the wheel well, it is still a tragedy that needs to be properly investigated.

User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9143 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Once again, this raises significant questions of security at certain airports, of aircraft at certain airports and possibly mx procedures.

It does raise serious concerns about the access that desperate people have to A/C bound to International locations.

I wonder if statistics show that people who attempt this sort of thing usually work at the airports and have clearance?

I think a potential weakness in the security system worldwide is complacency about people who have been hired to work in secure areas. I think that the potential for an "inside job" much more sinister than simply seeking economic refugee status is quite likely.

Very sad that people in many parts of the world can be so desperate for hope that they put themselves in such peril. There's a lot of work to be done.



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User currently offlineN49WA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8753 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 10):
The fact that they are still finding bodies in landing gear like this shows that despite the current economic climate, the talk of immigrants returning home and the black eye America's standing has taken in world affairs, the United States still is seen as the land of opportunity in many places.

Excellent comment. I can barely imagine the desperation that would drive a person to do this. Poor guy. We have to remember that these are (mostly) uneducated third world people with no of understanding of pressurization, temperature etc. They just see is as a way to get to the USA and to them, with no understanding of the risks, it makes sense.

On a side note, I long for the day when at least one thread on this site does not erupt into a "mines bigger than yours" free for all. Every single a.net member has something to contribute. If we disagree, can't we do it respectfully? This is not some neighborhood bar. Just my humble opinion and quiet rant.


User currently offlineplatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

ANY death in the aviation industry is unfortunate, my heart goes out to the victims family and friends. This once more highlights the topic of security, and as a former ramper the need to asure a walkaround check before departure. Aviation has always focused on safety, I hope Amerijet learns from this mistake.


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User currently offlineacabgd From Serbia, joined Jul 2005, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6723 times:

Besides the obivous tragic involved with such a death (RIP), I'm way more worried about security implications. This unfortunate (and pretty stupid) guy might also have been someone with Al-Qaida links, planted the bomb inside the wheel well and simply left.

That's way more scaring than anything in this thread!



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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6423 times:
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Certainly it's a sad thing when people take measures like this to get away from a bad situation/life. But, I feel more sorry for his family than him. Any sane person must realize that it's severely dangerous to climb into a wheel well, regardless of your knowledge about pressurisation or oxygen and temp levels. If you have ever seen a plane take off you know those doors are open for a good while after take off, and that an aircraft travels at high speed.
I care more about the situation for those people who have to deal with the mess of picking up the remains.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Could the a/c in question be one of the former DL 762s? Also, i know i've seen pictures of the flight deck being updated to a modified LCD panel from the normal suite foubd on 762s/3s and 757s.


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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Once again, this raises significant questions of security at certain airports, of aircraft at certain airports and possibly mx procedures
Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 18):
It does raise serious concerns about the access that desperate people have to A/C bound to International locations.

I don't necessarily think it does in relation to certain airports......but rather to all airports. One must note the recent discovery of a body on a DL aircraft which came from the US. So it certainly applies to all airports there, as well as other locations such as Santo Domingo.


User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1190 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 30):
I don't necessarily think it does in relation to certain airports......but rather to all airports. One must note the recent discovery of a body on a DL aircraft which came from the US. So it certainly applies to all airports there, as well as other locations such as Santo Domingo.

Was it determined where the deceased origionated from in the DL case?


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting CokePopper (Reply 31):
Was it determined where the deceased origionated from in the DL case?

At this stage, I don't rightly know to be honest and hadn't heard yet.


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Quoting CokePopper (Reply 31):
Was it determined where the deceased origionated from in the DL case?
Quoting AirNZ (Reply 32):
At this stage, I don't rightly know to be honest and hadn't heard yet.

I had heard Lagos, but that could be incorrect.


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