rbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 22992 times:
I feel cheated...I am never treated to a free-for-all in the galley before the flight.
tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2297 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 22689 times:
Highflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 22376 times:
And that is what passes for regional jet flying in America today, two flight attendants who think they're participants in a Roller Derby cat-fight. Interestingly the reporter mentions it was a "Delta" captain who returned to the gate, failing to mention that the CRJ900 was crewed by Pinnacle Airlines operating as a Delta connection.
trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 22286 times:
Apparently there were people on board with non-refundable cruise tickets. Me thinks they just became refundable via Delta. If it is the case that the FA's decided that their place of work was the appropriate place to duke it out, hopefully they get a pink slip.
LRDC9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 21884 times:
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 4): And that is what passes for regional jet flying in America today, two flight attendants who think they're participants in a Roller Derby cat-fight. Interestingly the reporter mentions it was a "Delta" captain who returned to the gate, failing to mention that the CRJ900 was crewed by Pinnacle Airlines operating as a Delta connection.
Umm over generalization much? Most airlines (yes even the "loathed" regional) employees are dedicated and professional. If anything, I have met more motivated friendly F/As on regionals than mainline. So just saying . . .
Plus Pinnacle flies exclusively for Delta, so it is operationally limited to that brand anyway.
Crosscheck007 From Poland, joined Jan 2010, 278 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 20184 times:
Wow, this is a naughty no-no... I don't care if she stole your Jimmy Choos, slept with your boyfriend, AND stole the last good treadmill at the gym; you don't let this affect the customers. Just smile, laugh, and know that her bad juju will catch up with her. Totally unacceptable to let it get to this point!
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19900 times:
I'm surprised that none of the FA's were arrested for crew interference!
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TeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23 Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19844 times:
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 4): Interestingly the reporter mentions it was a "Delta" captain who returned to the gate, failing to mention that the CRJ900 was crewed by Pinnacle Airlines operating as a Delta connection.
The general public makes no such distinction. When you buy the ticket it says "Delta" not "Pinnacle"*...so if there is problem with a regional, it becomes Delta's problem.
* may be stated in the small print somewhere, of course.
IAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19845 times:
Not that it makes it much better but the altercation was NOT physical. The representative said it was not physical and the passenger who were making those allegations were repeating hearsay none of them actually witnessed anything. If they had witnessed something you can guaranty they would be talking details not saying stuff like "apparently there was a fist fight"
DashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1314 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19586 times:
tfmd80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 8 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18123 times:
Quoting Crosscheck007 (Reply 8): Just smile, laugh, and know that her bad juju will catch up with her. Totally unacceptable to let it get to this point!
I couldn't agree more! I don't understand how trained flight attendants could allow a confrontation to escalate to such an extent. I can't imagine looking up from my magazine only to see two flight attendants duking it out. Refund, anyone?
legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17596 times:
Now you know why the F/A's request that the cell phones and cameras stowed away. To keep the MMA fighting off of you tube.
soon7x7 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 2799 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 15463 times:
m11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1206 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 14907 times:
At least this happened on the ground and not in the air! I can just imagine what would have happened had there been an emergency on this flight. The F/As would probably have gotten into a fist fight over who got to operate the emergency exit doors. I'm joking of course!
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DashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1314 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 14236 times:
Quoting m11stephen (Reply 17): At least this happened on the ground and not in the air! I can just imagine what would have happened had there been an emergency on this flight. The F/As would probably have gotten into a fist fight over who got to operate the emergency exit doors. I'm joking of course!
...or they would have been scared shitless to the point of being no good to anyone.
thegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2273 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13867 times:
This is crazy! And m11stephen is right...imagine if it happened on board....
Quoting LRDC9 (Reply 6): I have met more motivated friendly F/As on regionals than mainline.
Me too....maybe because the legacies have old washed up FAs ....but now I avoid regionals as much as possible...
moose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13829 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 9): I'm surprised that none of the FA's were arrested for crew interference!
FlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13588 times:
Quoting trigged (Reply 5): Apparently there were people on board with non-refundable cruise tickets. Me thinks they just became refundable via Delta. If it is the case that the FA's decided that their place of work was the appropriate place to duke it out, hopefully they get a pink slip.
Hopefully Delta refunds the passengers for these passengers for their cruise as well as the ticket as well as a voucher for future travel (actually, the bill should be forwarded to Pinnacle but point is, the passengers deserve to be fully compensated and the F/As probably terminated.). Maybe they could take the reimbursement for the passengers out of the F/As paychecks.
Quoting m11stephen (Reply 17): At least this happened on the ground and not in the air! I can just imagine what would have happened had there been an emergency on this flight.
Well that's why I don't see why the news worded their story "The Captain kicked everyone off" (well, actually I can because the media are often a bunch of morons who don't fully check the facts themselves). But knowing that the F/As are there for safety and knowing that in an emergency these two clearly wouldn't be able to handle themselves, yet alone the other passengers, the Captain made the tough but right call not to operate the flight.
hamster From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 192 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13128 times:
What is the truth? Was there a fight or no? Were physical punches thrown or not? The quest for certainty remains unclear. Either way we look toward these people to get us out of a smoky jet in a mishap. It is not acceptable for these individuals who may play a role in saving lives and giving life/safety orders to be carrying on this way? If the fight was physical or verbal, it is an embarrassment for Delta and they should be terminated.
m11stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1206 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12938 times:
Quoting DashTrash (Reply 18): ...or they would have been scared shitless to the point of being no good to anyone.
Its obvious that these two F/As weren't professional and they probably didn't understand the responsibility that their jobs' entail.
Every once and a while I see an F/A that I doubt would be any good in an emergency. These two F/As fall into that category. Say what you want about the senior mamas but when it comes to emergencies they perform exceptionally well.
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25 flybyguy: I'm asking the question why weren't these two arrested on charges of flight interference? If two passengers were in the same altercation, you bet your
26 cschleic: Now you know why the F/A's request that the cell phones and cameras stowed away. To keep the Exactly, the crew authority thing can go too far. Kind of
27 TheCol: One of the pilots probably got really lucky the night before.
28 Maverick623: And the pilot should be commended for that. Presumably because none of the crew reported it as such. Over a verbal altercation at the gate? I hardly
29 2175301: Unfortunately, just getting reimbursed may not make the people whole. Vacation time often cannot be replaced; and the passangers may not be able to r
30 XFSUgimpLB41X: Yet another reason why outsourcing is a total waste of money and ruins a company's image and reputation.
31 LRDC9: May I repeat that this is hardly how everybody acts. That's a mighty broad brush your painting with buddy.
32 Crosscheck007: , , and ! And this also wouldn't be an issue if North American carriers would agree to fly their regional jets in-house and could agree on appropriat
33 doug_Or: DL pilots have CRJ 900 and EMB 190/5 pay scales in their contract. They'll do it. Delta just doesn't want [to pay them] them to.
34 luv2cattlecall: Really? So what about those NW pilots who got paid 6 figures..the ones who took a nap? Somehow that appears to be a much more serious offense to me.
35 Crosscheck007: I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have a source for this? I find this really interesting, as this is the first case I have heard of main
36 doug_Or: Delta jumpseater showed it to me 2 or 3 years ago. It was a .pdf on some kind of smart phone. ...So no, I don't have a good source for it. My memory
37 FlyDeltaJets87: That is an unfortunate but true reality. Most companies would (hopefully) be willing to work with the customer though, especially in this economy. I
38 CRJ200FAGuy: So apparently us regional folks are all scum and do a terrible job. Apparently, no one at the big airlines ever does anything wrong. I seem to remembe
39 DashTrash: Now you know why the F/A's request that the cell phones and cameras stowed away. To keep the Apples and oranges sir.... By the way, do you know what t
40 XFSUgimpLB41X: DL has payrates for the CRJ-900 and Embraer 190 and 195. ASA's payrates for the CRJ-900 actually top out higher than the ones that are in DL's contrac
41 Tradewinds: Totally unprofessional and unforgivable, but an indication of the state of things it is not. I agree that in general, I've found the regional F/As to
42 XFSUgimpLB41X: I believe you work for Pinnacle... I used to work there. You do know the usual term around there for when a passenger or employee gets royally screwe
43 m11stephen: I hope that they would perform their duties well but just because an F/A passes training does not mean they will perform well in an emergency. These
44 FlyDeltaJets87: I understand exactly what luv2cattlecall was saying and he was right. His point was this sort of stuff is not limited to the regional carriers. The N
45 Crosscheck007: Thanks for the info! Seems reasonable enough, but I am sure that there are other costs that (in DL's eyes) must make the operation by DL cost-prohibi
46 Crosscheck007: Only according to "them", lol. Just remember, we are the young, vibrant, resilient, attractive, (and flexible) ones that could outrun, outlift, and o
47 757luver: And I was on a Delta Connection flight today, but it was operated by Comair. I can't believe I missed it. Going to have to start making sure I get the
48 EWRkid1990: ...most non-flightaphiles don't care about the specific regional airline that was operating the flight...for a journalist it's not pertinent informat
49 AEroc: I work for MQ (American Eagle) in ROC..... I started work that day at 10am and the Delta tkt counter line was still out the door. I think this was the
52 hamster: I don't know how ticket agents do their job. I would last about 5 minutes in that job with people screaming and yelling at me. Hats off to those prof
53 FlyDeltaJets87: Perhaps not but it would still send a message to these two and to other employees. Basically don't give them their last paychecks and instead use the
54 Flaps: Apparently you have never worked on a farm.....or a honey wagon.
55 Macsog6: Perhaps this could be a new form of IFE?
56 soon7x7: Would loved to have seen that on a 'Hooters" flight!
57 XFSUgimpLB41X: Yay! The future of the industry at 12-14 bucks an hour!!!
58 exFWAOONW: Even on the farm, it comes down a CHUTE. I and others arn't sure what a shute is.
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