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Old LAX Spotting Area On The Hill?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3581 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

I was watching a cockpit view, of a 747 landing at LAX on You Tube, and it was stated in one of the replys, that their used to be a parking lot on the hill in front of LAX, where you could watch jumbo climing over your head. This spotting area was close down in the early 80's. Do any body here knows about this parking area?

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User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

The area you speak about must be the old neighborhood that was razed when the airport was built. The streets are still there, sans the houses. It is entirely fenced, you can't go in there. You can sit along the outside of the fence on PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) and watch the take offs or landings during eastbound landings.

Pershing drive is the closest to the end of the runways, but this road is a heavily enforced no parking or stopping area. PCH is the best bet if you want planes landing or taking off right overhead.

On the frontage road on Imperial Avenue, there is a hill with a good vantage point of the south 2 runway (25L & 25R) ops, there is parking and benches there.

[Edited 2010-02-25 19:55:36]

User currently offlinekparke777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2995 times:
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It was a fantastic plane spotting area until it was fenced off. You could sit up there and not be run by the police. TWA 760, a 741 which flew daily from LAX to LHR was my favorite. Most of the time it took all of 24L to lift and went over the hill so close. What a site! Landings on 6R every night after 2330 or so were a blast too.

User currently offlineplatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
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It was my favorite spot as a kid as well, salt in my hair after a day at the beach, a double double in my hand, planes taking off over my head... oh what times  


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User currently offlineflynlr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

I used to park there for hours in the early 80's ,, it seems a bit later on, the perverts,hookers,druggies and other malcontents started using that street for their purposes and legit spotters where run off with the crazy folks.


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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

I did a youth program run by LAWA, and they took us on the hill... very interesting. Sidewalks, roads, everything was there, but no houses. Great spotting location....


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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2221 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Quoting timpdx (Reply 1):
The area you speak about must be the old neighborhood that was razed when the airport was built. The streets are still there, sans the houses.

Homes were still in this neighborhood until the early 1970s. The Nov 15, 1971 issue of Aviation Week says "about 67% of the homes directly west of the airport have been purchased by the airport and will be demolished".

A copy of this magazine shows up on Ebay about once a year, and is definitely worth buying if you are interested in the problems LAX has had due to jet noise. In 1954, homes were being built across the street from the northern perimeter of LAX. The airport put up a sign warning prospective home buyers about the airport's expansion plans. The developers of the houses sued to force LAX to take the sign down. Less than fifteen years later, LAX was forced to buy the homes and tear them down, because jet noise had made them almost unlivable. The magazine article has a picture of the homes under construction, with the sign in the background.



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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2092 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 6):
Homes were still in this neighborhood until the early 1970s.
Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 5):
I did a youth program run by LAWA, and they took us on the hill... very interesting. Sidewalks, roads, everything was there, but no houses.

A friend's grandmother lived on that hill, on Kilgore St, from the 1940s to the 1960s when LAWA bought their house. She raised my friend's mother up there for 10 years. Grandma ended up moving just up the way to Westchester, where she still lives today. It's really a prime chunk of beachfront real estate, despite the planes going overhead 24/7. The area is known as Palisades del Rey. I've also heard it referred to as Surfridge, but my friend's grandmother (and her mother) call it Palisades del Rey.

Anyway, here's a great website with some photos of the place and a piece written in the LA Times: http://www.lakata.org/arch/surfridge/

Some more photos (someone got past the fence) http://peteofthestreet.net/gallery/MysteryNeighborhood

Photos of the place before it was torn down: http://faculty.ucr.edu/~divola/WEB%2...rs/LAX%20Ext.%20Hi%20Res/index.htm

And one final link from the CA Costal Records folks that show the houses still there in the 1970s. You can step north/south and get a view of the whole area. Another cool thing is to step forward and see how the area has progressed through the years. http://www.californiacoastline.org/c...&mode=sequential&flags=1&year=1972

[Edited 2010-02-28 11:02:46]

[Edited 2010-02-28 11:08:33]

User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2137 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 7):
Anyway, here's a great website with some photos of the place and a piece written in the LA Times: http://www.lakata.org/arch/surfridge/

Some more photos (someone got past the fence) http://peteofthestreet.net/gallery/MysteryNeighborhood

Photos of the place before it was torn down: LAX%20Ext.%20Hi%20Res/index.htm" target="_blank">http://faculty.ucr.edu/~divola/WEB%2...rs/LAX%20Ext.%20Hi%20Res/index.htm

And one final link from the CA Costal Records folks that show the houses still there in the 1970s. You can step north/south and get a view of the whole area. Another cool thing is to step forward and see how the area has progressed through the years. http://www.californiacoastline.org/c...=1972

Now THAT is a quality post! Thanks for the wonderful material, Chris.. I've always wondered about this place each time I visit LAX to spot (or depart/takeoff with a window seat).  



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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3581 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Quoting kparke777 (Reply 2):
It was a fantastic plane spotting area until it was fenced off. You could sit up there and not be run by the police. TWA 760, a 741 which flew daily from LAX to LHR was my favorite. Most of the time it took all of 24L to lift and went over the hill so close. What a site! Landings on 6R every night after 2330 or so were a blast too.

This almost as good as when NZ 742s used to fly from LAX to AKL non stop. They would use almost all of 25R, and it take them until around the AA hanger to climb. Also it look like they took forever to climb to normal height.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25056 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
spotting area was close down in the early 80's.

The over the hills spotting streets name is East Sandpiper and it was actualy open till 9/11

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&so...&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CAsQ8gEwAA



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