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AA: New LAX-RNO ERJ Service  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32785 posts, RR: 72
Posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9734 times:

American Eagle will launch new thrice-daily Los Angeles-Reno ERJ service on June 10th, the first of what will likely be a handful of new domestic routes launching on that date.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Americ...es-prnews-1021584081.html?x=0&.v=1


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15744 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9724 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
American Eagle will launch new thrice-daily Los Angeles-Reno ERJ service on June 10th,

Three daily seems like a lot to start a new service, especially where WN already offers that many flights per day. Are they replacing something?



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User currently offlineflyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1878 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9684 times:

Does united express operate this route as well? In the past QX has fed AA RNO-LAX connections. Flights always seem full. The AMR RNO commuters will like them, there are a lot of them!

User currently offlineDLMD90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9684 times:

Any news on the other new domestic routes?

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5957 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9666 times:

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 2):
Does united express operate this route as well?

Yup just one daily 50 seat RJ everything else is routed via SFO.



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User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1071 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

They also added two daily Eagle ERJ's on the LAX-DEN route alongside the two daily mainline flights for a total of 4x daily in the market.


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User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

I think it's about time that AA expands out of LAX like this. The question is, when are we going to see cities like PHX, SMF, TUS, SLC, etc.?

[Edited 2010-02-22 11:19:30]

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32785 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 5 hours ago) and read 9536 times:

Quoting crosswinds21 (Reply 6):
I think it's about time that AA expands out of LAX like this. The question is, when are we going to see cities like PHX, SMF, TUS, SLC, etc

I have been hearing tumors of PHX and SMF.

Does AA have more terminal space for Eagle now that it is in the "new" (old UA) facility?



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User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9460 times:

That's crazy.. putting ERJ's up against low yielding WN strongholds, yet they yank good , solid O and D markets ouf of STL...Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecintg different results!

User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11636 posts, RR: 61
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9440 times:

With the aircraft schedule indicating an RON at LAX, not RNO, looks like the flights are timed well for connections from the Hawaii redeyes, and to eastbound LAX redeyes. Good to see AA adding at LAX (along with the 2x to DEN), I guess, but ...

Quoting crosswinds21 (Reply 6):
I think it's about time that AA expands out of LAX like this. The question is, when are we going to see cities like PHX, SMF, TUS, SLC, etc.?

Exactly my question.

RNO seems to me to be a waste - AA already serves the market from DFW/ORD, it's already codeshared with QX, and it is relatively low-yielding (lower-cost competition from WN).

I would much rather see some EMBs put in more "strategic" markets to fill key AA/oneworld gaps out of LAX like:

5x PHX
4x SMF
4x OAK
2x ABQ
2x TUS


User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
I have been hearing tumors of PHX and SMF.

Well that's good. Despite the fact that PHX-LAX is already well served, I still think that's it's a big hole in AA's network simply because of the connection opportunities at LAX. However, for someone that lives in TUS though, I REALLY hope they start TUS service soon - even twice daily via AE would be something. For one thing, there's just too much business travel here where I work (AA is our preferred carrier) to places like Japan and Australia and people wind up having to book UA to fly to LAX and connect to AA or AA* from there.

Quoting RJNUT (Reply 8):
That's crazy.. putting ERJ's up against low yielding WN strongholds, yet they yank good , solid O and D markets ouf of STL...Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecintg different results!

I'm pretty sure that AA is not starting RNO-LAX for the O&D but rather for the connecting opportunities. Almost all RJ routes on major carriers are flown to shuttle people to hubs where they can connect to the more profitable mainline flights. STL is a different story altogether. The O&D may be sufficient but the yields were probably trash to the point where they couldn't compete with WN. Moreover, STL was used primarily as a hub it itself. However, since DFW and ORD are in close promiximity, there really is no point of having STL serve as an additional hub while decreasing yields.


User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9367 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 9):
RNO seems to me to be a waste - AA already serves the market from DFW/ORD, it's already codeshared with QX, and it is relatively low-yielding (lower-cost competition from WN)

I see your point, but I wonder how much this has to do with it:

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 2):
In the past QX has fed AA RNO-LAX connections. Flights always seem full. The AMR RNO commuters will like them, there are a lot of them!

Remember that way back when, AA absorbed Reno Air and was left with a number of Reno based employees. I flew this route on a 738 back in 2002, so there may be some residual AA affinities and/or employees to serve.

Cheers,
Dave in Orlando



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9318 times:

I just love reading the same type of PR BS airlines and folks yak about. Yeah I am sure 3 44 seat flights will really make a big difference in economy of Reno-Tahoe area. Half of those pax will prob come from the QX flights lol.
Won't be long until 3 flights goes to 2, then one, then eliminated altogether. Maybe April '11 if lucky. After one full ski season and AE/MQ sees loads not what they thought. Just guessing, but doesn't seem sustainable for them.
Maybe DL will build up LAX with 50 new RJ flights to RNO, BOI, GEG, PSC....lol. JK of course.

If Eagle were to try a real honest, in it for a long haul, then I wish them the best. If it is a in than out (as I think it will be), wish they wouldn't bother. Guess they will jump in a few routes, see if any do anything worthwhile, and dump the rest.



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32785 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9301 times:

Also looks like Eagle will add 2x daily ERJ on LAX-DEN that will compliment the existing 2x daily 738 service.


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9185 times:
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Does that mean QX may discontinue service on the RNO-LAX service?

User currently offlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Eagle will cut SBA-LAX from 7 to 6 and FAT-LAX from 6 to 5 RTs...

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25391 posts, RR: 49
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 9086 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
Does AA have more terminal space for Eagle now that it is in the "new" (old UA) facility?

No, the box is smaller.
As result AA also brought in adjacent trailers for offices.



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User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 9063 times:

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 15):
Eagle will cut SBA-LAX from 7 to 6 and FAT-LAX from 6 to 5 RTs...

The tiny intrastate network they have left (LAX to MRY, FAT, SAN, SJC, and SBA) is not sustainable, especially when folks in FAT, SJC, and SAN have direct access to AA hubs at DFW, ORD, and JFK. I think the saving grace for the operation has been the new routes to New Mexico (SAF/ROW), and AA is probably looking to introduce several more longer routes that can justify the Eagle base at LAX that would otherwise become unnecessary.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
Three daily seems like a lot to start a new service, especially where WN already offers that many flights per day. Are they replacing something?

WN dominates this market today, but remember, it wasn't long ago when AA mainline was plying this route (holdover from the Reno Air takeover). Not much you can cut from the barebones DFW/ORD operation at RNO...

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 2):
Does united express operate this route as well? In the past QX has fed AA RNO-LAX connections. Flights always seem full. The AMR RNO commuters will like them, there are a lot of them!

Yes, you have WN, QX (which could well be dropped now), and UAX. RNO is a very popular getaway from SoCal though, filling the planes won't be a problem.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
I have been hearing tumors of PHX and SMF.

Hmmm. UA can barely make LAX-PHX work as it is. AA has no chance to hold up against US and WN.



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User currently offlineMacsog6 From Singapore, joined Jan 2010, 531 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 8988 times:
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As someone who frequently takes QX down to LAX, I welcome the AA jets to RNO market. It's not like the days of QQ, but at least I know have an option if I want to go west.

With AA doing this, I wish QX would drop LAX altogether and switch their service to SFO so as to create some competition between RNO-SFO. I take LH from SFO-FRA and then onto BLR and the fare on the RNO-SFO leg almost matches the other two legs. WN goes to OAK, but getting from OAK to SFO is a genuine PITA via BART (you are bussed from the airport to the BART station, and then have to generally switch trains) or an expensive taxi ride.

I do agree that the economics of this may be a bit suspect, but I have not been an a QX flight either way that was not virtually full.



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User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1734 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 8865 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Also looks like Eagle will add 2x daily ERJ on LAX-DEN that will compliment the existing 2x daily 738 service.

It wasn't too long ago that AA ran 4x mainline DEN-LAX. Most recently it was 3x mainline. So essentially AA is downgrading its DEN-LAX runs but still trying to maintain a presence at all key travel times during the day.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32785 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 8851 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 17):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
I have been hearing tumors of PHX and SMF.

Hmmm. UA can barely make LAX-PHX work as it is. AA has no chance to hold up against US and WN.
AA will likely add it to feed Cathay China Eastern, JAL and Qantas.

RNO is definitely an odd candidate, IMO, but we are going to see AA develop LAX into a much stronger hub operation - something it has already made clear - and feed from west coast markets is going to become increasingly important.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 17):
The tiny intrastate network they have left (LAX to MRY, FAT, SAN, SJC, and SBA) is not sustainable, especially when folks in FAT, SJC, and SAN have direct access to AA hubs at DFW, ORD, and JFK.

If it was really so unsustainable, then why was it just not canned when the Saabs were parked?

The markets provide important feed to the East Coast and OW's LAX Asia operations. Are AA and OW going to ignore SJC/SAN-Asia? I don't think so.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 17):
I think the saving grace for the operation has been the new routes to New Mexico (SAF/ROW),

Those routes exist more to bridge ERJs between Los Angeles and Dallas than anything else.

Quoting n7371f (Reply 19):
Most recently it was 3x mainline. So essentially AA is downgrading its DEN-LAX runs but still trying to maintain a presence at all key travel times during the day.

Which makes sense - the presence has always been primarily as a feeder. Denver-Los Angeles is highly competitive and I doubt that AA makes much money off the local market. There are a few fliers - myself included - that will take the AA flight, but most will stick to Southwest/United, for sure.

[Edited 2010-02-22 14:35:27]


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User currently offlinecrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 8835 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
RNO is definitely an odd candidate, IMO,

I can't help but wonder if the reason for adding RNO was that AA's codeshare bookings onto Horizon Air flights were/are very strong and so they decided that they might as well just fly their own metal there.


User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 8802 times:
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Quoting crosswinds21 (Reply 10):
Well that's good. Despite the fact that PHX-LAX is already well served, I still think that's it's a big hole in AA's network simply because of the connection opportunities at LAX. However, for someone that lives in TUS though, I REALLY hope they start TUS service soon - even twice daily via AE would be something. For one thing, there's just too much business travel here where I work (AA is our preferred carrier) to places like Japan and Australia and people wind up having to book UA to fly to LAX and connect to AA or AA* from there.

TUS is defintiely a busy AA elite station. A couple of AE flights would do well. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see if this was started, eventually one flight goes mainline along with the AE flight.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Also looks like Eagle will add 2x daily ERJ on LAX-DEN that will compliment the existing 2x daily 738 service.

There's so much service available on LAX-DEN now. Adding a couple of Eagle flights seems like overkill.


User currently offlinetan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 8767 times:

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Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 17):
The tiny intrastate network they have left (LAX to MRY, FAT, SAN, SJC, and SBA) is not sustainable, especially when folks in FAT, SJC, and SAN have direct access to AA hubs at DFW, ORD, and JF

I take issue with you here..as a frequent FAT customer I use the LAXconnection at other times for flights to ORD, JFK and BOS & MIA.. The DFW flights are great..but If I don't want to leave at 630 am or so, but not wait for the more limited and late connections from the afternoon MD 80 to DFW..I take it via LAx.. no, I BELIEVE LAX's EAGLE OPS PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE for AA in California.

Now if we would some day get 2 E-190 nonstops to ORD and a third RT to DFW like we had several summers ago..then maybe you would have a point..but even then we would not have access to the Red-eyes out of LAX, nor the Hawaii flights.


User currently offlinephllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 8644 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 14):
Does that mean QX may discontinue service on the RNO-LAX service?

If you're asking because of comparing the Q400 to the ERJ and 737, probably not. All 3 (UA, WN and QX) clock in at just over an hour. Also remember that QX still has the DL codeshare.


25 commavia : Yep - exactly. The amount of people that QF and CX alone funnel onto AA flights out of LAX is massive. I don't remember hearing that officially from
26 laca773 : Ideally, how many more LAX-PHX-LAX flights can this market take? Three ERJs for the OW connection flights from JL, QF, CX?
27 WhatUsaid : Eagle is critical to FAT. DFW isn't the sole answer and the 2X daily cannot handle all of the pax that AA handles in Fresno. I'm not sure that I can
28 Wedgetail737 : AA flew OAK-LAX twice...once with the absorption of OC and again with the absorption of QQ. The Eagle flew the route briefly with ERJ's. I don't thin
29 cws818 : Have the Eagle operations already moved over to "the box"?
30 Wedgetail737 : If QX discontinues the RNO-LAX route, maybe they'll open a new city like SCK or MRY...just hoping.
31 LambertMan : From what I gather St. Louis was phased out not because of its performance in a vacuum but because of other opportunities available. I believe O'Hare
32 qqflyboy : When I pulled up the schedule in SABRE it shows both MQ flights and QX flights, so, for now, the codeshare continues. From a nostalgia point of view (
33 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : IMHO I think eagle could do really well on cos lax. Fares are much higher than ultra competative den lax and rjs are perfect for cos lax
34 AAtakeMeAway : Wasn't ELP supposed to be the MQ "bridge" between LAX and DFW... back when they made that huge announcement that included the closure of the STL hub?
35 commavia : Yes. When the EMBs first went out to LAX, and for a while, ABQ was the bridge. Eagle added 1 flight per day leaving DFW earlier in the morning that f
36 mah4546 : It actually did launch. There is even a trip report on it, here, but it was short-lived. But it isn't isolated. As you mentioned, there is ROW and SA
37 ElmoTheHobo : Mainline flew LAX-COS for a few years, but IINM United Express operates the route already, I can't imagine the market is big enough to support both o
38 Byrdluvs747 : PHX-LAX would be the one route that says AA is serious about establishing a western network.
39 Post contains images CGKings317 : On another thread I am a part of, there are rumours of a LAX-PDX link on Eagle. Is this a real possibility or is it just a product of Rumour Mills In
40 commavia : Agree 100%. LAX-PHX is, in my view, the single largest hole in AA's network west of DFW. PHX is a humongous population center, and the fact that AA/o
41 biggsfo : UA is all RJs between LAX and PDX now. But I agree - I don't AA launching any LAX-PacNW services as long as they can code share with AS.
42 USAirALB : Bring back BDL-LAX!
43 Post contains images aaway : I'd been reluctant to post these as rumors since my mole is a newbie. Now I think I'll beg and plead for more, MORE!!! Six (what would be considered)
44 Byrdluvs747 : "When" as in when US folds or when AA gets their costs under control? I don't understand what they're waiting for.
45 Post contains images commavia : I don't think AA could support that today. Their standing in the BDL market has diminished so dramatically since then. Now, if AA were to hypothetica
46 FATFlyer : The SCASD grant application from SBP had QX to SMF and then onward to either SEA or PDX as one of its targets. Additionally SBP has hopes that QX wou
47 Cubsrule : I don't know that it's that much lower. STL/RDU were there for those cities, not so much for BDL (RDU-BDL was a route I could never figure out - astr
48 ridgid727 : While AA has a fairly nice presence Eastbound out of SLC, there is nothing West, not even AS or QX... Im surprised they do not run something from SLC
49 commavia : They'd never survive up against Delta and Southwest. With 5 MD80s to DFW and a few MD80s/CR7s to Chicago, do they really?
50 Post contains images Byrdluvs747 : Quite frankly, I'm surprised we haven't heard from a certain someone posting how AA will never succeed in the west because of the awesome power of DL'
51 laca773 : ORD-SLC will be going all CR7s soon.
52 WA707atMSP : I'm REALLY surprised we haven't heard that "DL will succeed at building LAX into a mega-hub, and will run AA out of town"...
53 tan flyr : Really? I would think that keeping some MD-80s to ORD helps with the mainline vs eagle scope clause. So, just wondering ..is this a rumor or more sub
54 ElmoTheHobo : It's been announced. American is going from 2x MD-80 to 3x CR7, which is actually a decrease in capacity (260 seats per day, each way to ~200 per day
55 biggsfo : Just another example of the aircraft-type "hole" in AA's fleet. A 100-seater would be perfect for SLC-ORD.
56 mah4546 : The interesting thing is that nobody will offer mainline on SLC-ORD anymore. Delta and United are already all-RJs. 3x CR7 will be closer to around 17
57 deltaL1011man : Starting June 10th DL goes 3x CR9 1x 320 on SLC-ORD.
58 ridgid727 : Really? How does United Survive on it then? They operate several CR7's SLC-LAX daily, and it's primarily feed to intra california, and Pacific.
59 commavia : Because AA does not = United, and because the route already has three airlines - United being one of them - and could not support four. In my opinion
60 laca773 : In fact how does UA survive on this route as it is now? How does their SLC-SFO service do? AA really does need a 100 seater. It would definitely fill
61 Post contains images commavia : If AA were to every try LAX-TUS these days - which I highly doubt, sadly - I think it would definitely be with Eagle RJs, not mainline. I personally
62 AAAL : Exciting news for LAX, and we should see some more in the next couple of months.! AA has a huge base in TUS; LAX-TUS could work with a kick-off, a mid
63 crosswinds21 : So I was looking on aa.com, and I noticed something very interesting on LAX-RNO. Searching for flights on this route, I see that AA sells the QX codes
64 ridgid727 : commavia- How does SLC-DEN support 4 carriers?
65 jetlanta : I'm not WT, but I do find it interesting that the party line of this thread seems to be that building up regional, or even hub, operations at LAX is
66 mah4546 : Why does AS fly SEA-ORD? DFW-SEA? ATL-SEA? Alaska Airlines and American Airlines are currently in the process of creating a stronger alliance that wi
67 aaway : That issue has already manifested itself. The CO Connection contract is gone, The NW contract, gone. DL has ceased codesharing on AE's LAX-SAN flight
68 Commavia : I doubt that it does - profitably. And on SLC-LAX, AA would never make money up against DL, UA and WN. Some would argue that AA does has at least as
69 jetlanta : With all due respect to many of the posters on here who I have a lot of respect for, including you Comm, most of this stuff will bleed. The limited o
70 jetlanta : Fair enough. I think my perception is that, through 60 some posts, I had seen none of the derision that was so evident when Delta/ExpressJet did basi
71 Commavia : Agree 100%. As I said - it's not as if these markets, even PHX, are going to be goldmines. Not at all. Indeed, they would likely lose money on a per-
72 jetlanta : Yeah, this is precisely what I was getting at. The thing is, the P&L's for say LAX-PHX will never look good, no matter what it is contributing to
73 Commavia : We are in complete agreement here. I think they will, plus remember, with JAL and BA soon to be antitrust-immunized partners in revenue-sharing joint
74 ocracoke : As told to me by several AS people, there are several stations out there where AS, currently ground handled by AA at an AA gate, will be switching ov
75 Commavia : Neither. It's a sign that AA sucks as a ground-handling agent near universally. AA used to handle a bunch of airlines at JFK. But then AA failed to a
76 jetlanta : You are going to be surprised by the data then: CY 2003 JFK-LAX ASM Share AA 44.0% DL 23.8% HP 1.4% UA 30.8% CY 2010 JFK-LAX ASM Share AA 36.3% B6 6.
77 Commavia : Interesting. I'd be interested to see the numbers if all the ancillary airports (EWR, ONT, SNA, BUR, LGB) were included, and the other key transcon m
78 mah4546 : What those numbers actually show is that AA has done an excellent job in maintaining market leadership in a market that has gone from three (I'm not
79 deltal1011man : I believe AS's CEO said in the Q4 call that AS/AA would be getting closer, alot like DL/AS. DL likely put in a lower bid.
80 mah4546 : Correct. The new AS/AA relationship is expected to virtually mirror the current AS/DL relationship.
81 BigGSFO : Apologies for off topic, but wow. VX has pulled ahead of UA.
82 Commavia : Good point - look at what UA lost. Which brings us to this: Yeah, wow. So for comparison, for this summer season: B6 has 14 flights/week, at 150 seat
83 United1 : Not surprising at all UA is not competing for ASMs on a P.S. route...UA is however the leader by quite a bit in Yield.
84 jetlanta : Quite true. They don't compete for leisure passengers in this market, so their averages are higher. VX and DL, however, both offer a very competitive
85 Byrdluvs747 : I know that AA has the SAG contract and some others between New york and LA. What contracts does UA hold in the same market? Also does the SAG contrac
86 United1 : Both airlines have quite a few contracts...NBC is one of UAs that I know of.
87 mah4546 : I believe UA lost NBC to AA last year, which was part of the programming switch to NBC onboard AA's flights. UA's major contract is Disney, which AA
88 Post contains links United1 : Don't know the airlines don't usually announce who has which contracts but your right in that AA has the bulk of the entertainment industry contracts
89 phllax : Regardless of which carrier is used, all actors traveling for production work being shot under a SAG contract are to be flown first class. Even a sho
90 F9Animal : They had a great thing going when they took over Reno Air. Why they dismantled everything still leaves me in complete confusion. See above! They had
91 Skedguy : Jet, in this case, I think your use of these seven-year capacity changes as a veiled judgment of overall market performance amounts to hyperbole. ASM
92 mah4546 : They do offer a competitive premium product, especially Virgin America (Delta not so much). But until they get the competitive contracts, it doesn't
93 BigGSFO : Once upon a blue moon several decades ago, I worked for TWA in passenger sales where we reviewed many, many contracts for the entertainment industry
94 Post contains images aaway : That portion of the AA operation quickly became untenable at AA's costs in the immediate post 9-11 aftermath (there've been many threads over the yea
95 travelin man : I think this is a very important point. One of the "advantages" for competitors at LAX is that WN is pretty effectively hemmed in at T1. WN has grown
96 Post contains images BigGSFO : VX just opened a crew base in LAX too however at the rate they are expanding, AA will be flying to Antarctica with A390s before they reach any sizabl
97 Post contains images laca773 : As well all know, they need to bring down their costs. We'll have to wait and see how DL will do with BizE on their JFK-LAX/SFO transcons and if they
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Phewww....AA Brings Back LAX-SJO Seasonal Service posted Sun Jul 9 2006 05:19:43 by BALAX
DL Starts New LGA-LAS And LGA-LAX Sat Only Service posted Thu Apr 13 2006 19:56:49 by Panamair
AA: New ORD-MBJ Service posted Thu Jul 17 2008 15:05:01 by MAH4546