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Does Pinnacle Still Operate CRJ-200 For DL?  
User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Per the Delta website, the CRJ-900 is the only type Pinnacle is operating for Delta Connection. I also was looking at an itinerary for April to AEX and it was ASA flying MEM-AEX with a CRJ (previously served by a Mesaba SF340). I know that Pinnacle seemed the logical "odd man out" with the NW merger. Is that already happening?

Cheers,
Dave in Orlando


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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

Pinnacle still operates CRJ-200s for DL through the merger. SWF-DTW is on Pinnacle CR2s.


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User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 1):
Pinnacle still operates CRJ-200s for DL through the merger. SWF-DTW is on Pinnacle CR2s.

That makes more sense. Probably just a result of ongoing website integration (or perhaps a portent of things to come). Any word on Pinnacle's future? I have a friend who's a CRJ FO for them.

Cheers,
Dave in Orlando



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User currently offlinecv640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

They have a contract till 2017 I believe. Until then they operate the -900's that they were flying for Delta and the 124 or so CRJ200s that they originally contracted with NWA. After that, who knows.

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12218 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4083 times:
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Actually, Pinnacle never operated the 200 for DL until after the merger. They operated the 200 only for NW and the 900 only for DL. Now, it's all DL  


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3194 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

9E is the largest CR2 operator for DLC


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

Starting in June, the 3 flights a day FSM-MEM, which are at present, Saabs, will be Pinnacle CRJ-200s.


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User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
9E is the largest CR2 operator for DLC

Well, that's what I thought. Odd that the website doesn't list them as an operator at all while Skywest, Comair, Mesaba and ASA are all listed as operating the type.

Thanks for all the responses.

Cheers,
Dave in Orlando



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting Logos (Reply 7):

Well, that's what I thought. Odd that the website doesn't list them as an operator at all while Skywest, Comair, Mesaba and ASA are all listed as operating the type.

Well, when you pull up a schedule on Delta.com, it does identify them as the operator.



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User currently offlineskyrat From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

Quoting Logos (Reply 7):
Well, that's what I thought. Odd that the website doesn't list them as an operator at all while Skywest, Comair, Mesaba and ASA are all listed as operating the type.

Sadly they still operate for DL Connection.



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User currently offlinepilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

They certainly do, I was on two this month.

User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1611 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting skyrat (Reply 9):
Sadly they still operate for DL Connection.

Sadly? What makes you say that?



Hey Swifty
User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 768 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Pinnacle has roughly 135 CRJ200's operating for Delta. Typically they are the best performing regional of the DC carriers as well (on-time %, completion..) and that's without cheating, all 9E CR2 have ACARS and many other DC 200's do not, allowing them to fudge their ontime numbers a bit.

User currently offlineskyrat From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 11):
Sadly? What makes you say that?

Just have had a few bad experiences with them.



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User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

unfortunately. Those of us how travel a LOT will sing praises the days that all CRJ-200's are gone.

Do the execs at the airlines really understand how much those particular aircraft are dislked by the frequent flyers?

I realise that they have a specific purpose, but having seen them on premium long routes (e.g. ATL -> YUL) really baffles me. I have NEVER heard a kind word after somebody disembarks from a flight of such length on a CRJ!



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 12):
all 9E CR2 have ACARS and many other DC 200's do not, allowing them to fudge their ontime numbers a bit.

DL's 727s and 737s had ACARS and we were still able to fudge the numbers.



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User currently offlineskyrat From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 12):
that's without cheating, all 9E CR2 have ACARS and many other DC 200's do not, allowing them to fudge their ontime numbers a bit.

Like who? Comair is only one I can think of that does not have ACARS among CRJ200 operators.



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User currently offlinecv640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Everyone fudges numbers. On the Saab it was very easy, we called them in. With ACARS, its a little tougher, but there are ways to do it.

User currently offlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 14):
unfortunately. Those of us how travel a LOT will sing praises the days that all CRJ-200's are gone.

As miserable as the CRJ-200s are...for many people the alternative would be a Dash-8 or some other small turbo prop...

For the short 1 hour BGM-DTW, ELM-DTW, ITH-DTW, ROC-DTW, SYR-DTW flights I've taken on them...they are fine...

Any longer than 1 hour is not fun...2+ hours is cruel and unusual punishment!


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7537 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 12):
Pinnacle has roughly 135 CRJ200's operating for Delta. Typically they are the best performing regional of the DC carriers as well (on-time %, completion..) and that's without cheating, all 9E CR2 have ACARS and many other DC 200's do not, allowing them to fudge their ontime numbers a bit.

Also helps when your operations are based out of hubs that are not delay-prone like DTW, MSP, and MEM.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
9E is the largest CR2 operator for DLC

Yes it is, and 9E is going to be a partner with DL for many years still. Their contract is just that with DL, a contract.

Quoting Burj (Reply 18):
As miserable as the CRJ-200s are...for many people the alternative would be a Dash-8 or some other small turbo prop...

For the short 1 hour BGM-DTW, ELM-DTW, ITH-DTW, ROC-DTW, SYR-DTW flights I've taken on them...they are fine...

CRJ's on those routes sure beat the alternative of no service at all. Really, a CRJ is not that bad for


User currently offlineBHMDiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

Pinnacle CR2's can't "fudge" the numbers sent in via ACARS. They are still on the WorldFlight system. There is only a handful of people within Pinnacle who can change the actual numbers and they are in MEM.

Coincidentially, Mesaba and Compass are re-starting WorldFlight today for releases and crew verifications.


User currently offlineCRJ200FAGuy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

The Delta website until last week listed Pinnacle as having CRJ 1000s.

User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4234 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3161 times:

Unrelated note, but a pinnacle CRJ operating the flight from DTW to ATW yesterday showed up on Flight Explorer as a Southwest Flight. I thought it was strange seeing Southwest with a CRJ from DTW, but I knew it was erroneous.

User currently offlineazjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3895 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Worldflight at Mesaba is only being turned back on for in-range messages via ACARS (at least that's what they're telling crews). Flight planning etc... has been done through sabre and access will still be from FTweb.

User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1611 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 23):
Worldflight at Mesaba is only being turned back on for in-range messages via ACARS (at least that's what they're telling crews).

Well, that's a relief. I know a lot of us PMNW people felt pretty out of the loop when CP and XJ dropped out of WorldFlight



Hey Swifty
25 azjubilee : We had all the other functions of ACARS, just not those that were linked to Worldflight. The remedy until a solution could be found was to call over t
26 KingAir200 : CP has always called in range over the radio also, and it generally works, as long as the arrival station has an assigned operations agent. Of course
27 azjubilee : There was a solution to the in-range problem that didn't involve Worldflight and it was being tested when the change over to Deltamatic occurred. I'm
28 airguardtn : Pinnacle has a CRJ 200 MX base here at TYS. Many ,but not all, of the CRJ 200 flights out of here are on Pinnacle. That's one reason TYS has no DL mai
29 Post contains images KaiGywer : You expect them to check ACARS messages if they aren't monitoring the radio?
30 SNCntry32 : It will be a lot better then printing over FTWeb. The whole relsase skips a page then prints another then skips then another etc etc etc... Dosent mi
31 cv640 : As for answering inranges, I always found it hit or miss. By radio or ACARs it never really mattered. We did have to have the tower page our rampers o
32 PSU.DTW.SCE : Back in my SCE days, we always monitored the radio for in-range calls. Then again we only had 3-4 flights a day so we never had more than 1 a/c on the
33 azjubilee : At least with an ACARS message we get a reply, with a gate assignment. Whereas an unanswered radio call, our parking place is a mystery. It doesn't re
34 kinglobjaw : They sure do. Just flew one of those MSP-GFK two weeks ago. -Kinglobjaw
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