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Emirates To Buy 10 Planes  
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1160 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 23184 times:

As said in an interview with the Chairman of Emirates, he is in talks with Airbus & Boeing to order 10 airplanes.

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZW...0To%20Abu%20Dhabi#ZW20100224000113

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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 23081 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
As said in an interview with the Chairman of Emirates, he is in talks with Airbus & Boeing to order 10 airplanes.

10? That doesn't sound like EK. Sure that's not 10,000?



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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 23033 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
10? That doesn't sound like EK. Sure that's not 10,000?

Hahahaha ,, i like that.
It seems that this order to fill a gap or short term strategey, don't forget that their A330s are old by EK standards


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4850 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 23010 times:

I would bet on it being for 10 Boeing 777-300ERs.

I read also sometime back that the order for 30 A 333s that EK placed a year or two ago was canceled by the carrier and that they will keep the A 332s in the fleet until the A 350s arrive. Is this correct?


User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 22956 times:
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what gap do they see a shortfall in?


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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 22476 times:

I knew it! 10 of the new DHC-6-400 twin otters on their way!  

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13529 posts, RR: 100
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months ago) and read 22288 times:
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Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):

10? That doesn't sound like EK.

Only ten for EK? Wow, the economy really is in the crapper.   

Seriously, in a fleet of 150, ten is noise.   

I'm surprised they are considering a small order for A330's or 777's. So much for A333's to replace the A332's...

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User currently offlinecosmofly From United States of America, joined May 2009, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months ago) and read 22176 times:

EK should by 10 748i. That will complete their collection of the biggest wide bodies.

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13529 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22153 times:
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Quoting cosmofly (Reply 7):
EK should by 10 748i. That will complete their collection of the biggest wide bodies.

Ten is enough for a subfleet (e.g., EK's A345 and A343 sub-fleets). However, the article quote was specific for A330's or 77W's. Boeing should at least try.  

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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 21912 times:

Quoting behramjee (Reply 3):
I read also sometime back that the order for 30 A 333s that EK placed a year or two ago was canceled by the carrier and that they will keep the A 332s in the fleet until the A 350s arrive. Is this correct?

If you're talking about the "order" that was announced at their first A380 delivery, that was a MoU that they signed agreeing a price if they decided to firm the order (which was for 30 A330s and 30 A350s IIRC) but it has been stateed here that they had one year to firm the order before this contract lasped and this is quite a while ago now.

I'm leaning towards this being for cargo birds as an order this small for Pax aircraft is likely to be a top-up and EK has thier hierarchy of planes well sorted out so wouldn't need to talk to both A and B.


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1019 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21466 times:

I think it would make perfect sense to get more of the smaller 332's or 333's. There are a lot of destinations in Europe/India where demand is not enough for EK's big planes.

QR are succesful building up routes with A319's and then change it later to larger equipment. EK could easily do that as well as they have a more well-known brand than QR.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21457 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
10? That doesn't sound like EK. Sure that's not 10,000?

No, it was probably for 10 additional different models. 727, A318, L-1011, Concorde and so on.


User currently offlinesydaircargo From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21457 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 10):
I'm leaning towards this being for cargo birds as an order this small for Pax aircraft

one of there cargo managers once told me they would like to send 777F on the DXB-SYD route. i would like to see that too. additional CARGO birds make sence.


User currently offlineeaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21269 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
As said in an interview with the Chairman of Emirates, he is in talks with Airbus & Boeing to order 10 airplanes.

Yeah I wonder if you are not missing a 0 i.e. 100 airplanes.  


User currently offlineVietcolin From Vietnam, joined Sep 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 20114 times:

Quoting cosmofly (Reply 7):
EK should by 10 748i. That will complete their collection of the biggest wide bodies.

Only you and me can own complete miniature aircraft collection. EK can't  



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User currently offlineaffirmative From France, joined Jul 2009, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 19208 times:

Well.. I read recently that the Al Maktoum international airport is on schedule to start operations on June 27 this year. The first ops will be cargo so I'd say an order for 10 77F or 748F or maybe 330F would be in line. They also reported an increase by 31% in cargo in January this year compared to last year..

Link to the article: http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...cc2d69f834c28b0b98d478f2e5ee5.aspx



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12957 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 18896 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
As said in an interview with the Chairman of Emirates, he is in talks with Airbus & Boeing to order 10 airplanes.

Nice. As usual, let's get A and B ready to make a deal.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 11):
No, it was probably for 10 additional different models. 727, A318, L-1011, Concorde and so on.

Boeing will restart the 757 line so that EK can have 10 factory-fresh aircraft.

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User currently offlinesydaircargo From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14941 times:

Quoting affirmative (Reply 15):
The first ops will be cargo so I'd say an order for 10 77F or 748F or maybe 330F would be in line

i opt for the 777F for there Cargo ops, since payload on the new A380´s is restricted for Cargo.
748 would be to big.


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5093 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14470 times:

Only 10?!!!! That's awfully small for EK standard!


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User currently offlineglideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13578 times:

10 77F.   


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31412 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13140 times:
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Emirates SkyCargo did place an order/LoI for 10 747-8Fs in July 2006 and 8 777 Freighters in November 2005, but to my knowledge all of those have been sold to Dubai Aerospace Enterprises and are being leased back as they are delivered from Boeing.

So would they really be in the market for new freighters via a direct purchase as opposed to additional leases?

[Edited 2010-02-25 09:23:38]

User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12624 times:

Better get cash up-front.  

User currently onlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12436 times:

Quoting glideslope (Reply 19):
10 77F.

Could they be about to convert their 748iFs to 77Fs? If they're not getting 748is, as was expected when they ordered their 748Fs, then why have an extra type? The 77Fs would probably do the job just as well. What is the capacity difference between the two types?


User currently offlineramzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12227 times:

Could this order be more about telling the world EK is doing fine (whether true or not) than needing 10 new aircraft? After all, 10 is really peanuts for EK and their traffic can't possibly be growing faster than their fleet is.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31412 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12064 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 22):
Could they be about to convert their 748iFs to 77Fs? If they're not getting 748is, as was expected when they ordered their 748Fs, then why have an extra type?

Because they have a leased 747-400F fleet that eventually needs to be replaced?


25 B777LRF : RB - Rumours Bureau. Aerospatiale today announced they've had a rummage through their old files, in the process of which Monsieur Propellour head of A
26 Post contains images ea772lr : Good stuff. I hope EK goes for 10 748 . Or maybe they'll order 10 789 to replace the 343s...with more to follow later...
27 Wingman : I say that the reason it's just a paltry 10 frames is because this a new launch aircraft from the Axis of Capaxis: an Antonov 225 with an A380-900 fus
28 keesje : If it'' s cargo I won't rule out the A332F.
29 ikramerica : I was thinking of that one too. 10 frames sounds like a cargo order.
30 tpa36r : Not relevant but FedEx had a once over the A332F this week while she was in MEM.
31 ikramerica : Nope, not relevant at all.
32 Stitch : I was kind of thinking the same. Emirates SkyCargo retired all of their A310-300s last year, so their current fleet is only 747 and 777 freighters. T
33 Post contains images glideslope : Not relevant. She was picking up the new APU Fuel Dump valves for the AF Whale at JFK.
34 rolfen : Maybe a change of strategy to show a more conservative mood after the crisis.
35 KissK : a380 to bridge the gap!
36 Stitch : What gap?
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