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Qantas - NS10 Schedule Changes  
User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 686 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7964 times:

Sydney-Christchurch

767-300 services cease with effect end April 2010. A new daily 737-800 service will commence Saturday 1 May.

SYD/CHC 0715L/1220L QF45 73H
CHC/SYD 1325L/1450L QF46 73H

Sydney-Auckland

Removal of all 767-300 flying, and introduction of further 737-800 services with effect Saturday 1 May.

SYD/AKL 0925L/1430L QF55 73H
AKL/SYD 1545L/1725L QF56 73H

SYD/AKL 1820L/2325L QF49 73H
AKL/SYD 0615L/0755L QF50 73H

Melbourne-Karratha

Introduction of a new once-weekly 737-800 service in May to compliment Qantas' existing Tuesday service from Brisbane to Karratha.

MEL/KTA 1100L/1405L QF993 73H
KTA/MEL 1010L/1615L QF994 73H

Sydney-Karratha

Introduction of a new once-weekly 737-800 service in June to compliment Qantas' existing Tuesday service from Brisbane to Karratha and the carrier's new service from Melbourne to Karratha commencing May.

SYD/KTA 0935L/1320L QF995 73H
KTA/SYD 0910L/1535L QF996 73H

Sydney-Tokyo

Effective July, introduction of 747-400s on six-weekly services. Wednesday departures from Sydney will be operated by A330-200s.

SYD/NRT 2145L/0630L+1 QF21 744 (excl WED)
NRT/SYD 2030L/0700L+1 QF21 744 (excl WED)

SYD/NRT 2145L/0640L+1 QF21 332 (WED only)
NRT/SYD 2030L/0720+1 QF21 332 (THU only)

Cheers

[Edited 2010-02-26 19:29:09]

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User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Where does this leave the 767s operating to internationally? Just HNL, CGK, MNL, NRT from PER. Fingers crossed the A330s freed up from the NRT are deployed somewhere else on the above routes or out of MEL would be nice. Are the 738s operating the tasman services going to be the Jetconnect ones with the upgraded product?

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4829 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
Fingers crossed the A330s freed up from the NRT are deployed somewhere else on the above routes or out of MEL would be nice. Are the 738s operating the tasman services going to be the Jetconnect ones with the upgraded product?

The A332 will be operating AKL-LAX-JFK in place of the 744 currently operating it and moving to NRT



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7653 times:

Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
Sydney-Tokyo

Effective July, introduction of 747-400s on six-weekly services. Wednesday departures from Sydney will be operated by A330-200s.

SYD/NRT 2145L/0630L+1 QF21 744 (excl WED)
NRT/SYD 2030L/0700L+1 QF21 744 (excl WED)

SYD/NRT 2145L/0640L+1 QF21 332 (WED only)
NRT/SYD 2030L/0720+1 QF21 332 (THU only)

Are these signs of JL possibly pulling out of the SYD-NRT route???

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
Are the 738s operating the tasman services going to be the Jetconnect ones with the upgraded product?

Certainly hope so... Pulling the B763 off the tasman you would hope they upgrade the product and not down grade...

EK413



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
Are the 738s operating the tasman services going to be the Jetconnect ones with the upgraded product?
Quoting EK413 (Reply 3):
Certainly hope so... Pulling the B763 off the tasman you would hope they upgrade the product and not down grade...

I don't think the Jetconnect 738s are arriving so early. On the QF timetable, it shows QF49/50 and 55/56 as operated by Qantas rather than Jetconnect so maybe they are just normal Aussie domestic 738s. They're definitely not getting 3 738s that quickly, surely. Strangely enough, I've skipped forward to July and these 2 flights revert to 763. Unless things haven't been changed for later on yet or something..



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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7387 times:

They do need to move the 330 to PER and operate the PER NRT, me and a friend flew NRT PER and it was a bit strange seeing such an old product on board.

User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 686 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7370 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 1):
Where does this leave the 767s operating to internationally? Just HNL, CGK, MNL, NRT from PER. Fingers crossed the A330s freed up from the NRT are deployed somewhere else on the above routes or out of MEL would be nice. Are the 738s operating the tasman services going to be the Jetconnect ones with the upgraded product?

BNE-MNL
SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL
PER-NRT
SYD-NOU

A330-300s operate SYD-CGK services.

I have heard A330-200s for BNE/PER is also on the cards.

Cheers


User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7291 times:

Thank you for the heads up. Does this mean we can expect retirement of another 767 or so soon? If so, would they be the ex BA type?


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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5238 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7107 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 7):
Thank you for the heads up. Does this mean we can expect retirement of another 767 or so soon? If so, would they be the ex BA type?

None of the BA 767's have been retired as they are still on lease agreements. It is only the original QF birds that have been sent to the graveyard.


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5651 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7057 times:

Quoting ANstar (Reply 8):
as they are still on lease agreements

Are you sure? I thought QF had purchased them from BA.

Gemuser



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4017 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7024 times:
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Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
The A332 will be operating AKL-LAX-JFK in place of the 744 currently operating it and moving to NRT

Are they making this downgauging the LAX-JFK segment to use a more economical a/c or the loads more in line with a 332?


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6986 times:

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 9):
Are you sure? I thought QF had purchased them from BA

Correct... The aircraft leases ran out 3 years ago and I believe QF purchased the aircraft...

EK413



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User currently offlineRobt760 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
The A332 will be operating AKL-LAX-JFK

Does this mean LAX-JFK and JFK-LAX will no longer offer F ?


User currently onlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5329 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 4):
Unless things haven't been changed for later on yet or something..

I think you will find things havn't been updated yet.

I wonder if this is the way it will stay. I presume the A332 for the LAX-JFK service will have to come from OZ somewhere, SYD I'd imagine as the International A332s all operate from there pretty much.

I thought I also heard that QF might increase the 762F service on the Tasman, I'd think Freight is the main reason the still run 763s on the Tasman.

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 12):
Does this mean LAX-JFK and JFK-LAX will no longer offer F ?
Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
Are they making this downgauging the LAX-JFK segment to use a more economical a/c or the loads more in line with a 332?

I'd say yes to both.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4829 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

Quoting laca773 (Reply 10):
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
The A332 will be operating AKL-LAX-JFK in place of the 744 currently operating it and moving to NRT

Are they making this downgauging the LAX-JFK segment to use a more economical a/c or the loads more in line with a 332?

Yes more economical aircraft. The loads are usually pretty light on this flight...its the freight that pays for it and I guess you don't need to pay for FAs for freight! The A332 holds a significant amount of freight when it doesn't need its tanks full like on this 5 hour flight.

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 12):
Does this mean LAX-JFK and JFK-LAX will no longer offer F ?

J only on A332(which BTW is MUCH MUCH better than domestic First offered by the USA airlines). However it is likely that the A332 will only be operating this flight 4x weekly, the other 3 days will still be 744 with F seats for now... remember that QF is removing F from many routes and aircraft... not sure if JFK will keep it.



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User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 718 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
Correct... The aircraft leases ran out 3 years ago and I believe QF purchased the aircraft...

Qantas did not purchase these aircraft. The leases were extended, however.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 15):
Qantas did not purchase these aircraft. The leases were extended, however.

Cheers...

Thankyou for the correction...

EK413



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User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4239 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 7):
Does this mean we can expect retirement of another 767 or so soon?

I understand they swapped a domestic 737 with the 767 flying the Tasman - so the 767 is still flying albeit domestically.



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User currently offlineairnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 17):
I understand they swapped a domestic 737 with the 767 flying the Tasman - so the 767 is still flying albeit domestically.

Correct. These will be the next birds to get retired except OGT

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
I thought I also heard that QF might increase the 762F service on the Tasman, I'd think Freight is the main reason the still run 763s on the Tasman.

Not sure about increases, but QF50 AKL-SYD carries the most freight between AKL-SYD. Thats what was paying for the service as loads were often quite light.

Quoting QF175 (Reply 6):

BNE-MNL
SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL
PER-NRT
SYD-NOU

A330-300s operate SYD-CGK services

The schedule was (emphasis on was)...

MNL - March 2010.
HNL - March 2010
PER-NRT - March 2010
NOU - Not changing. (this is one of the routes for new 73H).
CGK - March 2010 (This was bought forward...donot know why)

The new 73H domestic will be on following (When they arrive)...

ADL-PER-ADL
CBR-PER-CBR
SYD-NOU-SYD

Cheers


User currently offlinejamie86 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

The replacement of the 767s on the tasman for 73H's is apparently a 2 month trial.


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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting airnewzealand (Reply 18):
Correct. These will be the next birds to get retired except OGT


With these schedule changes, new 738 coming on board, and assuming ZXA thru G are still on lease (were delivered new to BA 1990 thru 1992), I am pondering the following:
1. How many new 738 will QF receive this year?
2. What is the schedule of 767 retirement this year (if any), and which ac will go first (would expect OGB and E thru H)?
3. If the ZX range are on lease, when are the leases due to expire? because as of now they are 19-20 yrs old as are OGF thru H.
Can any of the "insiders" assist with some thoughts on the above please.



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3078 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

I'm confused. The JFK flight operates JFK-LAX-AKL and not SYD???!


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User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3051 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 20):
1. How many new 738 will QF receive this year?

None. But they will get 6 or 8, can't remember which, between Jan and June 2011. That's when the next batch are due.

Quoting TN486 (Reply 20):
What is the schedule of 767 retirement this year (if any), and which ac will go first (would expect OGB and E thru H)?

I thought they were only going to retire 2 both of which have already left the fleet?

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 17):
I understand they swapped a domestic 737 with the 767 flying the Tasman - so the 767 is still flying albeit domestically.

Qantas seems to be making a big push in the Domestic market in the 2009/2010 financial year;

- 2 new A330-200's configured for Domestic (both delivered);
- New Port Lincoln - Adelaide Qantaslink service;
- 7 new PER-KTA weekly services;
- 2 new PER-Paraburdoo weekly services;
- 2 new PER-Port Hedland weekly services;
- 3 new weekly CBR-DRW services;
- 5 new weekly services on each of SYD - Armidale, Port Macquarie, Coffs Harbour and Tamworth;
- Adelaide-Melbourne - additional 3 per week;
- Brisbane-Sydney - additional 6 per week;
- Brisbane-Townsville - additional 3 per week;
- Melbourne-Perth - additional 1 per week;
- Sydney-Ayers Rock - additional 1 per week;
- 4 new weekly ADL-BNE services;

Adding on the new services above and it's quite a substantial increase.

On the other side not a single new QF mainline international route and no announcement of restoration of dropped International routes.


User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 21):
I'm confused. The JFK flight operates JFK-LAX-AKL and not SYD???!

It was suggested up post that an A330 will do the JFK- LAX leg of the JFK-LAX-SYD QF108 flight. So the A330 will fly JFK-LAX-AKL. The LAX-SYD leg of QF108 will be a 747


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5238 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 20):
2. What is the schedule of 767 retirement this year (if any), and which ac will go first (would expect OGB and E thru H)?

OGA has gone
OGB leaves in a few weeks apparently.
OGC left 23 FEB
OGD has gone


25 JQFlightie : Ive noticed that something a little different.. 4 extra services a week on QLink.. MEL-ADL QF2067 Tuesday and Wednesday DH8 operated by QantasLink - E
26 TN486 : Thanks for the B advice mate, yep I was aware of A, C and D status. When the next lot depart, I was musing whether it woud be E thru H, or possible,
27 ditzyboy : Yes, aircraft and pilot rotation. There is a cabin crew base in Adelaide.
28 vhqpa : I've heard 2014 if true i'd expect them to leave the fleet around then. QF also has quite a few "middle aged" 763's with OGP onwards delivered from 1
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