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US Airways A330-200 On CLT-PHL Starting In May  
User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Just looking through the schedule and starting on May 10th flight 1522 from CLT-PHL is listed as a A332. For the return, PHL-CLT flight 1815 is a A330-200 also. I don't think their schedules are updated much past May because I don't see it starting in June yet. It's not easy to get a ride on a A330 domestically these days.

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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7516 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

My guess would be that what's listed is either a typo (A320-200 perhaps?) or the CLT-PHL flight then continues to Europe and vice-versa.


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User currently offlinedalca From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6868 times:

I think it is a positioning flight for aircraft flying out of CLT to Europe and aircraft coming into CLT. Otherwise the same aircraft could end up flying the same route time after time. I''m not sure if US is already flying the A332 out of CLT this summer.


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User currently offlineAirportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3608 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Seems to make some sense to me. CO used to, dont know that they still do, use a 767-200(?) between IAH and EWR.

Used to go out full all the time. Granted the NYC area might have had something to do with it.



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Quoting dalca (Reply 2):
I''m not sure if US is already flying the A332 out of CLT this summer.
CLT-CDG will be operated with an A332. It seems they rotate the -300s through FRA (and FCO when it starts), but it looks like they chose to do a hub run with the -200s. There will also be two 767s running PHL-CLT-PHL, so a total of 3 widebodies on that route this summer.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 1):
My guess would be that what's listed is either a typo (A320-200 perhaps?)

The flights show 258 seats available, so probably not.

[Edited 2010-02-24 11:25:07]


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7516 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6532 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 4):
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 1):
My guess would be that what's listed is either a typo (A320-200 perhaps?)

The flights show 258 seats available, so probably not.

A few things:

1. Thanks for the seat listing.

2. In my defense, I did mention the word guess.

3. Had you quoted my entire sentence, you would have seen and known that I had another possible (and seemingly more logical) answer.

Earlier post containing the entire sentence:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 1):
My guess would be that what's listed is either a typo (A320-200 perhaps?) or the CLT-PHL flight then continues to Europe and vice-versa.



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 5):
A few things:

1. Thanks for the seat listing.

2. In my defense, I did mention the word guess.

3. Had you quoted my entire sentence, you would have seen and known that I had another possible (and seemingly more logical) answer.

I did read the entire sentence. I was just responding to the first idea you proposed which was that it was a typo. By using the words "guess" and "either," I figured that you were looking to eliminate one of those two, hence my reply.



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User currently offlinethegman From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

It is a repositioning flight folks, not much to see here.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22863 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6415 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 4):
CLT-CDG will be operated with an A332. It seems they rotate the -300s through FRA (and FCO when it starts), but it looks like they chose to do a hub run with the -200s.

...and, indeed, as CLT-CDG is (for now) the only CLT 332 route, they'll either need to run the aircraft from PHL or bridge in CDG.

That said, this summer's CDG schedule seemingly would permit them to run the 332s PHL-CDG-CLT-CDG-PHL

PHL arrives 0755 and leaves at 1140
CLT arrives 0650 and leaves at 1115

Either inbound could fly either outbound from CDG.

Maybe they actually need the lift on CLT-PHL.



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User currently offlineAALuxuryLiner From United States of America, joined May 2008, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

I'm taking this flight in May. When I first booked, it was listed as an A319 and then a week later they moved the departure time up a bit and changed the aircraft to the A332. Never been on an A332 so I'm excited! They also upgauged my return flight PHL to CLT to a 767. Too bad my connecting flight PHL to LIS is still a 757. This will be my first 757 to Europe so I should wait to judge the comfort until I fly it.

User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6308 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
Maybe they actually need the lift on CLT-PHL.

I fly this city pair at least 40 times a year on average, and rarely is the load factor much less than 90% unless you're on the 5:30am PHL-CLT. There's a lot of O&D out of PHL that connects in CLT. They probably want the capacity, plus it should improve utilization of the 332 fleet. They may also be doing this to rotate 332's into CLT, where they've usually done much of the 333 maintenance.


User currently offlinerichiemo From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6019 times:

This is GREAT news. I'll find a reason to get to CLT, where I have business. The only way now you could get on a 330 within US (other than unshced positioning flight) would be to fly to Hawaii on Delta. This is a much better opportunity. Can't wait to sit behind those awesome wings.

User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
Maybe they actually need the lift on CLT-PHL.
Quoting thegman (Reply 7):
It is a repositioning flight folks, not much to see here.

Correct on both accounts. CLT-PHL is always extemely heavy. Running a widebody on at least one flight is not uncommon. Glad to see they are going to use an A332 on it. This is a very good way to have a spare Widebody in CLT should something go tech on one of the other TA flights. There was a time when we would have a 762 operate PHL-SJU and that bird would then run SJU-CLT to position a spare in CLT. Then again in the past- going back aways- the same would be done with a 762 either via MIA, MCO or TPA.

MD


User currently offlineSlcDeltaRUmd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

Does US operate any other domestic widebody service? By domestic i mean lower 48 states widebody service.

User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5626 times:

Quoting SlcDeltaRUmd11 (Reply 13):

Only between CLT and PHL at the moment. Over the holidays they were sending a 767 between CLT and MCO.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22863 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 12):
There was a time when we would have a 762 operate PHL-SJU and that bird would then run SJU-CLT to position a spare in CLT. Then again in the past- going back aways- the same would be done with a 762 either via MIA, MCO or TPA.

Although there's much less domestic widebody flying now than 5 or 10 years ago (anyone remember the PHL-PIT-MCO-CLT route toward the end of the PIT hub?), US' widebody utilization is still smaller than some of its peers, primarily because the Airbii basically do flights to and from Europe only. Carriers who use their widebodies for southbound, eastbound, and westbound flights can often get better utilization.



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User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 15):
Although there's much less domestic widebody flying now than 5 or 10 years ago (anyone remember the PHL-PIT-MCO-CLT route toward the end of the PIT hub?), US' widebody utilization is still smaller than some of its peers, primarily because the Airbii basically do flights to and from Europe only. Carriers who use their widebodies for southbound, eastbound, and westbound flights can often get better utilization.

US big problem was they cancelled the options for the 762 that PI had on order, which would have given them 24 if exercised IIRC. They were "widebody challenged" as I used to say. There just was not alot you could do with 12 762's, but they did pretty well considering they flew TA and then domestically split flying between the hubs and Florida / SJU and LAX / SFO.

MD


User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3401 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

One thing to consider about the widebodies on CLT-PHL-CLT is that they will be downgraded on a more frequent basis than most other flights. As soon as a 762 goes MX in PHL, the replacement aircraft will more than likely be one that was scheduled to operate to CLT.

CO does this on EWR-IAH-EWR. The 772 and 762 that fly the route are often subbed when an aircraft goes MX and they are needed on an international route.


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